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shelfboy68

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That’s probably true, but I also feel this is why the board will act as necessary now. I don’t think they’re going to risk being hit in the pocket, which is the reality facing our board after about a decade of consistent improvement both on the pitch and on the spreadsheet.
The irony here is the stadium has been built to generate money but can cost them a fortune if we are not fairly successful say CL qualification.
 

sundanceyid10

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The timing thing really upset me but it might actually be a kick in the ass for Levy (nice one Harry) which gets wheels in motion for investing in a new project...

I get that it might be a kick in ass for Levy, I think there is some truth in that, for once it is a real crossroads moment. We have one of the best stadiums in the world. But the fan base is very fragmented now, the team is frankly appalling in terms of effort. The thing is fine he throws money at it say, but look at the signings we identify, Doherty poor, people won’t like this but Lo Celso, N’Dombele have been very very average, N’Dombele flashes some skill but he isnt someone to rely on or build around. There are so many signings like this Lamela bit of skill now and then, but largely injured or running round like a headless chicken, that’s before we get to other expensive signings Soldado absolutely awful, Paulinho awful, Sanchez error prone and looking like yet another expensive mistake. Sissoko is an absolute joke that he has made the number of appearances he has for this club. It is a very long list of very expensive players that range from dogshit to average. So even if it is a wake up call to Levy, it’s the same people making the decisions, The likelihood of the same mistakes being made are staggeringly high.
 

Harrier

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I’ve gone through the full roller coaster of emotions over this one.

Today I’m feeling quite angry and of the opinion that he’s hugely disrespected the Club he claims to love with the timing of the ‘leak’.

I want him to stay as it would be hugely damaging in both performance and reputation to sell him this summer, unless an absolutely phenomenal bid arrives that would enable the team to be improved throughout.

If he goes, I’m afraid I won’t be waving a teary farewell and wishing him all the best.

I’ll also have to rename my Boston Terrier from Harry Kane to Harry Potter! ?

I’m a Tottenham Hotspur fan, not a Harry Kane fan!
 
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I get that it might be a kick in ass for Levy, I think there is some truth in that, for once it is a real crossroads moment. We have one of the best stadiums in the world. But the fan base is very fragmented now, the team is frankly appalling in terms of effort. The thing is fine he throws money at it say, but look at the signings we identify, Doherty poor, people won’t like this but Lo Celso, N’Dombele have been very very average, N’Dombele flashes some skill but he isnt someone to rely on or build around. There are so many signings like this Lamela bit of skill now and then, but largely injured or running round like a headless chicken, that’s before we get to other expensive signings Soldado absolutely awful, Paulinho awful, Sanchez error prone and looking like yet another expensive mistake. Sissoko is an absolute joke that he has made the number of appearances he has for this club. It is a very long list of very expensive players that range from dogshit to average. So even if it is a wake up call to Levy, it’s the same people making the decisions, The likelihood of the same mistakes being made are staggeringly high.

Considering Doherty was clearing a Mourinho target, and Lo Celso/N'Dombele blatant Poch targets, then no.

The problem in fan-spheres is the phrase "back the manager" is used both proactively and retrospectively, but no one wants to accept the consequences of that.
 

spursfan77

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What a crock of shit… The way this is written is made to sound like Kane did the interview with Neville after SSN broke the ”story” that he wants to leave.

Im really trying hard not to click on it but I’m so weak!

The writer is a gooner too. Used to work at The Times.
 

stonebrow

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I’ve gone through the full roller coaster of emotions over this one.

Today I’m feeling quite angry and of the opinion that he’s hugely disrespected the Club he claims to love with the timing of the ‘leak’.

I want him to stay as it would be hugely damaging in both performance and reputation to sell him this summer, unless an absolutely phenomenal bid arrives that would enable the team to be improved throughout.

If he goes, I’m afraid I won’t be waving a teary farewell and wishing him all the best.

I’ll also have to rename my Boston Terrier from Harry Kane to Harry Potter! ?

I’m a Tottenham Hotspur fan, not a Harry Kane fan!
It could have been worse...it could have been your child that you had to rename!
 

punkisback

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I mean annoyed at the timing but agree with what he says about the management and transfers. We replace good players with inferior ones.
 

sundanceyid10

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Considering Doherty was clearing a Mourinho target, and Lo Celso/N'Dombele blatant Poch targets, then no.

The problem in fan-spheres is the phrase "back the manager" is used both proactively and retrospectively, but no one wants to accept the consequences of that.
it has nothing to do with fans though, the fans have absolutely nothing to do with player recruitment. When we spend big money we seem to buy average, I like anyone else would like this to change, but I like think before rushing out and throwing yet more money around I hope the club take a long hard look at improving the recruitment structure/ talent evaluation. Some people just say it’s bad luck you can’t ever known how good someone is going to be and that’s fair enough, but the in the big money signings we sure do get it wrong very very often, so if a mistake is made over and over it’s important to look at the root of a problem and just we have been unlucky or we run the risk of pissing more money up the wall and going even further backwards.
 

spursfan77

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Trouble is if we don't get back amongst it sooner rather than later that stadium will turn into a disaster if we are lurking mid table continually.

