Adebayor chant, just plain wrong! yeah, the threads still going
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LSUY
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I'm sure he was a helmsman on the Enterprise. I doubt Captain Kirk would have allowed an elephant on board. :wink:
Houdini
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AYE Capn' we cannae go any fastah, weeeerrree up tah the rafters in Whores and Elephants!
Good one Teemu, i read somewhere that he was named after the place, no doubt there are some Trekkies on here to put me straight on that!
Bonjour
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Could well be. Maybe that's the real insult, suggesting his dad does woman's work.
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I hope none of you join in the "Stand up if you hate arsenal" chant as to hate anyone in this day an age is offensive.
To say you hate something or someone that you don't actually know is not reasonable or acceptable.
May I suggest that in future all singing at football is stopped. The best way to show Appreciation and support is by clapping. The louder you clap the more support you give your team.
To say you hate something or someone that you don't actually know is not reasonable or acceptable.
May I suggest that in future all singing at football is stopped. The best way to show Appreciation and support is by clapping. The louder you clap the more support you give your team.
Houdini
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Sexist.
justfookinhitit
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Just out of curiosity, how many people on this thread that think the Adebayor song is funny also believe that referring to YP Lee as "Ping Pong" is out of order ???? Seems to me both songs fit into the same category.
I'd rather sing pro-spurs songs than songs focusing on players from other clubs. The "Stand up if you hate Arsenal" song does my head in - I'd much rather be singing at the top of my lungs "Stand up if you love Tottenham."
I'd rather sing pro-spurs songs than songs focusing on players from other clubs. The "Stand up if you hate Arsenal" song does my head in - I'd much rather be singing at the top of my lungs "Stand up if you love Tottenham."
Chatterbox1169
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I've read the whole of this thread over a few days before commenting. When I first heard it at Man U, it really stuck in my head and never thought for a second that people would react like this. I'm not saving it's not racist, but not saying it is! Am amazed at the reaction.
Surely the point of the song is to insult a rival player. What makes it different from all the other insulting songs that are sung at football?
To Wayne Rooney: about sleeping with grannies.
Wenger: many, many insulting chants/songs.
Mark Vaduka (spelling?): fat Aussie wanker
Campbell: About being gay and having HIV.
Southend: Wheels on your house etc?
Newcastle: Town full of slappers
Scoucers: No jobs
All chants, by all clubs, are sung to annoy the oposition - end of! This insulting song happens to fall into that 'is it racist because the person it's being sung about is black' category?
Someone earlier talked about Wayne Rooney only needing a tyre to be happy. This insults him by implying that he's a monkey. But becasue he's white....no problem at all.
I'm not saying I agree with the song, and not saying I'm don't, I just worry about everything being said/sung nowadays being over-analysed and blown into something it was't intended to be!
Surely the point of the song is to insult a rival player. What makes it different from all the other insulting songs that are sung at football?
To Wayne Rooney: about sleeping with grannies.
Wenger: many, many insulting chants/songs.
Mark Vaduka (spelling?): fat Aussie wanker
Campbell: About being gay and having HIV.
Southend: Wheels on your house etc?
Newcastle: Town full of slappers
Scoucers: No jobs
All chants, by all clubs, are sung to annoy the oposition - end of! This insulting song happens to fall into that 'is it racist because the person it's being sung about is black' category?
Someone earlier talked about Wayne Rooney only needing a tyre to be happy. This insults him by implying that he's a monkey. But becasue he's white....no problem at all.
I'm not saying I agree with the song, and not saying I'm don't, I just worry about everything being said/sung nowadays being over-analysed and blown into something it was't intended to be!
cozzo
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What exactly are you trying to say...lol. There are many songs taunting black players that are not based on race. I think its unfair to suggest otherwise. So are you saying that racism is acceptable in some situations (like to wind up the opposition)?.
