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danielneeds · Mar 10, 2020

dudu said:
Why bring in Mourinho then?

Uber expensive specialist at winning things

Because he thought it would be cheaper than rebuilding the squad and Jose would get a tune out of the knackered and worn out players.

As is often the case with Levy, it was a false economy. Now he’s gonna have to pay for the managerial change and rebuild the squad. Or just let it continue to drift on and eventually replace Mourinho too.

shelfboy68 · Mar 10, 2020

fishhhandaricecake said:
Yep it was horrible reading which only compounded the current feeling of gloom and depression around the club. I've supported and backed Levy a lot recently due to the huge strides we have made with the Stadium and Training ground and also in the league over the years since they took over but what really irks me is the seemingly lack of ambition/plan. It now seems Levy got very lucky with Poch who transformed our club and who probably ultimately got sick and tired of working on a shoe string budget with a difficult to deal with chairman.

The latest comments fill me with no confidence that we will address the key areas of the squad that need improving and also Mouriniho seems to have been yet another bad managerial hire who just doesn't suit what the club stands for.

We'd come off the back of a CL final and new stadium opening and signed one yes one good player during the summer in Lo Celso, its just getting tiring quite frankly following this club under Levy. Its not even that they don't care about the on field success I just think Levy has absolutely no clue about football, he is a businessman sure but he needs to step away from the football matters or sell and move on because we are stale as fuck and have missed so so many opportunities to capitalise on positions of strength.

If he pulls out £200mil this summer and gets us new full backs, CDM, CM and ST poss x2 then I might start to see a chink of light but the chance of that happening is about 1,000,000 - 1.

No one can argue regarding the stadium or training ground how good a job he has done, but those minutes mention how they want us fan's to focus on that and kind of ignore what is going on on the pitch.
We need to spend quite a bit but the reality is that we won't spend much unless Kane is sold off.

specspurs · Mar 10, 2020

fishhhandaricecake said:
Yep it was horrible reading which only compounded the current feeling of gloom and depression around the club. I've supported and backed Levy a lot recently due to the huge strides we have made with the Stadium and Training ground and also in the league over the years since they took over but what really irks me is the seemingly lack of ambition/plan. It now seems Levy got very lucky with Poch who transformed our club and who probably ultimately got sick and tired of working on a shoe string budget with a difficult to deal with chairman.

The latest comments fill me with no confidence that we will address the key areas of the squad that need improving and also Mouriniho seems to have been yet another bad managerial hire who just doesn't suit what the club stands for.

We'd come off the back of a CL final and new stadium opening and signed one yes one good player during the summer in Lo Celso, its just getting tiring quite frankly following this club under Levy. Its not even that they don't care about the on field success I just think Levy has absolutely no clue about football, he is a businessman sure but he needs to step away from the football matters or sell and move on because we are stale as fuck and have missed so so many opportunities to capitalise on positions of strength.

If he pulls out £200mil this summer and gets us new full backs, CDM, CM and ST poss x2 then I might start to see a chink of light but the chance of that happening is about 1,000,000 - 1.

If I could winner this 100x I would.

fishhhandaricecake · Mar 10, 2020

shelfboy68 said:
No one can argue regarding the stadium or training ground how good a job he has done, but those minutes mention how they want us fan's to focus on that and kind of ignore what is going on on the pitch.
We need to spend quite a bit but the reality is that we won't spend much unless Kane is sold off.

Agree mate Levy is deflecting what is happening on the pitch, I've defended him long enough and thought things would improve once the stadium was built but those minutes fill me with zero confidence that the on the field success is a priority, its more important to get Lady Gaga booked in than it is to have a back-up striker.

yankspurs · Mar 10, 2020

fishhhandaricecake said:
Agree mate Levy is deflecting what is happening on the pitch, I've defended him long enough and thought things would improve once the stadium was built but those minutes fill me with zero confidence that the on the field success is a priority, its more important to get Lady Gaga booked in than it is to have a back-up striker.

Money trumps all with Levy. He wont spend it but he'll bring it in. Which is why he now is trading the friendly tour in the summer for the competitive club world cub tournament which can bring in £50m because giving players less time off has the ring of sanity to it.

fishhhandaricecake · Mar 10, 2020

yankspurs said:
Money trumps all with Levy. He wont spend it but he'll bring it in. Which is why he now is trading the friendly tour in the summer for the competitive club world cub tournament which can bring in £50m because giving players less time off has the ring of sanity to it.

I really thought things would change once the new stadium was up and running and sure we’ve spent a little more but those minutes are levy reverting to type and some of the comments about spending money on players not correlating to success sum his approach up, disgusting.

So I suppose Man.City spending millions and millions on transfer fees and wages on Aguero,KDB, Sterling, Ederson, Walker, Toure, David Silva, Laporte etc etc etc as well as recuruiting the best manager in the game had diddly squat to do with their recent success.

