Match Threads Spurs vs Palace - Match Thread - Day 26

Frozen_Waffles · Mar 7, 2021

UbeAstard said:
He has a valid point, Bale is 31 and Ronaldo at 35 would have none of it. Why is he having a pop when he has an opinion with good merit?

No it's a fucking stupid point, all players develop and have different injury problems throughout their career, Ibrahimovic is 40 and he is still going so why did lineker not play for another 10 years?

Age is not important, ndombele couldn't manage 90 minutes earlier on in the season and he is what, 23?

Different players, different circumstances.

Ronaldo is a freak, so is ibra. If it was the norm then people would sign 30 yo players for big money.

Stupid argument really.

dagraham · Mar 7, 2021

slartibartfast said:
Thats why I rarely watch pre match or post match shite. It's shite.

Agree. I’m more inclined to watch pre and post match on BT Sports with Jake Humphries, Rio and Jenas. It’s better than Sky.

The Monday Night Football chat is the only decent thing on Sky as far as punditry is concerned.

Delevision · Mar 7, 2021

TheVoiceofReason said:
Richards is a new pundit, he's nothing mindblowing yet but at least he tries to comment on the game, rather than pathetic nitpicking over sentences in the post match interviews. He deserves time to develop, where as Souness and Keane are bringing nothing.

Lol, he’s 32, you’d think he had more knowledge than just his favourite team and the biggest name players. Souness and Keane are paid to be negative on purpose anyway for social media clips so they’ll never get dropped

slartibartfast · Mar 7, 2021

UbeAstard said:
He has a valid point, Bale is 31 and Ronaldo at 35 would have none of it. Why is he having a pop when he has an opinion with good merit?

Because. in a game where 2 world class players scored 2 goals each for a 4.1 win, a throw away comment a player said post match is way down on the list of what they should be talking about.
Its not like he confessed to fkin the Queen mum is it!

VegasII · Mar 7, 2021

fuzzylogic said:
mans smoking a 20 deck in the big bath after the game. Souness should go back to what he was better at which was trying to be a bricky in the boys from the back stuff. Might go over the heads of a few younger people

bubble07 · Mar 7, 2021

dondo said:
Why are they having a pop at bale? 2 goals great performance? Pre scripted sky story shit with dumb pundits unable to adapt

Yep its all pre scripted. Of Bale played well then why didn't he do that before. Bale doesn't play well and he has no desire to play football anymore. Its either narrative

Souness and Keane they are just so miserable and even when they praise they do it in a negative way. It wears you down

JimmyG2 · Mar 7, 2021

Colonel George S Patton gave the half time talk this week.
''Nobody ever defended anything successfully, there is only attack and attack and attack some more''

Some trick as he died in 1945 but clearly his spirit lives on.
José is a late convert to his philosophy. Unless the boys just ignored him again

''As long as you attack them, they cannot find the time to attack you''.
Works for me. equalising just before half time was a bad move by Palace.
It gave us no option but to attack and we got to like it.

Indisguise · Mar 7, 2021

fuzzylogic said:
mans smoking a 20 deck in the big bath after the game. Souness should go back to what he was better at which was trying to be a bricky in the boys from the back stuff. Might go over the heads of a few younger people

VegasII said:
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We can only hope that the old f***er is saying "gizza job" soon.

dagraham · Mar 7, 2021

UbeAstard said:
He has a valid point, Bale is 31 and Ronaldo at 35 would have none of it. Why is he having a pop when he has an opinion with good merit?

Yeah this is the thing. There is definitely a valid point to be made on thinking it’s taken far too long for Bale to get up to speed and whether it can transfer to a whole season of being match fit and available.

It can be made in reasonable and balanced way though, rather than just a rant.

Shadydan · Mar 7, 2021

UbeAstard said:
He has a valid point, Bale is 31 and Ronaldo at 35 would have none of it. Why is he having a pop when he has an opinion with good merit?

It's a shite point, comparing him to Ronaldo when Ronaldo is an absolute freak, how many world class players are still playing at the top level today at his age, not many.

Also the timing is crap, why be negative and focus on a throwaway comment in an interview after the match when he's just scored 2 goals. It's as bad as people being negative towards the team and the manager on here after a win, no one wants to hear it.

Fuck off with this shit, that type of over analysis belongs in the bin.

bubble07 · Mar 7, 2021

dagraham said:
Yeah this is the thing. There is definitely a valid point to be made on thinking it’s taken far too long for Bale to get up to speed and whether it can transfer to a whole season of being match fit and available.

