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KingKay · Sep 14, 2020

shelfboy68 said:
The reality net is closing in on the ENIC fan's, they are finding it harder and harder to make excuses for the ineptitude that has unfolded.

I think it’s more a case of people can’t be bothered arguing or debating the issue anymore. People who are against Levy will wait for a few poor results and then pile in with the ‘I told you so’ bollocks. I can explain the progress we’ve made under ENIC until I’m blue in the face, but what’s the point if you’ve made your mind up? Brexit mk.2, round and round we go.

Clockspur · Sep 14, 2020

There is no doubt that the club has progressed massively under Enic, I remember what it was like before when we struggled to fill the Lane and would get embarrassed by all sorts of shite teams. European football was a pipe dream in those days and a player like Lucas was a dream signing.

The problem is Levy can’t see that he is now holding the club back. Some managers will take you so far and then a change is needed to progress further - we have the same but with the chairman who is obsessed over every bloody penny. The man knows the price of everything and the value of nothing. Its like an endless wank with no finish - sooner or later you are going to get bored.

McArchibald · Sep 14, 2020

KingKay said:
I think it’s more a case of people can’t be bothered arguing or debating the issue anymore. People who are against Levy will wait for a few poor results and then pile in with the ‘I told you so’ bollocks. I can explain the progress we’ve made under ENIC until I’m blue in the face, but what’s the point if you’ve made your mind up? Brexit mk.2, round and round we go.

What progress? We've won one League Cup in 19 years. Oh, and the club has been saddled with an unholy amount of debt...

DiVaio · Sep 14, 2020

McArchibald said:
What progress? We've won one League Cup in 19 years. Oh, and the club has been saddled with an unholy amount of debt...

There is a lot of things for football clubs to progress, not only trophies, you know?

Clockspur · Sep 14, 2020

DiVaio said:
There is a lot of things for football clubs to progress, not only trophies, you know?

Yeah but nothing that truly matters. The new stadium is great but I’d take the old stadium and a couple of domestic cups over that.

McArchibald · Sep 14, 2020

DiVaio said:
There is a lot of things for football clubs to progress, not only trophies, you know?

From a business point of view perhaps, but on-field success is what a proper football club is all about. We ceased being just that however when we were taken over by the ENglish Investment Company. Since then we're led to believe that success lies in bricks and mortar, asset growth and profitability.

I choose not to go along with that thinking.

piedpiper · Sep 14, 2020

rossdapep said:
Feeling a little apathetic about everything related to the club to be honest.

Tottenham Hotspur have to be the only club in world football who can bring you to the bring and fall away time and time again. At least when you are a bad team you just become numb to the pain.

I feel all of this feeling lands squarely at the feet of Levy and co.

I have no hope and faith left anymore. It's not just about yesterday's result, it's the continued insistence from them at the top that this is a club with ambition yet on the pitch showing nothing that reflects that mindset.

A board who are utterly delusional about our status and direction, refusing to see the issues that they've helped create.

The truly devastating prospect is that Levy is likely to be here for many more years, which means many more years trophyless and failing to learn from last mistakes.

I am for the first time in my life considering if it's worth supporting this/a football club any more. It's just so draining.....and for what?

Feel the same. Felt that way since Mourinho was appointed. We going backwards very fast. Enic mismanaged this squad and focused more on their vanity project.

I'd love for them to sell up and get far away from our club... We won't win anything anytime soon with them at the helm.

rossdapep · Sep 14, 2020

DiVaio said:
There is a lot of things for football clubs to progress, not only trophies, you know?

The stadium will be nothing but a cash cow to us if there's no heart and soul in it.

Obviously a club needs to progress and develop to stay in the game nowadays but if the spirit of the club is not there then it's all rather pointless isn't it?!

SirNiNyHotspur · Sep 14, 2020

KingKay said:
I think it’s more a case of people can’t be bothered arguing or debating the issue anymore. People who are against Levy will wait for a few poor results and then pile in with the ‘I told you so’ bollocks. I can explain the progress we’ve made under ENIC until I’m blue in the face, but what’s the point if you’ve made your mind up? Brexit mk.2, round and round we go.

No more bollocks that the usual DL JL bastard children book of million excuses about why we always fail. Personally have more of an issue with JL, think he’s pulling the strings and couldn’t give a fuck about Tottenham other than what check he cashes out at the end. But agree couldn’t be arsed debating anymore as it’s always someone else’s fault. Levy followers = Trump followers Love the guy that shafts you...

shelfboy68 · Sep 14, 2020

When you look at the stadium and training ground you do see a club that should and probably has to be in the top four regularly.
However the team that is on the pitch which we saw yesterday does not look like a team capable of mounting a challenge for anything, devoid of any ideas, tactical plan and or fitness.

Metalhead · Sep 14, 2020

DiVaio said:
There is a lot of things for football clubs to progress, not only trophies, you know?

Trophies should be the main one for a football fan. In any competitive sport, the ultimate outcome is a trophy.

Metalhead · Sep 14, 2020

shelfboy68 said:
When you look at the stadium and training ground you do see a club that should and probably has to be in the top four regularly.
However the team that is on the pitch which we saw yesterday does not look like a team capable of mounting a challenge for anything, devoid of any ideas, tactical plan and or fitness.

I think that we always look for one answer to the problem but I guess it's more convoluted than that.

Hoddle&Waddle · Sep 14, 2020

DFF said:
I knew what to expect of Levy, but I was unpleasantly surprised with what I saw of Hitchens in the documentary. He came across as a glorified Agent.

If the fans could vote he'd be out the door.

DiVaio · Sep 14, 2020

Metalhead said:
Trophies should be the main one for a football fan. In any competitive sport, the ultimate outcome is a trophy.

And we have now better squad with better manager so chances for trophies are higher

Metalhead · Sep 14, 2020

DiVaio said:
And we have now better squad with better manager so chances for trophies are higher

Let’s hope so - I want Jose to succeed.

jurgen · Sep 14, 2020

Not compared to 3 years ago

DiVaio · Sep 14, 2020

DiVaio said:
And we have now better squad with better manager so chances for trophies are higher

Seriously @[email protected], giving me for every not anti-Levy post negative ratings is just boring now :ROFLMAO:

Bubble44 · Sep 14, 2020

DiVaio said:
And we have now better squad with better manager so chances for trophies are higher

We do not have a better squad, in fact with regards to our squad we are well behind where we were 4/5 years ago.

DiVaio · Sep 14, 2020

Bubble44 said:
We do not have a better squad, in fact with regards to our squad we are well behind where we were 4/5 years ago.

I was talking about ENIC era, we have squad good enough to win trophies now and we also had 4 or 5 years ago.

Bubble44 · Sep 14, 2020

DiVaio said:
I was talking about ENIC era, we have squad good enough to win trophies now and we also had 4 or 5 years ago.

Taken ENIC too long to become competitive and now we are going back to what we were., for the majority of their tenure.

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