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Albertbarich · May 4, 2023

Nick-TopSpursMan said:
Nagelsmann
Slot
De Zerbi
Alonso
Amorim
Kompany
Postecoglu
Enrique

There's the shortlist mentioned. Choose your fighter.

For me it's Nagelsmann, De Zerbi or Slot.

Just for fun my order of preference would be...

Nagelsmann
De Zerbi
Kompany
Postegcoglu
Slot
Alonso
Amorim
Enrique

Mr Pink · May 4, 2023

Does anyone really think Levy will change? Lol.

He won't.

The same problems will creep up again and again.

How many times do you need to watch the same movie....

13VanDerBale13 · May 4, 2023

Yep, this is going to take a whole while longer. Hopefully not as long as the Nuno appointment

Tucker · May 4, 2023

13VanDerBale13 said:
Yep, this is going to take a whole while longer. Hopefully not as long as the Nuno appointment

7-10 days.

thebenjamin · May 4, 2023

Tucker said:
7-10 days.

We've upgraded to 7-10 months

Russ1201 · May 4, 2023

Timberwolf said:
If we see a repeat of the shitshow summer of 2021 I honestly don't know what to say.

Sure some fans will still be happy with Levy's decisions whoever he employs even if it was Neil warnock

Timberwolf · May 4, 2023

brasil_spur said:
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His limitation is that he's not an effective wing back as he has no end product in the final 3rd. This is exactly why he'd be an excellent full back - he can defend, he has pace and serious stamina, he can make good breaking runs up and the pitch and can get forward when needed. Literally every thing being said about him this last season, especially during his purple patch, was that he'd be excellent in a back 4.

In a back 3/5 we will need to sign 2 x first team CBs - circa. £100-120m.
In a back 4 we will need to sign 1 x first team CB, 1 x rotation CB and potentially 1 x LB - circa. £100-120m.

The net spend in both cases is the same and frankly I think it will be easier to find a first choice CB and LB and rotation CB than a first team CCB and a first team LCB.

I mean I hope you're right - I thought Royal was OK in a back 4 under Nuno and obviously looked promising towards the end under Conte but I still think it's a stretch to call him 'excellent'. I wouldn't be remotely surprised if, with him as first choice RB, we're still getting groans weak after week at his limitations in the final third and technical ability, even if he's a good defender. I agree that he's a good squad option and seems to have the apetite to improve, though. Maybe one day he'll be excellent, but not yet.

I think we both just disagree on the spending thing - which is fine. I just see things differently to you and suspect Porro, Udogie, Perisic and Spence would be much less effective in a back 4, clogging up the squad and requiring extra expenditure. Don't think either of us are gonna change one another minds on that one.

jolsnogross · May 4, 2023

brasil_spur said:
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His limitation is that he's not an effective wing back as he has no end product in the final 3rd. This is exactly why he'd be an excellent full back - he can defend, he has pace and serious stamina, he can make good breaking runs up and the pitch and can get forward when needed. Literally every thing being said about him this last season, especially during his purple patch, was that he'd be excellent in a back 4.

In a back 3/5 we will need to sign 2 x first team CBs - circa. £100-120m.
In a back 4 we will need to sign 1 x first team CB, 1 x rotation CB and potentially 1 x LB - circa. £100-120m.

The net spend in both cases is the same and frankly I think it will be easier to find a first choice CB and LB and rotation CB than a first team CCB and a first team LCB.

All of this formation stuff, especially related to full back/wing back is such bullshit. The positions - full back or wing back - are not that different and you have to be able to defend and attack in both. Its fucking ridiculous that dogshit defending like not looking over your shoulder at the back post is somehow excusable for a "wing back". While not being able to cross your legs is somehow totally ok if your a "full back".

We need a manager that knows how he wants his team to play and a good sense that he can galvanise the team to buy in and play that way to a high level. Not someone who can get the most out of Porro or any other player because he's recently in the door.

Scot-Spur · May 4, 2023

Albertbarich said:
Just for fun my order of preference would be...