Levy has to let go of football matters otherwise he just has to go full stop, enough is enough.

Lighty64 · Mar 10, 2020

shelfmonkey said:
For me Levy's most obvious blind spot is the correlation of income with success, actually winning trophies! All the biggest clubs in our league with the largest income streams have all won the top trophies, this fact seems lost on Levy, he seems to believe that just participating in the CL is going open up the revenue floodgates whilst failing to realise that new support needed to feed that flood needs to see Spurs win the top trophies!!

the only way they can change that is digging into their own pockets, to do that DL has to match 15% of whatever Lewis would chuck in without it affecting Levy's stake

dudu · Mar 10, 2020

shelfmonkey said:
Why not back the man at the crucial time who was getting us to punch way above our weight in the first place?! Instead of letting all the hard work stagnate!!

I hear you bud, but Poch by all accounts only wanted unobtainable players in the summer we didn't purchase. So what are we going to do?

Poch played his own part in the stagnation too.

dudu · Mar 10, 2020

danielneeds said:
Because he thought it would be cheaper than rebuilding the squad and Jose would get a tune out of the knackered and worn out players.

As is often the case with Levy, it was a false economy. Now he’s gonna have to pay for the managerial change and rebuild the squad. Or just let it continue to drift on and eventually replace Mourinho too.

Did he? Where are you getting that from? Levy had already spent money last summer on reinforcements and by all reports that I have seen Jose provided him with a list of targets before he got the job.

You're making out like Levy doesn't know the squad needs a rebuild? What do you think he is gonna do, just let everyone get too old and or leave until it's Doris up front with Chirpy in the No 10?

dudu · Mar 10, 2020

shelfmonkey said:
As manager of Spurs that remains to be seen.

That's missing the point. You don't invest in a manger like Jose if you don't want to succeed.

Had he have gone out and got Nagglesman or someone similar, I guarantee you the same people would be on here asking why we didn't go for a Jose or an Ancelloti saying Levy took the cheap easy route getting someone unproven in the Prem at this level.

dudu · Mar 10, 2020

fishhhandaricecake said:
Yep it was horrible reading which only compounded the current feeling of gloom and depression around the club. I've supported and backed Levy a lot recently due to the huge strides we have made with the Stadium and Training ground and also in the league over the years since they took over but what really irks me is the seemingly lack of ambition/plan. It now seems Levy got very lucky with Poch who transformed our club and who probably ultimately got sick and tired of working on a shoe string budget with a difficult to deal with chairman.

The latest comments fill me with no confidence that we will address the key areas of the squad that need improving and also Mouriniho seems to have been yet another bad managerial hire who just doesn't suit what the club stands for.

We'd come off the back of a CL final and new stadium opening and signed one yes one good player during the summer in Lo Celso, its just getting tiring quite frankly following this club under Levy. Its not even that they don't care about the on field success I just think Levy has absolutely no clue about football, he is a businessman sure but he needs to step away from the football matters or sell and move on because we are stale as fuck and have missed so so many opportunities to capitalise on positions of strength.

If he pulls out £200mil this summer and gets us new full backs, CDM, CM and ST poss x2 then I might start to see a chink of light but the chance of that happening is about 1,000,000 - 1.

Classic fan.

Expecting 5 maybe 6 new players in the summer or else it's all guns blazing.

I'm gonna bet those 5 or 6 players better be to your exact liking or else you'll still have the knives out.

JUSTINSIGNAL · Mar 10, 2020

dudu said:
Classic fan.

Expecting 5 maybe 6 new players in the summer or else it's all guns blazing.

I'm gonna bet those 5 or 6 players better be to your exact liking or else you'll still have the knives out.

Exactly. Also the bit about us spending at little more’ than usual. Like we haven’t just blown £200m across 2 transfer windows ???

dudu · Mar 10, 2020

JUSTINSIGNAL said:
Exactly. Also the bit about us spending at little more’ than usual. Like haven’t just blown £200m across 2 transfer windows ???

Yeah. What about the 4/5 players we just bought? Somehow when we do spend money it never seems to count.

Shadydan · Mar 10, 2020

dudu said:
Classic fan.

Expecting 5 maybe 6 new players in the summer or else it's all guns blazing.

I'm gonna bet those 5 or 6 players better be to your exact liking or else you'll still have the knives out.

This is the problem, people just don't set their own expectations and feel 'let down' and 'dissapointed' at the end of the transfer window, it happens every fucking year lol

What exactly were we expecting from these minutes anyway, Levy is hardly going to come out and say we aim to spend massive money, that would be entirely stupid, nor would he ever admit to making a mistake in not strengthening the team. Anyone who takes that as anything other than utter filler is looking at it wrong and if you're getting your nickers in a twist over this then lol

shelfmonkey · Mar 10, 2020

MK Yid said:
Bale and Modric for starters

You're right there. The real point though is what is the point of a club our size creating superstars for some other team? If that pleases Levy then we really are in trouble!!