It can be made in reasonable and balanced way though, rather than just a rant.

Yep definitely a valid debate as to what it took Bale around 6 months to be in a position to play 60 minutes every 3 days but unless this is discussed with Bale and mourinho present then its just total speculation

Hoddle&Waddle · Mar 7, 2021

Really good performance from the lads tonight.

What a goal from Kane!!

Buzzing!

slartibartfast · Mar 7, 2021

rossdapep said:
He's proven for years now he is full of bitterness. His slaughtering of Pogba showed that.

Doesnt respect the modern footballer, can't accept football has moved on, and if they have they are wimps.

I was thinking about Keane after the Man U win today. What a complete fool he now looks with the shit he said about being in the trenches with those players. Probably believes his comments somehow helped them get where they now are and takes a bit of credit for it.
I cant stand him, in case you cant tell lol.

wrd · Mar 7, 2021

UbeAstard said:
He has a valid point, Bale is 31 and Ronaldo at 35 would have none of it. Why is he having a pop when he has an opinion with good merit?

The point has no merit because Bale was referring to the absolute ridiculous runs that he used to make when he was younger. Runs that Ronaldo never did, not now when he's 35, not when he was 31 or even 23. Bale was in a world of his own with the ridiculous lung busting runs he would make up and down the pitch and that was all he was saying. That he can't any longer make those inhumane runs he made in his early 20's that nobody else in world football could even come close to.

Sounness just got caught up in trying to take his frustration out on Bale because his team lost, he completely missed the point Bale was trying to make and made himself look like an absolute fool.

davidmatzdorf · Mar 7, 2021

Bale is not Souness. Bale is not Keane. Keane and Souness were combative and territorial midfielders. Bale is an explosive attacker. It beggars belief that Souness and Keane are too rebarbative and ignorant to grasp this point before their mouths fall open. You can play as a positional, tackling midfielder at 31 in a way that you cannot play when your job is to beat defences and score goals. If your job as an analyst is to make sense, this should be obvious. If your job is to be pointlessly "controversial", then you can just talk bollocks instead.

Bale has always been prone to injury and has always needed to manage his body, all through his career. At 31, he has learned to conserve his fitness. There is an argument that he waited too long, that he could have been helping the team much more in the middle third of the season. But that discounts the psychological/confidence factor. He played during that period, but he was hesitant and ineffective: he strolled through matches without taking the risks needed to score 6 goals and get 3 assists in 6 matches. The hesitancy is gone now. He has about 15 matches left to prove his worth and he's been doing pretty well in the past 6 matches.

rossdapep · Mar 7, 2021

slartibartfast said:
I was thinking about Keane after the Man U win today. What a complete fool he now looks with the shit he said about being in the trenches with those players. Probably believes his comments somehow helped them get where they now are and takes a bit of credit for it.
I cant stand him, in case you cant tell lol.

I don't mind him in doses like when he appeared with Neville on that show. It was a bit of humour and he relaxed a bit. Or when he lays into Arsenal as I do think he has a point with their attitude.

But when it comes to most other matters he's not worth listening too.

He was stopping short of saying Solskjaer wants sacking a few weeks ago then flipped it a week or two later saying they can be champions again.

gio747 · Mar 7, 2021

philll said:
You're wrong as well, then.

What a twat

Ashley1974 · Mar 7, 2021

blankom said:
disagree with the Sanchez part. He did better than just decent.

Fair enough. Is that why you gave me a WTF rating. Seems a bit strong considering we both agree he played well?!

Dave1976 · Mar 7, 2021

I'm, so pleased that others have just noticed what I did! I'm as angry as I'd be if we had lost! We win 4 - 1 and all the conversation is about Bale only being 31 and should be ripping up trees. Sorry, but Keane got shipped out of UTD at 33, because he became rubbish (and never had pace anyway). Graeme Souness got shipped out of Liverpool at 31 (?), and both feel they have the right to go to town on GB (and Micah Richards needs to call a bullying helpline). Good performance, lovely to see almost everyone going forward, enjoyed it thoroughly, but now I've almost forgotten that and become angry at Sky instead!

Ashley1974 · Mar 7, 2021

I didn’t watch the post match. As soon as the final whistle went, I switched over.

Sky can fuck off until they bring some insightful pundits in.

I did enjoy Coleman though.

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