Houdini
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I was repeating what i had heard, (Last night) on a show called "Mock the Week", Colleen Goes out and spends loads of his money but we all know that all he needs to keep himself (Rooney)happy is a tyre on a rope, This was told by a Scot!
So how can this be acceptable for Rooney but not for anyone who has a different color skin, its bollocks!
BTW, my impression of Rooney and the tyre was one of him being retarded and childlike, as in kids playing on a rope and tyre like we did when we were kids, so it goes to show what different interpretations we all have of the same comment!
(I laughed like a drain when i heard it)!:rofl:
Bromavinci
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this is still going on?
guess that kind of shows how contentious an issue race actually is...and in my opinion also shows that if so many people think so differently and given the 'racism out' campaigns we should agree to disagree and move on - the song should not be sung PERIOD - it flies too close to the line and we run the risk of getting the club into trouble...
guess that kind of shows how contentious an issue race actually is...and in my opinion also shows that if so many people think so differently and given the 'racism out' campaigns we should agree to disagree and move on - the song should not be sung PERIOD - it flies too close to the line and we run the risk of getting the club into trouble...
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I think it's the collateral damage some songs or comments cause that's also the issue.
As with a smart bomb which targets the terrorist den but takes out the whole block, it's the innocent victims which cause the outrage.
In this case the target is an Arsenal player, the unintended victims are all the supporters (both ours and theirs) made to feel shit by racist under-tones. Like I said elsewhere, it's the young kid of african background who knows all the songs and belts them out every week who suddenly finds he has to sit down and unaccountably feels his face going red. The dad with his boys all decked out in our colours who's just glad they don't know what it means, but starts to wonder whether they really are part of the wider family. All that kind of hidden stuff in a crowd as large as ours, which easily goes unnoticed but nonetheless exists.
Racism can't be justified even directed at an Arsenal player, but the vast majority doing the singing don't think of it as racist anyway, but that doesn't stop it being received that way, or indeed from being racist.
And I know it's a football ground and every kid who goes will have to put up with the dickhead sitting behind him shouting outrageous stuff and I'm not talking about swearing either, or insults or small sections acting out of order, none of which is right but it's a fact I mean entire swathes belting out a song with specifically racist undertones. I mean the kind of thing we saw at Upton Park last year in that YouTube happening at WHL. And that's what's wrong.
lennon321g
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Just stop singing the shit song. Fuck sake. Don't give the media another stick to beat us with. I don't care if it's racist or not. It flies too close to the line as someone said.
Houdini
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Another thing, because someone does not see any racism in a comment, it cant make them, nor should they be labeled, as racist!
Far too many people are rushing to call others racist, when it simply isn't the case.
Are these the very same people who treated gays in the same way, and attack them because they do not conform to the beliefs and way of life that the persecutor seeks to impose on them, this is the worst kind of person!
Dictating as to what people should and should not do or think, is going to resolve nothing.
And i bet that most of you on here shouting racist have never suffered racism in your lives!
Far too many people are rushing to call others racist, when it simply isn't the case.
Are these the very same people who treated gays in the same way, and attack them because they do not conform to the beliefs and way of life that the persecutor seeks to impose on them, this is the worst kind of person!
Dictating as to what people should and should not do or think, is going to resolve nothing.
And i bet that most of you on here shouting racist have never suffered racism in your lives!
guiltyparty
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People are just saying the same things again and again, in different ways, to the point that it's becoming almost nonsensical. Most don't seem to actually be reading anyone's posts, or taking in anyone's opinions, or even trying to see something from someone else's point of view. It seems to be more fun to hit back against imagined grievances or for everyone to try and have the final word, when there is none. This thread is dead. It was a fun debate while it lasted, a couple of days ago, but it's time to put it out of its misery. When we have someone comparing people who condemn racism to gay-bashers, I think we've reached the end of the ridiculousness. Please say we have…
Rocksuperstar
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Right, who wants to help me drag this should-never-have-lived-should-now-be-dead threads off topic far enough to warrant it being close? :up:
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