If you read Herc's post, it seems utterly bonkers to cast any judgement now.
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If you read Herc's post, it seems utterly bonkers to cast any judgement now.
Yiddo100
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What’s the reason for the 6 months before though ?
dudu
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What is the point of that conversion. It's based on nothing.
Saoirse
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Hugo has given the club exceptionally loyal service and still hasn't won anything.
KWP has barely played at any level, lost his chance at becoming a top-level player, and lost his spot in the England U21s, all while watching a season of inept performances by Trippier still without getting a chance.
Lucas scored a hattrick in a Champions League semi-final and still got dropped after flying practically his whole extended family to Madrid.
Rose battled against racism and depression, fought his way back to decent performances, then got publicly transfer-listed - only to be told to come back and play as if nothing had ever happened when nobody met our demands.
Several players including Dele, Kane etc signed new contracts 18-30 months ago after being promised investment and improvement, and instead saw nothing before this summer and huge decline on the pitch.
The Wall of Noise the whole squad was promised after the Wembley debacle hasn't materialised.
Half the team have been overplayed when not yet fit, leading to chronic and recurring injuries which in some cases have ruined careers, while the other half and especially youth players barely got a look-in no matter how bad performances were.
Poch isn't responsible for all of this - the atmosphere, for instance, is down to Levy. But he's responsible for much of it and the general feeling of decline and malaise around the club right now. You can see why there'd be widespread upset in the squad right now, and why some think it's too late for anything but a change at the top.
KWP has barely played at any level, lost his chance at becoming a top-level player, and lost his spot in the England U21s, all while watching a season of inept performances by Trippier still without getting a chance.
Lucas scored a hattrick in a Champions League semi-final and still got dropped after flying practically his whole extended family to Madrid.
Rose battled against racism and depression, fought his way back to decent performances, then got publicly transfer-listed - only to be told to come back and play as if nothing had ever happened when nobody met our demands.
Several players including Dele, Kane etc signed new contracts 18-30 months ago after being promised investment and improvement, and instead saw nothing before this summer and huge decline on the pitch.
The Wall of Noise the whole squad was promised after the Wembley debacle hasn't materialised.
Half the team have been overplayed when not yet fit, leading to chronic and recurring injuries which in some cases have ruined careers, while the other half and especially youth players barely got a look-in no matter how bad performances were.
Poch isn't responsible for all of this - the atmosphere, for instance, is down to Levy. But he's responsible for much of it and the general feeling of decline and malaise around the club right now. You can see why there'd be widespread upset in the squad right now, and why some think it's too late for anything but a change at the top.
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Irregardless of those ten facts, we lined up v Newcastle with eleven players on the pitch they would kill to have, who each and every one bar the unproven KWP would walk into every non top 6 side, and played the worst football imaginable, and there’s no real excuse, especially not lack of cohesion when you consider how long all those players have been playing together.
I retain faith that Pochettino can repair the situation and can still be the manager to make us great, but if by the 1/4 point of the season there’s no evidence of this then I won’t be overly resistant to change.
Coco-1101
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So if the reason given for this kneejerk reaction is that we are performing bad in this calendar year then why don't you look at the fact that Eriksen and Jan were playing for all that time. If the player downtools then its poch who has to leave? They get paid millions to play and give their all in all games not when they want. Jan is known for this type of behavior and doesn't surprise me. Get rid as he is already old instead of removing the best manager we have in quite sometime. I think poch is still 100% as he signed those players personally convincing them to come here. Just remove bad eggs and keep going.
Coco-1101
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How are you so sure that it wasn't Rose desire to leave?
Everlasting Seconds
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What is the point of that comment, it's based on nothing.
Ronwol196061
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There are scientific answers to both of those but what's the point of researching them
Coco-1101
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I think there is no flow in these comments.
Everlasting Seconds
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This was one of my main issues with Pochettino from before he signed, and it has never changed. During his time at Southampton, he was perceived at somebody who rotated the squad but facts show he didn't. Back then he played one core of few players all the time, and rotating a few positions a little bit. This has been repeated every season at Tottenham. At times, there has been no choice. But even when he has had a fit enough and good enough squad to rotate and rest players, he has not done so. And yes, as you are saying, we have a squad plagued with injuries.
Coco-1101
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I can't understand that some complains that he make changes too much and some says he doesn't rotate. He is damned whether he does or doesn't.
Everlasting Seconds
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Scientifically a team with as many wins as losses and a handful of draws in addition over time will finish more or less on or just above the middle.
Everlasting Seconds
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Some players play all the freaking time if they are capable of walking.
Saoirse
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True. Perhaps Rose wanted to leave, which doesn't exactly make the squad harmony any better, and they we failed to sell him...
Coco-1101
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Did we finished in the middle last season? ANd this one is just barely started unless you are oracle and know the future already.
Coco-1101
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So its poch fault and he should be sacked?
dudu
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It's based on your post.
You taken some stats, applied 0 context, made up a hypothetical league, and ranked us in said league based on us repeating form over a period of time that doesn't equate to how teams play football.
ValenciaYid
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From what i am told, Jan never causes any problems....
Coco-1101
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Then apart from CE and Aurier who else it can be?
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