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Japhet · Jan 18, 2023

fishhhandaricecake said:
Was thinking the exact same mate!

Aside from Chelsea, City and possibly Real Madrid or Bayern and for a while Juve there aren’t many jobs any manager can walk into and just win because the squad is so stacked with quality pretty much any manager has a good chance of success, more often than not there needs to be a clearly defined plan/strategy or ‘project’ if you like that is built over a number of years with astute player recruitment to suit that vision.

Klopp at Lpool is an excellent example Arteta is showing at Arsenal it’s a great approach, it worked for us for a while with Poch being given good control to align players to his vision etc etc.

This is why the likes of Jose and so far Conte quick fix serial winners didn’t seem a good fit for a club like ours as our squad just isn’t good enough, we need coaches who want to work with and develop younger players etc.

Also Jose and Conte’s football for the majority of the time has been horrible to watch so that’s led to impatience and frustration from the fans which means less momentum is built up also.

If Conte does go the worst possible appointment in terms of not learning from our mistakes would be Tuchel.

Id rather Poch or any other project type manager who plays good football it just has to be the way unless/until we get serious owners with huge cash.

Tuchel could start an argument with himself. Wouldn't see him lasting 5 minutes with Levy.

YB123 · Jan 18, 2023

Pep could be at Chelsea and getting in another ex Chelsea manager would just seem proper weird.

And I agree with above, he will leave after a year.

A complete waste of time.

jurgen11 · Jan 18, 2023

Not another Chelsea reject pleeeease !!

$hoguN · Jan 18, 2023

Fuck off with this shit

Metalhead · Jan 18, 2023

KaribYid said:
Six months after getting us top 4 and our fans want Conte out.

Four months after getting us to a CL final (following 5 of some of the best years of our recent history) and our fans wanted Poch out. Quite a few wanted him out in his first season before the Villa/Kane FK game.

Our fan base isn't and will never have the patience for a full rebuild.

The patience will have to come from the board who will stick with the manager even if the fans want him out. They have to hire someone that they will truly commit to and believe in.

That's not the first time that this has been said but it can't be said often enough.

jurgen11 · Jan 18, 2023

Metalhead said:
That's not the first time that this has been said but it can't be said often enough.

Most fans want Conte to stay and be backed though surely?. Most fans also know this will not happen and he will leave / be sacked . Whats the harm of speculating who will be the next chump served up on a plate by the owners. But if Levy backs him , the discussions end ...

Trix · Jan 18, 2023

WhiteStripe said:
Agree. The indication as to whether ENIC and Levy are able to play with the big boys is how much they spend on transfers IN regardless of book balancing. Are we willing to spend big on the right player? Are we willing to go in quickly and go in hard for the game changer. Are we willing to take a risk? I think we on own the answer. Every other one of the big boys appear to be willing.

It's not just that. If two teams spend 100mil, one buy's one superstar player the other team buys 6 average players the net spend is the same, but one has massively improved their starting XI whilst the other has bought 6 squad players. Now if you need 6 squad players that's fine but we don't we are crying out for obvious upgrades.

Archibald-CPH · Jan 18, 2023

I would like to see some good attacking football. The Tottenham way. Fight for CL. As long as we don't have a prober investor or a longterm plan like Arsenal the likes of Arsenal, Newcastle, Liverpool, Chelsea and City will share the titles.

Dakes · Jan 18, 2023

Trix said:
It's not just that. If two teams spend 100mil, one buy's one superstar player the other team buys 6 average players the net spend is the same, but one has massively improved their starting XI whilst the other has bought 6 squad players. Now if you need 6 squad players that's fine but we don't we are crying out for obvious upgrades.

But the 6 average players might come good under the manager and their value will increase. Even with a hit rate of 50%, that would still do great for the books. Plus, superstars cost big wages and average players will see it as a privilege to be at Spurs, and the wages they get here will beat whatever they got previously. So the payoff potential is good. I mean, how much wages is your average 15m player going to demand?

Trix · Jan 18, 2023

Dakes said:
But the 6 average players might come good under the manager and their value will increase. Even with a hit rate of 50%, that would still do great for the books. Plus, superstars cost big wages and average players will see it as a privilege to be at Spurs, and the wages they get here will beat whatever they got previously. So the payoff potential is good. I mean, how much wages is your average 15m player going to demand?