Shadydan · Mar 10, 2020

fishhhandaricecake said:
Yep it was horrible reading which only compounded the current feeling of gloom and depression around the club. I've supported and backed Levy a lot recently due to the huge strides we have made with the Stadium and Training ground and also in the league over the years since they took over but what really irks me is the seemingly lack of ambition/plan. It now seems Levy got very lucky with Poch who transformed our club and who probably ultimately got sick and tired of working on a shoe string budget with a difficult to deal with chairman.

The latest comments fill me with no confidence that we will address the key areas of the squad that need improving and also Mouriniho seems to have been yet another bad managerial hire who just doesn't suit what the club stands for.

We'd come off the back of a CL final and new stadium opening and signed one yes one good player during the summer in Lo Celso, its just getting tiring quite frankly following this club under Levy. Its not even that they don't care about the on field success I just think Levy has absolutely no clue about football, he is a businessman sure but he needs to step away from the football matters or sell and move on because we are stale as fuck and have missed so so many opportunities to capitalise on positions of strength.

If he pulls out £200mil this summer and gets us new full backs, CDM, CM and ST poss x2 then I might start to see a chink of light but the chance of that happening is about 1,000,000 - 1.

This post got 8 winner ratings ffs

Lighty64 · Mar 10, 2020

fishhhandaricecake said:
I really thought things would change once the new stadium was up and running and sure we’ve spent a little more but those minutes are levy reverting to type and some of the comments about spending money on players not correlating to success sum his approach up, disgusting.

So I suppose Man.City spending millions and millions on transfer fees and wages on Aguero,KDB, Sterling, Ederson, Walker, Toure, David Silva, Laporte etc etc etc as well as recuruiting the best manager in the game had diddly squat to do with their recent success.

Levy has to let go of football matters otherwise he just has to go full stop, enough is enough.

as I've mentioned in so many replies but no one seems to of come up with an answer yet. Since Man C was taken over they have spent 1.85b quite a lot of millions. a lot of it before FFP kicked in and their off the field improvements whereas good as in place due to the athletics championship.

so please answer how we could have competed while building a stadium, or is everyone saying they should have chucked a billion of their own money and not expect it back so it didn't fuck the financing up for the Stadium

Lighty64 · Mar 10, 2020

Shadydan said:
This post got 8 winner ratings ffs

yes and most of them from people that said before the summer window we wouldn't spend.

ENIC are now to blame Ndombele hasn't settled or can't get out of 1st gear during a match

RichieS · Mar 10, 2020

fishhhandaricecake said:
Yep it was horrible reading which only compounded the current feeling of gloom and depression around the club. I've supported and backed Levy a lot recently due to the huge strides we have made with the Stadium and Training ground and also in the league over the years since they took over but what really irks me is the seemingly lack of ambition/plan. It now seems Levy got very lucky with Poch who transformed our club and who probably ultimately got sick and tired of working on a shoe string budget with a difficult to deal with chairman.

The latest comments fill me with no confidence that we will address the key areas of the squad that need improving and also Mouriniho seems to have been yet another bad managerial hire who just doesn't suit what the club stands for.

We'd come off the back of a CL final and new stadium opening and signed one yes one good player during the summer in Lo Celso, its just getting tiring quite frankly following this club under Levy. Its not even that they don't care about the on field success I just think Levy has absolutely no clue about football, he is a businessman sure but he needs to step away from the football matters or sell and move on because we are stale as fuck and have missed so so many opportunities to capitalise on positions of strength.

If he pulls out £200mil this summer and gets us new full backs, CDM, CM and ST poss x2 then I might start to see a chink of light but the chance of that happening is about 1,000,000 - 1.

Specifically which bits fill you with no confidence that we will address key areas of the squad that need improving?

The concerning bit for me is the "little correlation between money spent and winning". That may be broadly true across all of European football but very much isn't in the modern English game. On the other hand, this is also someone else's distilled interpretation of what was no doubt a much longer discussion and Levy isn't a moron, so...

Also, the bit about last summer's business is massive hindsight. As well as Lo Celso, Ndombele was exactly the sort of signing that clubs in that position make. Sessegnon would also have been expected to make far more of an impact than he has and, in the meantime, we've made a good signing in Bergwijn.

buckley · Mar 10, 2020

I have no problem with the spending its buying the right players that seems to be a problem .
Sessegnon jury is out
Ndombele looks like an expensive mistake
Gedson up to now just seems not good enough
Clarke showing no signs of being a good player
Bergwijn for me is not the real deal the goal in the first game brought him a lot of time with some fans . One swallow does not make summer .
It seems that Lo celso has been our only good buy and perhaps the people responsible for identifying players is not up to scratch .

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