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Either respond or block me, I'm not having some child who dislikes ownership starting having a shitfit because his line of thought is just one of pure angst.Be gone next summer if things don’t improve
Either respond or block me, I'm not having some child who dislikes ownership starting having a shitfit because his line of thought is just one of pure angst.Be gone next summer if things don’t improve
Every owner would say no.If an investor gave ENIC 300m on the condition that every penny went on transfers in return for a 20% stake they would say no.
Thanks for these details mate. You appear to be really well informed. Are these figures in the public domain, or do you perhaps work for ENIC? And when you say you expect ENIC to stick around until they've maximised potential profit, how do you think that "capital appreciation" will be realised? Naming right? The completion of the 3rd phase of the NPD and sale of that housing? A better NFL deal? What are your thoughts?
Our fan base was firmly behind and defended Levy to the hilt when he self imposed a transfer ban on us for no reason other than we were too good. They’ll defend that man even if he bankrupts us.
Thanks for these details mate. You appear to be really well informed. Are these figures in the public domain, or do you perhaps work for ENIC? And when you say you expect ENIC to stick around until they've maximised potential profit, how do you think that "capital appreciation" will be realised? Naming right? The completion of the 3rd phase of the NPD and sale of that housing? A better NFL deal? What are your thoughts?
Kyle Walker says "hi"...
Sold by Levy for petty cash to strengthen a direct rival - and our football hasn't reached the same heights since.
If ever there was a shining example of Levy's avarice and callous disregard for sporting success, this is it. Case in point.
If an investor gave ENIC 300m on the condition that every penny went on transfers in return for a 20% stake they would say no.
Thanks for the replies, SLD. They were really informative. And as for your last sentence; most definitely, mate, I couldn't agree more!Forgot to reply to the second part of your post.
My feeling that ENIC likely still see further potential for significant growth in the value of the club isn't based on anything specific. It's more that the club (and the stadium) is still a long way from realising its potential. Whether Levy is the right man to help the club to achieve that potential is another matter altogether!
For a minute until Donna released a statement under Levy’s name and everyone was singing his fucking praises againNow you’re making things up. Everyone on here was absolutely livid we brought nobody in the summer of 2018.
For a minute until Donna released a statement under Levy’s name and everyone was singing his fucking praises again
Mate that's not exactly true! The usual cabal of ENIC shills and foam-at-the-mouth Levy Apologists were adamant that the summer 2018 transfer clusterfuck was completely unavoidable and certainly not their great leader's fault. You must be lucky enough to have Lighty on ignore, or else, never read one of his Missed-Transfer Excuses Extravaganza. It's blistering in its defiance and absurdity; like an old pisshead screaming at the moon. When it comes to failed transfers, The Cult Of Levy is Trump-like in its blind devotion to absolving their idol of even a sniff of perceived culpability, and rabid in their defence of the "Great Man" if you ever dare to criticise him. Check out some of the old posts, mate. The outrage and indignation is quite scary!Now you’re making things up. Everyone on here was absolutely livid we brought nobody in the summer of 2018.
It doesn't have to all be on Levy for him to shoulder a huge amount of the blame. I wrote about this in the Mourinho thread where we're having a similar debate, but Poch's supposed stubbornness that summer came as the result of years of frustration with our transfer dealings. He was repeatedly given bargain basement alternatives to the players he actually wanted. Njie, Janssen, Nkoudou, Aurier, Sissoko as a right winger, none of them were his top choices and none of them worked out.I see we're now all harping back to 2018 as all on Levy ...
I'm watching KWP play really well against City for Southampton ... The sun doesn't shine out of Pochs arsehole whether levy was a **** to him or not.It doesn't have to all be on Levy for him to shoulder a huge amount of the blame. I wrote about this in the Mourinho thread where we're having a similar debate, but Poch's supposed stubbornness that summer came as the result of years of frustration with our transfer dealings. He was repeatedly given bargain basement alternatives to the players he actually wanted. Njie, Janssen, Nkoudou, Aurier, Sissoko as a right winger, none of them were his top choices and none of them worked out.
We also can't forget that Levy fucked around on the Grealish deal that summer and Villa told us to do one after they'd been rescued. If Levy had just stumped up the 25m they were demanding in June 2018 it would have made a massive, massive difference over the past two seasons.
Had it not been for years of failed transfer dealings Poch never would have reached his breaking point. Levy bears blame for the fact that he was not able to work together with Poch to develop a list of legitimate, quality alternatives to the first choice targets in 2018 or in any summer leading up to it. Our scouts were piss poor for years, we had no coherent transfer strategy, and the relationship between Levy and his manager deteriorated completely. All of that has cost us massively, and Levy absolutely deserves a lot of blame for it even if the blame is not his alone.
I'm not saying Poch is blameless, and agree that his youth development in particular was a huge failing. But that doesn't mean we should ignore the totality of the circumstances when considering our transfer business between ~2016-2019. There's plenty of blame to go around, and Poch certainly shares in some of it, but Levy is the man running the show and is the one who bears ultimate responsibility.I'm watching KWP play really well against City for Southampton ... The sun doesn't shine out of Pochs arsehole whether levy was a **** to him or not.
Poch had more control at this club than any manager since ... Levy takes all sorts of blame, just tired of this airbrushed version that people trot out about Poch.I'm not saying Poch is blameless, and agree that his youth development in particular was a huge failing. But that doesn't mean we should ignore the totality of the circumstances when considering our transfer business between ~2016-2019. There's plenty of blame to go around, and Poch certainly shares in some of it, but Levy is the man running the show and is the one who bears ultimate responsibility.
I'm not sure Poch believed that was the case, mate:Poch had more control at this club than any manager since ... Levy takes all sorts of blame, just tired of this airbrushed version that people trot out about Poch.
Ah at the end ... Yes, of course that's what I meant mate.I'm not sure Poch believed that was the case, mate:
"Pochetinno said at the end of July that the club ought to change his job title back to coach from manager as he was in the dark over transfer activity? “I am not in charge and I know nothing about the situation of my players,” Pochettino said. “Sell, buy players; sign contract, not sign contract – it is not in my hands. It is in the club’s hands and Daniel Levy’s hands.”"