slartibartfast
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I think he shoves a piece of paper under his door. Bit like Mike Bassett.
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Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte
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dontcallme
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It wouldn't surprise me if there are a couple that are already out of his plans.
Rodon is very likely. I think he's decent but appears to be a slightly lower level than we require. If Lo Celso is not settling in then he'll be available, if not half a season more is likely.
Other than that I don't see us looking to sell anyone, possibly Sanchez if a good offer comes in.
Aay_Jay_Dee
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I agree to an extent but they haven’t really shifted any first teams players and replaced them is what I was getting at (bar Jota maybe).
Thought last season was a little taster of them dropping off but that literally seems to be because of VVD being injured.
spids
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We’ll, Thiago for Winaljdum was another first XI change. And Konate looks like being an upgrade on Matip. They also found proper backup / competition for Robertson. The changes Klopp has made have been very clever and kept everyone on top of their game. Mixture of experienced winners / world class players (like Thiago) with quality youth that has an affinity with the club.
Aphex
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I think people are jumping the gun a bit when they say Winks and Alli have turned it around. It was one game.
You can say Dier has turned it around who has been one of our best players this season even if he does still make a terrible mistake occasionally, but I’d be very surprised if Winks and Alli are not available for transfer.
Players need to leave to allow Conte to bring in reinforcements, if you look through the squad, the only obvious leavers are Rodon, Doherty, Winks, Alli and maybe Berg.
Everyone else seems to be getting a decent amount of minutes and Conte counts as back ups. In the summer it will be a different story and we may see the likes of Sanchez move on.
Tanganga looks to be a Davies back up at the moment, Sanchez is Romero’s.
Winks and Alli are obviously back ups at the moment but I think if Conte can bring in say a Kessie and another CM and a Vlahovic, then they will be surplus to requirements, possibly Berg will be too.
No way does Conte think this squad is good enough.
You can say Dier has turned it around who has been one of our best players this season even if he does still make a terrible mistake occasionally, but I’d be very surprised if Winks and Alli are not available for transfer.
Players need to leave to allow Conte to bring in reinforcements, if you look through the squad, the only obvious leavers are Rodon, Doherty, Winks, Alli and maybe Berg.
Everyone else seems to be getting a decent amount of minutes and Conte counts as back ups. In the summer it will be a different story and we may see the likes of Sanchez move on.
Tanganga looks to be a Davies back up at the moment, Sanchez is Romero’s.
Winks and Alli are obviously back ups at the moment but I think if Conte can bring in say a Kessie and another CM and a Vlahovic, then they will be surplus to requirements, possibly Berg will be too.
No way does Conte think this squad is good enough.
Japhet
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I think it's also quite a damning indictment of the players that they put in minimal effort under Nuno and seemingly had a collective sulk, but are now topping the stats under Conte. They seemed determined to prove that Nuno was no good by collectively shooting themselves in the foot.
Aphex
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Probably as he was so uninspiring. It’s no coincidence that the elite managers have something about them that gets players running through brick walls.
Guardiola, Klopp, Conte and Tuchel have it, the likes of Nuno just don’t have it.
Players are no different to fans, we all found Nuno dull and Conte inspiring and same with the players.
PLTuck
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Think NDombele is the only certainty to be up for sale but I cant see anyone offering more than about half what we paid for him. He came on vs West Ham and the first thing he did was give away a needless FK, and the second thing he did was lose possession by trying to be too flashy. The third thing he did was jog slowly back after losing possession. It looked to me like he hasn't bought in at all and would be happy taking the easy option of going to another league.
Rodon probably on his way but we won't get much for him.
Although I think we would probably like to improve on Winks and Dele and wouldnt be averse if a decent offer came in for either, we need to be wary of our HG requirements if we have hopes of being in the CL next season. They would need to be replaced with other english club homegrowns. Wniks to Newcastle and get Ward Prowse would be great business imo.
Rodon probably on his way but we won't get much for him.
Although I think we would probably like to improve on Winks and Dele and wouldnt be averse if a decent offer came in for either, we need to be wary of our HG requirements if we have hopes of being in the CL next season. They would need to be replaced with other english club homegrowns. Wniks to Newcastle and get Ward Prowse would be great business imo.
$hoguN
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This is a bit unfair tbh. We were tired and clearly under huge pressure when he came on. I’m not saying he showered himself in glory on anything but let’s be fair in our criticism.
PLTuck
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Fair enough. I accept I am biased as I don't like his attitude. Though if anyone can turn him around it's Conte. I'd actually like him given a chance again today. I want him to prove me wrong in more than 1 in 15 games.
Duke of Northumberland
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And yet it was Paratici’s choice, Levy had not wanted Nuno who was available for months before. He had delegated football decisions at that point to Paratici.
Fredo
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Agree mate if Dele and Winks are considered to have 'turned it around' and not available for transfer, then we would end up having a roster of 500 players.
So you get rid of two creative midfielders for two hard working ones?
Alli and winks need to go, people have forgotten them for some reason.
Literally. I still want them both gone, winks is simply not good enough and it will not change and alli too.
I don’t understand the raving over alli performance, still bombed two huge chances and cost us the win.
I agree. For all his talent I haven’t been impressed since he came in under conte. Clearly doesn’t care that much.
when he came in under nuno and Mourinho he was working very very hard yet I think he has been lazy under conte.
I love his talent but think we have to get rid as he on big wages which we cannot carry.
Lo celso is on 70k a week which is fine wages for a squad player and option. Just have to focus on getting him fit and deny him going to the next round of Argentina games as they’re already qualified.
tanguy would suit Italy, I wonder if we could offer him and money for barella who is the player I really want.
doctor stefan Freud
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Not completely. He refused to green light the Traore purchase. He’s definitely very much involved in decision making, irrespective of what noises we hear, and any decent leader of a club should have seen the bright red flags hanging full mast around Nuno and refused to hire him, and that’s even without the benefit of hindsight. Don’t get me wrong, Paratici should have known better too, but if Levy was prepared to intervene with the buying of a player, he should also have vetoed Nuno. It could be a very costly decision if we don’t get Champions League this year
rossdapep
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The importance is to keep the core largely the same.
Fergie would often keep them the same and maybe replace one of them every few years if he saw that their influence was waining. The players he'd often sell were those he could get great value on and have a key replacement lined up.
Scholes, Ferdinand, Vidic, Rooney, Neville, Giggs and co were too important to sell on and had a strong affinity to the club. I reckon Kane, Son, Lloris and Skipp (eventually) fit this mould for us. Only sell if they push for it and we get a good fee.
Van Nistelrooy, Beckham and a few others could be sold by Fergie cause they could become to disruptive or could just simply fetch a good fee for the next good player to be signed.
Conte should be allowed to assess the squad in the same vein. If he feels that players can be moved on in order to keep a healthy rotation, then we should back him.
Gb160
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I fully agree about Nuno, looking back it was a horrible decision to hire him, and if Levy wasn't involved in that he should've been.
What I dont get is the criticism for not getting Conte in the summer, maybe I've missed something but from what I've read we approached him, he turned us down, and just wasn't interested in coming then.
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