That's one of Levy's buzz words right there, and you aren't going to get a 50% success rate you might end up with one first team player, and 5 players clogging the squad up that you can't sell. It's the very reason we reached the point we did and never pushed on, because to push on you need to buy better than you have, not repeat the process that took 3-4 years to get you to that position in the first place.

There is always a risk with any signing but if they don't look like they will be significant upgrades we should look elsewhere.

Dakes · Jan 18, 2023

Trix said:
That's one Levy's buzz words right there, and you aren't going to get a 50% success rate you might end up with one first team player and 5 players clogging the squad up.

There is always a risk with any signing but if they don't look like they will be significant upgrades we should look elsewhere.

Exactly Trix, I was doing Levynomics with my post. It's why we are where we are. I'm sure some would view my post in a positive light, but there's no way a club like ours should be operating like this. Maybe over a decade ago it made sense, but no way in the present.

Freddie · Jan 18, 2023

PLTuck said:
About 12 minutes from fans.

And I regret giving him that long.

Ghost Hardware · Jan 18, 2023

If we go for Tuchel, or even Poch for that matter, it will feel like we genuinely have zero idea how to scout managers. Both would be “safe” bets and i don’t think ether would be the answer. Tuchel especially i think would be a disaster. And that’s not that I don’t rate him, I think he’s a good manager. But not at all the right fit for this club imo.

Albertbarich · Jan 18, 2023

The fact they would even consider Tuchel tells you just how much they have no clue what they're doing.

He falls out with everyone.

Looking like it has legs though. Dan kilpatrick is now sharing the standard article and it has his name on.

Freddie · Jan 18, 2023

Albertbarich said:
The fact they would even consider Tuchel tells you just how much they have no clue what they're doing.

He falls out with everyone.

Looking like it has legs though. Dan kilpatrick is now sharing the standard article and it has his name on.

He won't get players to play winning football. That just leaves us with drab, sterile football without any kind of payoff. I don't get why anyone would want him. It'll be the same as now.

GutBucket · Jan 18, 2023

Albertbarich said:
The fact they would even consider Tuchel tells you just how much they have no clue what they're doing.

He falls out with everyone.

Looking like it has legs though. Dan kilpatrick is now sharing the standard article and it has his name on.

Trossard feels like Tuchel signing. His pressing is shit, has attitude problems (another Osvaldo situation for Poch plus the pressing thing), I can see it happening. It's hard to hire Poch back without admitting you fucked up, and apparently people in charge don't think they are doing anything wrong. Woudn't be the first time club makes a bargain signing that isn't a perfect fit for the coach, so who knows, maybe it's him.

jpascavitz · Jan 18, 2023

Ghost Hardware said:
If we go for Tuchel, or even Poch for that matter, it will feel like we genuinely have zero idea how to scout managers. Both would be “safe” bets and i don’t think ether would be the answer. Tuchel especially i think would be a disaster. And that’s not that I don’t rate him, I think he’s a good manager. But not at all the right fit for this club imo.

I keep seeing people on Twitter say he'll win us something and I although I rate him as a manager highly: 1. He would face the same limitations of Conte, Jose, and Poch who have won at other clubs 2. I'm more shocked he'd be interested after him seeing the limitations of other successful managers here.

Albertbarich · Jan 18, 2023

To be fair to Tuchel I remember seeing a few games when he took over at Chelsea.

He was using a 3 at the back and they were a great watch. I read that the entertainment didn't last though?

My concern is he falls out with every board so how the hell we he cope with ours!

H-SF · Jan 18, 2023

Tuchel is a better manager than Conte in 2023. His 5back at Chelsea was elite at sustaining pressure (via a high press) which is what we fail to do under Conte. He's a top 5 coach in the world. This reaction is amusing, we literally couldn't appoint a better manager. I have concerns about him in the transfer market but as far as tacticians go he is absolutely one of the best. Plus, just because he managed Chelsea doesn't mean he couldn't oversee a rebuild with us. And yes Enic blah blah but he's still the best possible coach we could appoint.

YB123 · Jan 18, 2023

Its got to the point where if Tuchel joined and he got more broken promises and fell out with Levy, he'd have nobody else to blame but himself

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