Player watch: Danny Rose

bubble07 · Nov 13, 2019

Japhet said:
I'd imagine that THFC employ Danny Rose. We tried to sell him but no takers. Isn't a loan an alternative to that? If he refuses to move his registration he deserves to get frozen out. IMO we have too many players holding the club to ransom over their contracts and that's a big part of the current problem we're facing. On the flip side of that we have players who would give their all but never get a chance because they're deemed 'not good enough'. Well, as far as I can make out, the ones who are stirring the shit are obviously not good enough either, as they prove every time they run on the pitch.

The ones deemed not good enough cant be much worse so they need to play

In 2 minds about Vertonghen. Not sure if he wants to go or whether Levy isnt giving him a new deal. Would like to give him benefit of the doubt

He needs to be partnered by Sanchez for every league game. Foyth rotating with Aurier at RB and Davies rotating with Sessegnon at left back

dontcallme · Nov 13, 2019

Cheltenham Spur said:
It strikes me that this is another stick to beat Poch with. If Levy can see that picking up £20m for an aging and erratic at best lb maybe Poch should have too.

A gentle word with Rose to say this is the right time to go and we could all have moved on.

After all Poch was the one talking about a painful rebuild and that will inevitably mean him feeling the pain of some of his favourites leaving.

But this is supposing Rose will leave on the basis of us having a quiet word with him.

Watford were the only team reportedly interested in the summer. I can't imagine Rose leaving for a lower contract to go to a club he doesn't want to go to.

OPModric · Nov 13, 2019

Hercules said:
Danny Rose is no disruptive influence in the changing room etc. He is highly loved and liked by the players. He always tells it as it is. Wasn’t Poch who wanted him gone! Neither was it the players!

Disagree. Saying those things is disruptive to the whole club. It suggests that the club and Poch dosen't share the same ideas. Being united should be a focus right now.

Hercules · Nov 13, 2019

OPModric said:
Disagree. Saying those things is disruptive to the whole club. It suggests that the club and Poch dosen't share the same ideas. Being united should be a focus right now.

I understand your point, but we all have our own views. I do not think he is being disrespective. The board created all this mess. Players are human in a very short career. However, I respect your comments

Lighty64 · Nov 13, 2019

let's just hope after this statement from Rose then Levy once a replacement is in place if Sess isn't gonna be used as a LB/WB is then told to stay away from the club. do it ASAP if we are going to use Sess and he will be begging for a team to purchase him come January.

if he isn't playing any form of football, he won't be getting called up for England and if it drags on by the time his contract is finished, no 1 in the PL or Europe will be interested (to be honest with his performances I doubt many would be interested now)

coys200 · Nov 13, 2019

Everlasting Seconds said:
Interesting to see so many reactions saying a version of Rose should rot.
No he shouldn't. He is neither professionally nor morally obliged to be sold on Levy's command.
He has a contract with the club, a contract that was freely entered into by both parties, and
his right is to see it through if he wants to. You cannot seriously wish to demote a player just because he doesn't want to be sold.
And then when a player does want to be sold, that's wrong too and posters criticise his loyalty. Let Rose have his contract, play footie, and let Levy not fetch his sell on fee. If players leave on a free after running down their contracts, that mismanagement by the directors, not misconduct by the players.

I think you’ve completely missed the point. The issue isn’t running his contract down the issue is being professional about it and not mouthing off to the press every 5 minutes. Vertonghen and Alderweireld have been totally professional at least off the pitch. And Hercules as for someone being honest and telling the truth all the time. Well I think someone made a film about doing that. It’s not always the best policy.

Seafordian Spurs · Nov 13, 2019

OPModric said:
Disagree. Saying those things is disruptive to the whole club. It suggests that the club and Poch dosen't share the same ideas. Being united should be a focus right now.

Agree. Coming out with this stuff in public is a poor show. The man's got previous. He's being utterly disingenuous if he thinks it's OK to come out with this stuff and for it NOT to impact upon the already poor perception of the club.

Who cares if he's well liked in the fucking dressing room well I'm pleased he's got his pals what a nice life! He's regressed professionally and cost us points.

kaz Hirai · Nov 13, 2019

Ben1 said:
I have no insight, but just because Rose thinks the boss has his back, doesn't mean its true. Its common sense for managers to back their man til the very end. As long as a player is at the club and can offer something on the pitch, alienating him is utterly pointless.

That's arguably how we've got in this mess with other players.

