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yankspurs

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Christ. You'd have to hope (if you're Forest) that it's just one of their media team who's lost it and gone rogue - because if not the club have straight up accused the officials of match fixing. That's not going to go unanswered.
This is what happens when clubs are allowed to appoint officials as employees of the club. The FA & PGMOL should have stepped in to stop them hiring Clattenberg in any capacity. They did not so here we are. They’ve gone from crying about decisions every week to this. A referee & club employee has resorted to accusing the PGMOL of match fixing because his club lost.
 

cwy21

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This is what happens when clubs are allowed to appoint officials as employees of the club. The FA & PGMOL should have stepped in to stop them hiring Clattenberg in any capacity. They did not so here we are. A referee & club employee accusing the PGMOL of match fixing because his club lost.

If Clats is using personal/inside info from his former co-workers then its really a bad look.
 

RuskyM

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Honestly I can't be the only one who's exhausted hearing about officials every weekend. How do people still have the energy?

Yeah, if it's stonewall like the Diaz thing then I get it but if Forest go down, it won't be because of officials - it'll be because they didn't follow the rules that they agreed to and because they've won two league games in 2024.
 
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PGMOL would have been incompetent to assign a ref who is an open Luton fan to this match. If Attwell has declared Luton fandom and they still assigned him then Webb has fucked up massively.


Attwell is a declared fan of Luton Town.

https://www.planetsport.com/soccer/...ier-league-referees-support-man-utd-liverpool

Still, PGMOL can't set a precedent by pulling a referee purely because his decisions might favour the team he supports, can they?

Well, no, they can't set that precedent because THEY'VE ALREADY SET IT.

Back in 2016.

When one Kevin Friend was set to referee Stoke against Tottenham.

Trouble was, Kev was a Leicester City fan.

And Leicester City and Spurs were battling it out for the league.

And they couldn't have a situation where it might appear that he was making a decision that benefited them.

So they took him off that game.

So, why, eight years later, they haven't done the same here, I don't know, but it's a bad look for PGMOL.
 

cwy21

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Attwell is a declared fan of Luton Town.

https://www.planetsport.com/soccer/...ier-league-referees-support-man-utd-liverpool

Still, PGMOL can't set a precedent by pulling a referee purely because his decisions might favour the team he supports, can they?

Well, no, they can't set that precedent because THEY'VE ALREADY SET IT.

Back in 2016.

When one Kevin Friend was set to referee Stoke against Tottenham.

Trouble was, Kev was a Leicester City fan.

And Leicester City and Spurs were battling it out for the league.

And they couldn't have a situation where it might appear that he was making a decision that benefited them.

So they took him off that game.

So, why, eight years later, they haven't done the same here, I don't know, but it's a bad look for PGMOL.

I just found that article. It's really poor from PGMOL. You have nothing to gain and everything to lose by assigning Attwell to this match. You could have used any other VAR.
 

yankspurs

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Honestly I can't be the only one who's exhausted hearing about officials every weekend. How do people still have the energy?

Yeah, if it's stonewall like the Diaz thing then I get it but if Forest go down, it won't be because of officials - it'll be because they didn't follow the rules that they agreed to and because they've won two league games in 2024.
Please let them go down & sue. It’s laughable. They’ve been pretty useless all year & were only on the verge of staying up because the 3 promoted sides are weak & don’t have the cash to make vast improvements to their sides. Blades are in huge financial trouble, Burnley’s owners are clowns with questionable finances themselves & Luton have been punching above their weight for a few years now. It’s their own damn fault they were stupid & rejected the same offer they accept 2 months later from a different club which would have seen them perfectly in line with the rules.
 

JSpurs1

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Blimey if NF really did raise concerns and they’ve let Atwell be VAR, that is appalling.
Howard Webb should’ve been cautious and put him on another game. It’s not even a full weekend!!
The last pen is as stonewall as you’ll see and it’s hard not to feel aggrieved.
100%. Their tweet is unprofessional but they were shocking errors. It’s going to take a club risking getting itself in serious trouble for anything meaningful to happen to VAR - either root and branch review of it and how it used or whether it continues to be used at all. Good for them. Money and jobs at stake.
 

yankspurs

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100%. Their tweet is unprofessional but they were shocking errors. It’s going to take a club risking getting itself in serious trouble for anything meaningful to happen to VAR - either root and branch review of it and how it used or whether it continues to be used at all. Good for them. Money and jobs at stake.
You really think anything is going to happen to VAR or officials? It’s been like 4 years now of things progressively getting far worse with absolutely nothing done. The PGMOL isn’t fit for purpose. At all. But they will be protected here & Forest will get some punishment for their tweet even if it does have truth to it. It isn’t VAR that’s the issue it’s the bone heads in the PGMOL. I’ve thought for a few years now they need to use officials from elsewhere as the VAR officials. They are allowing the refs to judge themselves. It’s ridiculous.
 
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