Yet it is also a good reason why we shouldn’t. The income from it lets us buy high quality players every summer.
 

dickieven

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I watched the interview with Gary Neville and there was nothing much in there other than he wants to see our commitment and be convinced we are serious about winning things. He is not saying he wants to leave, he is saying he doesn't want to have regrets. There is a difference. Harry is saying what everyone on here is saying. Levy get us a top manager and top players. We want to win.
 

Harrier

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The timing thing really upset me but it might actually be a kick in the ass for Levy (nice one Harry) which gets wheels in motion for investing in a new project...
Maybe but all the recent ‘pull your finger out and show some ambition’ across all platforms is a little misguided in my opinion as far as recent activity is concerned.

I think that this was exactly what Levy thought he was doing when he got Mourinho in.

I didn’t think it was a good fit for us from the start, but you can’t say he wasn’t showing ambition employing the most highly decorated manager on a massive pay check. As a fanbase we were crowing last summer that the manager had also been significantly backed in the transfer window.

Unfortunately several of the players and the manager appointment didn’t work out, but I don’t think we could claim Levy wasn’t showing ambition.

Rewind the clock and what should have happened is that Poch should have been backed with a couple of key signings in the windows we didn’t buy anyone. This would have enabled us to significantly kick on IMHO and we wouldn’t be in the sh*t state we are now.
 
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JCRD

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At the moment, yes. But all the top clubs have had shit phases. Remember we were in the CL final just two years ago. Villa, Everton and Leeds weren’t even in the Europa League. We are a big club despite our current travails.


We are a big club but not a successful one in recent times (two league cups in 30 years?) - but thats the point - Kane doesnt really want to wait for the rebuild because he already has waited for the rebuild. I see his side, I see our side.

We want to rebuild with him in it but realistically - will we win the league next year? I think we will but Ive said that every year for the last 30 years. He doesnt want just a league cup - he wants the PL and CL and realistically he will get some of that at Man City
 

spursfan77

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We don’t buy high quality though more often than not we buy average ones.

True but the stadium hasn’t been open a whole season with fans attending yet, never mind the non football events. So we don’t actually know it’s full potential financially yet.
 
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it has nothing to do with fans though, the fans have absolutely nothing to do with player recruitment. When we spend big money we seem to buy average, I like anyone else would like this to change, but I like think before rushing out and throwing yet more money around I hope the club take a long hard look at improving the recruitment structure/ talent evaluation. Some people just say it’s bad luck you can’t ever known how good someone is going to be and that’s fair enough, but the in the big money signings we sure do get it wrong very very often, so if a mistake is made over and over it’s important to look at the root of a problem and just we have been unlucky or we run the risk of pissing more money up the wall and going even further backwards.

Well it does when it's relentlessly smeared across most threads.

"Back the manager" in one thread, and "But we shouldn't have signed GLC, Doherty, NDombele (etc)" in another.

We need someone in charge of building a team to a particular requirement (a Monchi/Campos type) and a manager hired to suit the players. Kane will no doubt be getting pissed off at the idea of all these random players with no chemistry signed to play in a way that doesn't suit them. As we all are. But I hope we can scrap the "back the manager" phrase in other contexts/threads, as it's redundant and problematic.
 

thelak

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i'm immensely grateful that he's been the best player i've seen play for us over the past decade. i'm also fuming at how disrespectful he's being to the club he allegedly loves.

Seems like anyone called Harry feels they have to drop “truth bombs” at the moment
 

sundanceyid10

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True but the stadium hasn’t been open a whole season with fans attending yet, never mind the non football events. So we don’t actually know it’s full potential financially yet.
Does it really matter? I’m not having a go at you but the point is the amount of money you have available to spend is irrelevant if the club is poor at evaluating players and ending up spending money on average ones/shit ones which most of our recent signings fall into. Increased revenue will just mean even bigger expensive mistakes. A much better job has to be done on talent evaluation.
 

sundanceyid10

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Well it does when it's relentlessly smeared across most threads.

"Back the manager" in one thread, and "But we shouldn't have signed GLC, Doherty, NDombele (etc)" in another.

We need someone in charge of building a team to a particular requirement (a Monchi/Campos type) and a manager hired to suit the players. Kane will no doubt be getting pissed off at the idea of all these random players with no chemistry signed to play in a way that doesn't suit them. As we all are. But I hope we can scrap the "back the manager" phrase in other contexts/threads, as it's redundant and problematic.
The club are not reading fan forums when evaluating players deciding which players to sign.
 
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