Tell that to ekotto, kaboul, stambolli, adebayor, Kyle walker peters, wanyama, Janssen etc

When he doesn't have your back he makes it clear. He certainly wouldn't play u in high profile games either

Everlasting Seconds · Nov 13, 2019

coys200 said:
I think you’ve completely missed the point. The issue isn’t running his contract down the issue is being professional about it and not mouthing off to the press every 5 minutes. Vertonghen and Alderweireld have been totally professional at least off the pitch. And Hercules as for someone being honest and telling the truth all the time. Well I think someone made a film about doing that. It’s not always the best policy.

You English people (I admit I'm half guessing that you specifically are English, but your profile does say you're from London) and your fear of honesty. Everything should be so polite and convoluted and by golly never say anything that actually just is your actual thoughts. I have no issue with Rose's latest interview. I think it is what it is, and he isn't really saying anything we don't already know. Maybe the part I didn't know was how supportive he is of Pochettino. He is clearly picking a side for Pochettino against ENIC. But regardless, he has a contract, he is a Tottenham player and I see no reason in his behaviour to suggest that he shouldn't be a part of the senior squad.

Stamford · Nov 13, 2019

Hercules said:
I understand your point, but we all have our own views. I do not think he is being disrespective. The board created all this mess. Players are human in a very short career. However, I respect your comments

Agree with you usually but not this time. Rose wanted out before when it suited him and now he's not flavour of the month he wants to see out his contact. Our focus needs to be the players who want to be better long term not the likes of Danny and Eriksen

Cheltenham Spur · Nov 13, 2019

dontcallme said:
But this is supposing Rose will leave on the basis of us having a quiet word with him.

Watford were the only team reportedly interested in the summer. I can't imagine Rose leaving for a lower contract to go to a club he doesn't want to go to.

Valid points. But there comes a point where a manager needs to accept that players who have been on a journey with him are on the decline. And the really great managers are quick to cut the ties and move on for the good of the club.

It seems to me that Poch is struggling to do this and we can see where it's got him.

Spurs_Bear · Nov 13, 2019

It's totally fine guys. A new manager could sort all this out remember...

Hercules · Nov 13, 2019

Stamford said:
Agree with you usually but not this time. Rose wanted out before when it suited him and now he's not flavour of the month he wants to see out his contact. Our focus needs to be the players who want to be better long term not the likes of Danny and Eriksen

Your comments are valid. In situations like this, I will normally always stick up for the player at any club. Personally, the way we have treated him since Kyle Walker’s sale is not very good from the club’s perspective. And of you read all his comments since you will suss out what the issues and broken assurances are. Clubs on some cases know how to throw a player out to the vultures.

kaz Hirai · Nov 13, 2019

Spurs_Bear said:
It's totally fine guys. A new manager could sort all this out remember...

I hear Jose mourhino is known for his great squad harmony, with players always giving everything got him
He'll have them all on new deals and smashing Liverpool at anfield within a year

carpediem991 · Nov 13, 2019

You should never treat a player bad or give him a feeling he should leave when he is part of the managers plans and you want him to play well with 100% effort. What kind of amateurs are responsible for this mess?

Now and with these comments you should put Danny to the reserves as you can clearly have doubts if he is fully committed to get us back on track.

Deleted member 27995 · Nov 13, 2019

More excuses.

Everyone and everything has an excuse attached to it.

dontcallme · Nov 13, 2019

Cheltenham Spur said:
Valid points. But there comes a point where a manager needs to accept that players who have been on a journey with him are on the decline. And the really great managers are quick to cut the ties and move on for the good of the club.

It seems to me that Poch is struggling to do this and we can see where it's got him.

Problem is we can sell the players when on a high and miss out on a few seasons of their prime and be labelled a selling club. Or we can hold onto them until they decline and possibly be stuck with a player who no decent club wants.

wrd · Nov 13, 2019

Vinny_Sammways_left_peg said:
More excuses.

Everyone and everything has an excuse attached to it.

Just shouting the word excuses doesn't help though does it, if you think it's an excuse then argue it and prove why it's not a worthwhile reason.

Dr Know · Nov 13, 2019

People saying Rose should keep his mouth shut but yet still calling out ITKs, asking if they know what’s going on behind the scenes! Lol
This actually connects some dots for me. If I was given a role at work and my boss/CEO/owner tried interfering, I would be pissed of and this in turn would more than likely affect my performance.
Poch is supposed to be the coach, assess players and pick the teams. I really doubt that Levy/the board attends training sessions to be able to decide who is sold or who should/should not be picked for match days.
I think there’s a lot more to come out, although I would prefer we keep our internal issues internal.

wrd · Nov 13, 2019

Worth pointing out that the press reported that Rose was one of those that organised the dinner for Poch a couple of weeks ago. Before the Liv game.

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