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I wish I had.I must have missed us appointing Mourinho and Conte then?
I wish I had.I must have missed us appointing Mourinho and Conte then?
Yeah I'm with you - more of a long term, get the most from what we have type of appointmentI'm coming round to managers like slot. I think he'll come without the expectation that we operate like Chelsea in the transfer market and could get us playing attacking football.
Could end up a poch-like appointment.
Yeah, I'd much rather have a manager like Slot fully bought in and excited to be our manager over Nagelsmann reluctantly coming here if he doesn't get any better offers.I'm coming round to managers like slot. I think he'll come without the expectation that we operate like Chelsea in the transfer market and could get us playing attacking football.
Could end up a poch-like appointment.
I'm coming round to managers like slot. I think he'll come without the expectation that we operate like Chelsea in the transfer market and could get us playing attacking football.
Could end up a poch-like appointment.
Mourinho definitely is, Conte not so much, just a really bad fitNeither of those were good appointments. Both were clearly washed up, past their best, and their dinosaur anti-football tactics were the proof…
you seem to have conveniently missed the worst new manager search ever, in between those two!I must have missed us appointing Mourinho and Conte then?
You say Levy couldn't get an elite manager, yet he got two of the biggest names of the modern game. Don't try and move the goalposts because you don't like him.Neither of those were good appointments. Both were clearly washed up, past their best, and their dinosaur anti-football tactics were the proof…
Not at all. I was responding to the point that Levy has caused us to lose out on decent managers, which isn't true.you seem to have conveniently missed the worst new manager search ever, in between those two!
So you don't think good managers turned us down during that pathetic search which resulted in Nuno? I think that's pretty naive.Not at all. I was responding to the point that Levy has caused us to lose out on decent managers, which isn't true.
You say that, but you’re blindly ignoring the evidenceYou probably think Levy hasn't caused us to miss out on transfers in or out as well, with his antics, which actually cost us in the long run. Or four years of naming rights. Or... nah, if you can't see it by now yo never will.
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Conte is far from washed up. He wasn't a great fit, and in hindsight a stupid appointment but I have no doubt he'll be back to winning somewhere else.Neither of those were good appointments. Both were clearly washed up, past their best, and their dinosaur anti-football tactics were the proof…
I'm coming round to managers like slot. I think he'll come without the expectation that we operate like Chelsea in the transfer market and could get us playing attacking football.
Could end up a poch-like appointment.
Have I missed something? He didn't in any way reference us did he?Enrique’s comments should set alarm bells ringing at the Club, he clearly doesn’t think we’re going to be competitive anytime soon and if he isn’t convinced then we may as well forget JN.
Shambles of a Club at the moment.
I do really think some people maybe forget the context in which we got him. We were absolutely washed with Nuno literally looking like he was about to cry on the touchline every game, and Conte was by far the best available manager at the time.Conte is far from washed up. He wasn't a great fit, and in hindsight a stupid appointment but I have no doubt he'll be back to winning somewhere else.
Levy soon won’t have Kane and 20 goals a season to paper over the cracks and his monumentally shit footballing decisions.Famous last words but we’re not ‘that’ bad, as you say we’ve been somewhat on a decline for years however we’re still 4th and we’ll be challenging CL spots this year. Whereas Everton will get relegated soon enough.
We also have the stadium which will allows us to continue spending and getting players in, being in London also helps a lot. Whereas Everton are in their situation because they can’t spend because ffp. We have a good core of players and add a couple in the summer and get the right manager and possibly DOF in and the situation could look massively different.
When you look at Conte's time at Chelsea, it's not that different, really. He hit the ground running (more or less) and fell off a cliff in the second season. We also got our (more or less) instant impact from him, which gave us CL. Had he been with us the whole season, we'd probably have been 10-15 points better off and not that far off City and Liverpool.I do really think some people maybe forget the context in which we got him. We were absolutely washed with Nuno literally looking like he was about to cry on the touchline every game, and Conte was by far the best available manager at the time.
We were 9th and made it to 4th. Absolutely this season has been a disappointment but *if* we get 4th and end up with Nagllesman or Slot then I really don't think it'll be looked back on as the disaster it's being made out to be. Albeit without great planing and a lot of luck
(Understand that if is doing quite a lot of heavy lifting at the moment but its still very possible)
One has to remember tho that we had Paratici at that point who Conte knew very well from his time at Juve. I know that supposedly it was Levy who pushed for him, at least according to recent reports, but I do wonder if he still would have come if Paratici wasn't here. I'm sure the the paycheque helped a lot but Conte probably felt more convinced by FP's presence considering the success those two and Moratta had at Juve.I do really think some people maybe forget the context in which we got him. We were absolutely washed with Nuno literally looking like he was about to cry on the touchline every game, and Conte was by far the best available manager at the time.
We were 9th and made it to 4th. Absolutely this season has been a disappointment but *if* we get 4th and end up with Nagllesman or Slot then I really don't think it'll be looked back on as the disaster it's being made out to be. Albeit without great planing and a lot of luck
(Understand that if is doing quite a lot of heavy lifting at the moment but its still very possible)