Harry Kane

Amo · Aug 3, 2021

spursfan77 said:
Although if he turns up to training today, which I very much doubt, we will know if they are wrong or not.

How would you know that? Which part of the article said he certainly isn't turning up for training on August 3rd 2021 under any circumstances and that this won't be subject to any u-turns based on everyone calling him a shite and him sorely regretting his dickheadishness.

I mean that won't happen but you know what I mean.

Teemu · Aug 3, 2021

stormfly said:
If he does get his move to City there will be a lot of adapting to do and a lot of time on the bench. He will not be the golden boy anymore, just another overpaid player that most will argue is not as good as their previous striker. Hope it’s worth it Harry.

He'll win a couple of guaranteed trophies, retire early when his ankles give up on him and be remembered with mild affection like Dzeko.

dontcallme · Aug 3, 2021

steve said:
If there was a gentleman's agreement that Kane could leave for a bid of £100m and Levy is now reneging on this agreement I don't blame Kane one bit.

The owners are the problem at this club, not Harry Kane.

You're blaming the board for a hypothetical you have made up?

Aphex · Aug 3, 2021

There is no way the club should give in to this behaviour. It's disgraceful.

Call his bluff, we don't need any transfer fee. Hopefully we sign Vlahovic, pair him up front with Son for the first few games, or just play Son up top.

Let Harry rot at home until the window closes and then he will realise he has to return otherwise his career is finished.

We cannot let ourselves we bullied into selling Kane to fucking Man City on the cheap. Fuck them!

LSUY · Aug 3, 2021

King of the Lane said:
All this just confirms to me that 99.9% of footballers do not love or see their clubs the same way us fans do. We like to think they have the same love as we do but they just dont.

It's almost as if people who play football for a living view football as a job rather than a hobby.

GMI · Aug 3, 2021

H-SF said:
If Grealish chooses

doctor stefan Freud said:
Kane’s behaviour over the last couple of months has escalated from concerning to reprehensible. I think the majority of us could understand his frustration with how things have panned out in the last two seasons, and that coupled with his ambition we might expect a desire to move to a so called bigger club.

However, his behaviour yesterday was indefensible. As many have already pointed out, no-one forced him to sign a six year contract worth 60 million pounds. He’s not being held in financial penury, not is he being exploited by his employers. He’s cultivated an image of the consummate professional, a study of how dedication, hard work and loyalty to yourself and the football club you represent (and allegedly love) elevates you beyond your limitations. Now that has been shattered. And at what price?

We’ve been here before. With Berbatov, with Bale. Modric too. But the obvious parallel is ultimately with Campbell. A player brought through the ranks, one who had, albeit briefly, talismanic qualities, an excellent international reputation, but one who also sold out his principles for greater success. Campbell may have committed the ultimate footballing sin, jumping ship to bitter rivals Arsenal, but Kane is just as bad in the sense he’s had more opportunities than Campbell ever had, to win things with us. The two league runs, the numerous semifinals, the Champions League final against a disjointed, cautious Liverpool, who were actually there for the taking. And he’s been financially rewarded beyond anything any of us on here will ever collectively manage.

Unfortunately, what Kane is doing here isn’t unique but it is indefensible. And it’s greedy. This isn’t just about trophies. Why wreck your reputation in such a spectacularly selfish and brutal way, in such an inglorious manner for the sake of a title or a cup? This is about money. This is about the reported 400,000 thousand pound a week contract awaiting him when he gets his move. No one causes this much chaos and animosity for a few medals; any glory from that quickly fades in the tarnished hue of silverware. No, this is much more about greed. About making even more money, which is fine in itself- that’s anyone’s prerogative. But let’s not kid ourselves- Kane isn’t loyal to Tottenham. He’s not really a fan in the way we’d like him to be. His loyalty is ultimately to himself and those he loves. Why he can’t be both is the real tragedy here, but that’s what greed does to people

I agree with the first three parts of your response but I'm not sure his prime motivation for the move is money to be fair. I do think he his driven by success and he wants the trophies. He is misguided because he has probably underestimated the impact on his legacy/reputation but I think his motivation is playing for the best team and achieving the most success in the second part of his career.

Ashley1974 · Aug 3, 2021

My solution would be to take £100m and Laporte, then Kane, Man C and Spurs can all claim the win.

Spurs could say the value of the deal is £160m, Kane gets his move, Man C get their man.

I know there were rumours of £140m and Laporte yesterday, but I think that is fanciful to say the least.

Why this really suits us, is that we need a class LCB who has premiership experience to play alongside Romero. Would be amazing and Spurs get to move on quickly to continue the rebuild.

Dougal · Aug 3, 2021

Marty said:
The club needed a bigger stadium to have the best possible chance of competing at the top level on a regular basis. We can't use Leicester as an example of anything, they've been bankrolled and breached FFP to even get in the top flight.

