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dondo
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I thought VAR would even the decisions out between the big clubs and the smaller clubs, it’s just made it more obvious that there is blatant biased
Seafordian Spurs
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Both the **** teams getting away with it this weekend. Can finish above them as long as injuriee don't derail us....
Mr Pink
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No lol. It's not coming back against Liverpool or City!
They were atrocious at the back. I'd be concerned if I was Lampard.
bradfordspur
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Painful memories!
Sep 29, 2001 Tottenham Hotspur 3-5 Manchester United
Richards (15'), Ziege (45'), Ferdinand (25')
FT(HT: 3-0)
Blanc (58'), Beckham (87'), Sebastian Veron (76'), van Nistelrooy (72'), Cole (46')
4 February 2004 FA Cup 4th Round
| Tottenham Hotspur | 3–4 | Manchester City |
|---|---|---|
| Report |
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Joey Barton was sent off at half time!
Painful memories!
Sep 29, 2001 Tottenham Hotspur 3-5 Manchester United
Richards (15'), Ziege (45'), Ferdinand (25')
FT(HT: 3-0)
Blanc (58'), Beckham (87'), Sebastian Veron (76'), van Nistelrooy (72'), Cole (46')
4 February 2004 FA Cup 4th Round
Tottenham Hotspur 3–4 Manchester City Report
- Distin
48'
- Bosvelt
69'- Wright-Phillips
80'- Macken
90'
Joey Barton was sent off at half time!
I was at that Shitty game - i didnt even know Man Shitty were a man down until I was driving back home
Wadec
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Same as the United result. Not concerned about Chelsea getting a point.
They are way off the pace, poor at the back and have a manager not ready for the job he is in.
Would be quite happy for Utd and Chavs to tick along for now scraping results, they aren't good enough and will eventually change managers. When they do they will be much more of a threat.
They are way off the pace, poor at the back and have a manager not ready for the job he is in.
Would be quite happy for Utd and Chavs to tick along for now scraping results, they aren't good enough and will eventually change managers. When they do they will be much more of a threat.
C0YS
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No it hasn't changed. Still applies if arm is in unnatural position, well if it were to be consistent with the norms.
There is also the question of if the goal was seen to come directly from the usage of the arm. Where handling regardless of intent will always disallow the goal, I tend to think in this case the rule doesn't apply as it wasn't the pass or shot directly leading to a goal. I do wonder if it was, say against Man utd, if the ruling would have been the same however.
Please. There's no consistency in these rulings whatsoever.
One rule for the big teams, another for the small teams. The FA can't afford to let the big teams drop too much.
C0YS
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I don't think either team will be particularly consistent. But, I also am not convinced we will be particularly better. Changing managers might help, but the reality is both squads are still very imbalanced and there is a deeper problem there. In Chelsea it's because they are in a transitional period, in Man Utd it's a lack of clear strategy from above, and it's been a problem ever since Ferguson left.
OK my bad, I still don't think it was handball. It was clearly in a natural position. Maupay today was clearly not in an unnatural position.
I don't think there is bias in all honesty. Perhaps if there are fans then you can be swayed slightly at first but think that decision for chelscum was fine.
Palace today however... Not for me.
homer hotspur
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Somewhat premature I think.
tony0379
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I was watching it in a pub in Cyprus and the electricity went off at 3-2, got home and checked ceefax. Couldn't believe itPainful memories!
Sep 29, 2001 Tottenham Hotspur 3-5 Manchester United
Richards (15'), Ziege (45'), Ferdinand (25')
FT(HT: 3-0)
Blanc (58'), Beckham (87'), Sebastian Veron (76'), van Nistelrooy (72'), Cole (46')
4 February 2004 FA Cup 4th Round
Tottenham Hotspur 3–4 Manchester City Report
- Distin
48'- Bosvelt
69'- Wright-Phillips
80'- Macken
90'
Joey Barton was sent off at half time!
C0YS
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I haven't seen the replay, but for clarity, natural position is hands close to your chest, that's it. In theory there is minimal interpretation in these rules.
This was created to give clarity to VAR regarding hand balls (which is why I hate the argument that 'the problem isn't VAR it's the handball rule' as if they were not inherently linked). Right now people are trying to take subjectivity out of the game and to be easier managed by VAR. Not only are they failing at that, but the game is and always will be inherently subjective, and that's why people continuously argue about these decisions all the time. The most important thing is consistency, strong consistency within the match itself and a looser consistency amongst all referees. It's okay for refs to have their own style, it makes the game interesting a varied, VAR is trying to make football more objective and this is not for the benefit of the game but as an attempt to protect referees.
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