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wiggo24

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Potentially controversial but I’m not sure Richarlison is £40m’s worth of an upgrade on Bergwijn…

In terms of squad building it’s expensive for a fairly minor change imo
 

Wick3d

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Is there finally some movement? Woohoo, another signing soon. Its only been like 10 days since the last one. I was getting restless!
 

DodgyLasagne

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60 million seems so steep for him!
To be honest mate, a PL proven striker/winger who can guarantee a dozen goals and high quality attacking contributions will not come cheap.

Son or Kane go down holding their knee, we would immediately be up shit's creek without a paddle. Richarlison provides genuine quality insurance against that happening.

I'm all for it.
Potentially controversial but I’m not sure Richarlison is £40m’s worth of an upgrade on Bergwijn…

In terms of squad building it’s expensive for a fairly minor change imo
That's because you haven't seen him play as a center forward (something Bergwijn cannot do) yet.
 

synththfc

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Potentially controversial but I’m not sure Richarlison is £40m’s worth of an upgrade on Bergwijn…

In terms of squad building it’s expensive for a fairly minor change imo
Bergwijn has never scored more than 3 premier league goals for us in a season.

He went a full *calendar year* without a single goal in all competitions. For comparison, Lucas scored around 10 in that time.

I get he has some talent but at some point we need to really stop the Bergwijn love in. Richarlison scored more Premier League goals last season than Bergwijn has in his whole Spurs career.
 

SpartanSpur

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Jan 27, 2011
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Wow fair play

Was this the guy that said we’d agreed a deal all those weeks back? Or is he the super reliable journo on Brazilian/Portuguese transfers? I can’t remember

Yes I believe so. Looking positive for us and seems like Cheslea are starting to distance themselves from it.
 

Nerine

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Jan 27, 2011
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60 million seems so steep for him!

Doubt it will work out at 60 mil cash, all things being factored in.
There'll be some creative accounting on this deal, with obvs the possibilities of other deals (players) being weighted in certain ways to look better on everyone's books, I would think.
 

Aphex

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Potentially controversial but I’m not sure Richarlison is £40m’s worth of an upgrade on Bergwijn…

In terms of squad building it’s expensive for a fairly minor change imo

How is it a minor change? Richarlison is a much better player than Bergjwin. He has more goals last season than Berg has in his Spurs career.

I have to say the over rating Bergjwin gets from some Spurs fans to be quite fascinating. A guy with an appalling goal and assists record. I don't quite get what Bergjwin has done to get so much backing. btw Richarlisons end product surprised me. double figures in 3 of the last 4 seasons. 13 goals is impressive.

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Scot-Spur

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I have zero idea of the financials involved but would be shocked if 60m isn't the top end with plenty of add ons included.

I also don't feel if the quoted 60m is true that it's steep. The guy can play across three positions, providing us with the much needed backup striker option we have been crying out for as well as providing competition for Son & Kulu.

Bringing him in solves two problems in one, thus freeing up more money for other positions (mainly LCB).

I'm all for his signature. Conte apparently loves him and I genuinely feel he could explode under him.
I wasn’t meaning I’m against it, just at that fee seems high! I suppose it is the going rate and he is a good player that will suit us.
I’m also all for it if it is what Conte wants!
 

carpediem991

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Dont give a fck what we are paying. Knowing Levy I know it wont be a sum that sees us broke anytime soon, so what do we care if its 40/50/60m.
We should just be happy if we have another option upfront that has the ability to add goals and assists on a regular basis.
 

hughy

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Love how split people are over this transfer, I’m not against it especially if it’s what Conte wants!
I understand that it will split people's opinions because of his stats, but he is the exact type of player we need. I posted yesterday that stat-wise he is pretty much on par with Son at the same age. If you add in that Richarlison has 170+ PL games under his belt, can play anywhere across the front 3, and has the workrate of a fucking animal you can understand why it would be a £50m+ deal.

I honestly don't think we will regret this.
 

Timberwolf

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Jan 17, 2008
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Potentially controversial but I’m not sure Richarlison is £40m’s worth of an upgrade on Bergwijn…

In terms of squad building it’s expensive for a fairly minor change imo
I agree in terms of natural talent.

Problem is Bergwijn clearly isn't cut out for it at Spurs. He's had so many chances to impress and can't play to the level he's capable of in a Spurs shirt for whatever psychological reason.

If there's one thing Richarlison doesn't lack it's self belief and he's consistently done well for a worse team in the Prem. For that reason alone he's a big upgrade on Bergwijn while he also looks a much more natural fit to cover Kane up top as half his goals are headers.
 

Nerine

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In the event of a Kane injury, I think a front three of Son, Kulu and Richarlison would be a bloody nightmare to play against.

Richarlison also seems tough as old boots, so a good physical presence (to boot).
 

austinfh

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Obviously his versatility is an asset but still think we need another forward option. I’m not sure Kane/Son/Kulu/Richarlison/Lucas is enough. People have said about Perisic as a deputy in the wide forward positions which I suppose works but I still fancy a creative option like Raphinha or someone in that mould
 

SpartanSpur

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Dont give a fck what we are paying. Knowing Levy I know it wont be a sum that sees us broke anytime soon, so what do we care if its 40/50/60m.
We should just be happy if we have another option upfront that has the ability to add goals and assists on a regular basis.

It'll likely be on very favourable terms for us. Everton will want the headline figure as high as possible so they can declare it for FFP. That has no bearings on how the amount is actually paid. My guess is straight five year instalments and I imagine Winks will end up going there with a pumped up obligation fee to offset against from our perspective (which will be 1-2 years down the line for Everton's new owners to worry about).
 

freeeki

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Aug 5, 2008
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One of my favourite things about this (potential) signing, is that the small handful of people apparently against it, who swear he's worth £40m but not £50m, are still floundering around for an explanation of why he's not worth the price tag, a month after we were linked.

The pros of Richarlison are numerous.

The cons are that he goes to ground too easily while playing for Everton, but not while playing for Brazil, who are a little bit better than Everton.

Still can't believe I was dead set against this link and now he's top of my wish list. Amazing what can happen when you actually embrace new information.

Bring it on.
 

Aphex

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I agree in terms of natural talent.

Problem is Bergwijn clearly isn't cut out for it at Spurs. He's had so many chances to impress and can't play to the level he's capable of in a Spurs shirt for whatever psychological reason.

If there's one thing Richarlison doesn't lack it's self belief and he's consistently done well for a worse team in the Prem. For that reason alone he's a big upgrade on Bergwijn while he also looks a much more natural fit to cover Kane up top as half his goals are headers.


Yep. Richarlison's goal record is about 1 in 3 for a poorer team. Bergjwin's goal product has been much worse whilst playing in a much better side.

Kulu has come in and shown what is possible in this team, and Son and Kane manage to do it just fine. Berg has nooone else to blame but himself, he just hasn't scored anywhere near enough.
 
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