Look, Levy has made loads of mistakes and especially in the last three years, I will not defend him to the hilt but in his mind the logical scenario was "get a world class stadium, then use the income to build a world class team". Poch overachieved way ahead of schedule and Levy failed to adapt his own mindset. The decline in the last three years is entirely on him, but I understand his initial reasoning.

But this isn't the ENIC thread so I'll leave this discussion.

Everything is ENIC. A properly run football club and a properly run business are two different things here. We had begun to compete at the top level because the football side was working. But the investment went into the stadium. And now Kane’s the ****. How many times do we have to go through the same thing and then dismiss the facts because they must be a different conversation. So tiring.

KingNick · Aug 3, 2021

Dougal said:
Which bit is truly wrong? The real lunacy is people thinking Kane turns from being the perfect professional into striking contract rebel bastard in a short space of time.

He's always been that rebel bastard but now is the first time he has shown his true colours.

sundanceyid10 · Aug 3, 2021

Teemu said:
He'll win a couple of guaranteed trophies, retire early when his ankles give up on him and be remembered with mild affection like Dzeko.

‘Guaranteed’ sums it up, that’s not a sport, it is against the very definition of sport and a competition. Unless we are talking chequebooks, which if we are call it what it is, trophies bought by the morally bankrupt.

0-Tibsy-0 · Aug 3, 2021

I’m actually gutted.

The one bonafide legend and local hero that we have had for a long time. The ‘one of our own’ story and the apparent ‘love’ for the club. The Roy of the rovers narrative.

It was one of the few things that really kept me connected and gave me some faith that the essence football was still maintained in some places rather then just being a commercial enterprise with oil money winning the race.

He’s squandered all the good feeling and disrespected everything and everybody connected with Tottenham Hotspur.

Gutted. I wanted to be singing ‘he’s one of our own’ when he was 60 and visiting the stadium at half time and telling my grandkids about this throwback of a player with quality, and loyalty and morals.

Pissed it away to win a trophy at a team that is antithesis of the dream of playing for your local club and a team that will win that trophy whether he was there or not. Special.

Naive bollocks from me? Probably yes. But it always hurts when you realise that no one really cares about the game or the club in the same way as the fans.

Dougal · Aug 3, 2021

KingNick said:
He's always been that rebel bastard but now is the first time he has shown his true colours.

I honestly don’t know if you’re joking anymore.

sausage · Aug 3, 2021

Dougal said:
Which bit is truly wrong? The real lunacy is people thinking Kane turns from being the perfect professional into striking contract rebel bastard in a short space of time.

They're not mutually exclusive.

Kane's professional attitude and ability has always, if you look back at it, been a very self-centred thing. It just so happens that, mostly, what has been best for him has been great for us.

What we're potentially seeing is purely the cracks inbetween the facade of that. The penny dropping. Harry will do what's best for him, and in the current scenario, it isn't necessarily what's best for us. Plus ça change.

Stoof · Aug 3, 2021

Dougal said:
Which bit is truly wrong? The real lunacy is people thinking Kane turns from being the perfect professional into striking contract rebel bastard in a short space of time.

Maybe we were blind to how Harry Kane FC he was all along. There's a reason every single other fanbase can't stand him (and that's not just because he scored against them). Harry Claim etc. Maybe we forgave him all that because he's been truly an amazing player for us, and we just assumed he loved the club that he's been with forever and wanted to literally Greaves himself into our history.

Maybe if we look back on his time with us without the Spurs tints, we might see some stuff we were deliberately blind to.

If he's not fit for a game for City, he doesn't get to walk into the team. If he has an off game or doesn't score for an entire month, their fans will demand blood. We're like "it's Harry, of course he'll be OK".

The "Gentleman's Agreement" stuff is also a load of bollocks. You can say there was one, even when there wasn't - no-one can prove it. The same for Bale and Modric.

Also, I expect the agreement was, if there's a decent fee we'll let you go. There's not even been a bid yet has there?

Dougal · Aug 3, 2021

sausage said:
They're not mutually exclusive.

Kane's professional attitude and ability has always, if you look back at it, been a very self-centred thing. It just so happens that, mostly, what has been best for him has been great for us.

What we're potentially seeing is purely the cracks inbetween the facade of that. The penny dropping. Harry will do what's best for him, and in the current scenario, it isn't necessarily what's best for us. Plus ça change.

And why aren’t we the best thing for Kane?

Maxtremist · Aug 3, 2021

sundanceyid10 said:
‘Guaranteed’ sums it up, that’s not a sport, it is against the very definition of sport and a competition. Unless we are talking chequebooks, which if we are call it what is is, trophies bought by the morally bankrupt.

I mean it's still a sport, they've still gotta win. For as good and doped as city are and have been... they've not won the CL yet and haven't won every PL season so there's still something to do.

But yes, they'd very much be stacking the deck massively in their favour to give them the upmost chance and making it an imbalanced competition. Still a sport and competition cause anyone can win on any given day... but if City get Kane and Grealish they're more likely to win most days

Gilzeanking · Aug 3, 2021

Wadec said:
I know this is what he wants but when does him being part of the squad become untenable?