Nagelsmann
De Zerbi
Kompany
Postegcoglu
Slot
Alonso
Amorim
Enrique

P OKeefe kinda hinted Enrique wasn’t on the list! He has also previously mentioned he personally doesn’t think it will be Kompany.

Also said Alonso was a candidate and has stated JN is first choice.

Just passing on.

jurgen · May 4, 2023

Timberwolf said:
If we see a repeat of the shitshow summer of 2021 I honestly don't know what to say.

If it happens again despite hiring Munn then that’s also very worrying. Of course Levy will be involved in picking the manager, but we’d surely be hoping Munn would bring some clarity to the football side of things.

Hope Levy didn’t suffer from familiarity bias and hire someone exactly the same as him.

Timberwolf · May 4, 2023

jolsnogross said:
All of this formation stuff, especially related to full back/wing back is such bullshit. The positions - full back or wing back - are not that different and you have to be able to defend and attack in both. Its fucking ridiculous that dogshit defending like not looking over your shoulder at the back post is somehow excusable for a "wing back". While not being able to cross your legs is somehow totally ok if your a "full back".

We need a manager that knows how he wants his team to play and a good sense that he can galvanise the team to buy in and play that way to a high level. Not someone who can get the most out of Porro or any other player because he's recently in the door.

I think it really can matter when you're playing wingers converted into wingbacks as fullbacks...

I agree to an extent, though. De Zerbi has had great success playing the likes of Pascal Gross as a full-back so maybe the right manager can make it work regardless of the defensive limitations of certain players if they're coached right and the system works.

Albertbarich · May 4, 2023

Scot-Spur said:
P OKeefe kinda hinted Enrique wasn’t on the list! He has also previously mentioned he personally doesn’t think it will be Kompany.

Also said Alonso was a candidate and has stated JN is first choice.

Just passing on.

Didn't know whether to share it as I know the mods don't like Twitter but Ramon Vega who is now an agent I think said it wasn't true that we had approached Amorim.

Russ1201 · May 4, 2023

Ghost Hardware said:
Oh wow I’m like sooo surprised .

Why can’t we just commit to doing whatever it takes to get Nagelsmann.

Reason is money, that is what it boils down to with Levy 100% of the time.

Russ1201 · May 4, 2023

Impspur1 said:
I think there a number of outstanding candidates

And Levy will pick option F on his list.

easley91 · May 4, 2023

For me personally, although I have my own personal preference, I'm happy with the names being mentioned. Even when a new one gets added, I can see what we're going for.

brasil_spur · May 4, 2023

Timberwolf said:
I mean I hope you're right - I thought Royal was OK in a back 4 under Nuno and obviously looked promising towards the end under Conte but I still think it's a stretch to call him 'excellent'. I wouldn't be remotely surprised if, with him as first choice RB, we're still getting groans weak after week at his limitations in the final third and technical ability, even if he's a good defender. I agree that he's a good squad option and seems to have the apetite to improve, though. Maybe one day he'll be excellent, but not yet.

I think we both just disagree on the spending thing - which is fine. I just see things differently to you and suspect Porro, Udogie, Perisic and Spence would be much less effective in a back 4, clogging up the squad and requiring extra expenditure. Don't think either of us are gonna change one another minds on that one.

Yeh it's definitely a personal choice between back 3/5 and back 4 and there are pros and cons for both with the current set of players we have and the spending that's needed.

Again it's why getting the manager appointment right is so critical. Nagelsmann really is the stand out candidate from this perspective.

Russ1201 · May 4, 2023

THE SPURSBOY said:
JN and AS?

More likely TP and NW

Yantino · May 4, 2023

I'm reaching my own personal conclusion that i'm not really that fussed who it is.

I think getting the structure in place around whoever it is, is more important.

wiggo24 · May 4, 2023

Yiddo100 said:

Sounds less and less like we'll just be going all out for Nagelsmann. I just don't get it.

Yiddo1982 · May 4, 2023

Try not to get too wound-up when nothing tangible has been shared.

If we start hearing certain people are turning us down, then we can panic.

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