How can he come into the squad now? Surely both Nuno and the Squad are feeling so let down by him. If he doesn't get his move, how do we integrate him into the team?

I honestly think at this point we have to sell him, but for our price.

Yes , at what point does him being part of the squad become untenable ? Looking at all this from a completely different angle ..could it be that the Kane brothers are playing a shrewd game ...the opposite of the chuckle brothers they're painted ?

In this scenario they know not showing for training will cause huge upset to fans and players . In disgust people start saying..'Just get rid of the **** ' which is what they want ...Then the idea of Kane walking on to the home pitch in spurs colours to a universal avalanche of boos just starts to become more and more unthinkable ... and the idea of this pariah staying at Spurs becomes 'untenable'.......Levy's/Paratici's plans for the team go up in smoke and the bald one just has to grab that 100 mill or we'll have no CF next season .

So in this speculation, a cold calculation has been made : the Kane's are jettisoning his 'reputation' or 'legacy' in return for mad wages and trophies .
Wonder how it'll all end .

sundanceyid10 · Aug 3, 2021

Maxtremist said:
I mean it's still a sport, they've still gotta win. For as good and doped as city are and have been... they've not won the CL yet and haven't won every PL season so there's still something to do.

But yes, they'd very much be stacking the deck massively in their favour to give them the upmost chance and making it an imbalanced competition. Still a sport and competition cause anyone can win on any given day... but if City get Kane and Grealish they're more likely to win most days

They are stacking the deck at even greater odds with every passing season.

SpartanSpur · Aug 3, 2021

Dougal said:
Which bit is truly wrong? The real lunacy is people thinking Kane turns from being the perfect professional into striking contract rebel bastard in a short space of time.

Why would Kane agree to do this if City were bidding at a level acceptable to Levy? His reputation is taking a massive knock, and not just to Spurs fans. All Spurs fans are aware of his wish to leave after his unprofessional interview with Gary Neville before the end of the season.

I blame Levy for allowing us to slide so much in 3 years that he's desperate to leave but I refuse to believe Harry is being forced to do this.

We all knew Kane was driven and ambitious and is after the highest individual and team accolades. It seems that ambition dwarfs any affection he has for the club.

Levy wants to keep his top players, that's one thing I wouldn't hold against him. The Berbatov/Frazier Campbell debacle wouldn't have happened otherwise.

thelak · Aug 3, 2021

CockOnBall said:
I partly agree. I know levy should normally have every right to demand whatever fee he wants but I am uncomfortable - if true - of a gentleman’s agreement not being honoured. We might all laugh at players being naive enough to accept it but stunts like this is why clubs love screwing us over in negotiations.

levy will feel he is doing what’s best for spurs but should never have said 100m. He held the cards last year so why make a false promise?. It was too low and a situation we would have very likely be faced with given we were outsiders for CL football. It now makes sense why he desperately rolled the dice on Jose and then even more desperately sacked him with a few games remaining. Hoping for an Ole style immediate bounce which could have got us fourth.
Oddly it’s quite revealing that Kane didn’t factor winning a trophy as a contingency to stay. Just CL qualification. Says a lot about what players value nowadays

it’s 2021 though not 1921

who in their right mind in the age of water tight actual contracts with Daniel Levy on the other side would be happy with a Gentleman’s contract as security that he can leave

KirstyG said:
The guy is like a god-like figure to us and a legend of the lane, one of the best players in the world and defended by fans throughout his career, when he was overlooked and mocked etc.

His 'chat' with Neville, blatant ghosting of Spurs social media and now not turning up for training is a proper two fingers up and one heck of a way to tarnish your image and status.

Berbatov, Bale etc did this but they were never really 'one of our own' so doesn't hurt as much. The closest is Judas in some ways (although there are differences there in relation of going to our rivals).

It's pretty disappointing to be honest. He earns enough and happy to sign and take the pay, he shouldn't disrespect his team mates and fans.

Even IF he had to stay now he has truely blotted his copybook - what a stupid thing to do.

This isn't professional behaviour befitting an English captain either. Just looks petulant and distasteful. Grealish however is acting more professional and on paper, in the expectations you'd have of the hairband wearing playboy and the Roy-of-the-rovers England captain you wouldn't expect that!

At least Judas ran down his contract and played for us until the end of it rather than downing tools in the middle of it. Albeit pretending he was going to sign a new one and admittedly what happened next was horrible

Ultimately I understand him wanting to leave after the shambles of the last couple of years and no doubt Levy made promises that have not been kept but think he’s a total moron for signing a 6 year contract then

At the time I thought he was happy to be a one club man but if that wasn’t the case why sign a massive contract

I don’t get how not turning up at this stage helps him either. He’s played his cards too early and not clear if this is even what City have suggested he do

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