Player watch: Danny Rose
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Hercules
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What has he done wrong but tell the truth?
Poch never wanted him to leave! I got more respect for players that tell it as it is, rather than those that say one thing to fans and press, and another behind closed doors ?
nasescoba1985
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Oh here he goes. Jumping on the bandwagon as per usual. Why do you always wait for news to break in the press before expressing your supposed knowledge on situations at Spurs? You never mentioned this before when we were all discussing Rose
ikky
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Lol before he said he knows his worth and wanted a higher wage, now it looks like no one really wanted him or to pay him “his worth” he wants to stay and keep the “low” wages his on until the end of the contract. Like Toby some of these players need a reality check and realise they are not so special and won’t get massive wages elsewhere as they are not in high demand.
Hercules
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Before you start slagging me off! The bosses know what I share PRIVATELY!!! And as I said on few occasions, if a story breaks that I/we were aware of in private, I confirm or deny it! And that is for a very good reason. So before you start spouting off, be aware of this.
Stamford
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Maybe just say nothing. It's detrimental to the club regardless of what happens behind the scenes
nailsy
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That's surprising that Levy would go against Poch in getting rid of a player.
Everlasting Seconds
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Nobody is interested in seeing you pick a fight with somebody called Hercules.
I have no issue if Rose wants to run his contract down. But I do have an issue with him constantly trying to make my football club look stupid. I also think levy wanting to cash in on a declining 29 year old was perfectly reasonable giving us £20m towards a new LB.
Graysonti
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agreed - but to be in the first team has to be earned
Everlasting Seconds
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Interesting to see so many reactions saying a version of Rose should rot.
No he shouldn't. He is neither professionally nor morally obliged to be sold on Levy's command.
He has a contract with the club, a contract that was freely entered into by both parties, and
his right is to see it through if he wants to. You cannot seriously wish to demote a player just because he doesn't want to be sold.
And then when a player does want to be sold, that's wrong too and posters criticise his loyalty. Let Rose have his contract, play footie, and let Levy not fetch his sell on fee. If players leave on a free after running down their contracts, that mismanagement by the directors, not misconduct by the players.
No he shouldn't. He is neither professionally nor morally obliged to be sold on Levy's command.
He has a contract with the club, a contract that was freely entered into by both parties, and
his right is to see it through if he wants to. You cannot seriously wish to demote a player just because he doesn't want to be sold.
And then when a player does want to be sold, that's wrong too and posters criticise his loyalty. Let Rose have his contract, play footie, and let Levy not fetch his sell on fee. If players leave on a free after running down their contracts, that mismanagement by the directors, not misconduct by the players.
Hercules
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BRILLIANT!!!
nasescoba1985
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Anyone can confirm or deny a story mate that breaks in the press. It doesn’t take Einstein to work
This. Although I don’t personally believe Rose wants to run his contract down out of loyalty to Spurs. I genuinely believe he just wants to be a **** by punishing Levy. Basically saying “ you can’t sell me to make money and you have to pay me still “. He’s doing it with the wrong intentions. I’m no Levy fan by all means, but Rose really doesn’t have much respect does he.
mpickard2087
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This isn't a shock, and has been completely obvious for ages. A player who had a good few years and became one of the better left backs in the league for one of the better teams, then injury/health/whatever derailed his momentum, he's now getting on for 30 and the club reckon (and the evidence suggests) he's in decline and think its time to cash in and make some value from him rather than commit to another contract. Business wise, it's prudent and part and parcel of operating a well run football club.
Problems seem to be though that a) in 2019 Rose realises he isn't getting a better gig anywhere else and is reluctant to leave, b) Poch is demonstrating maybe too much loyalty again and maybe umming and ahhing about getting rid, and c) whatever reputation and name value that he had built up has now been eclipsed by injury and fitness woes and stuttering form, so lack of serious interest at a decent price.
It's not a great situation, but neither side is really in the wrong. The club has a depreciating asset they cant offload. Rose is still (currently) a regular at a CL, Big 6 club and for his National Team so you're not going to give that up lightly and jump ahead of time if you're still playing lots of football, and I don't see him doing much wrong here by seemingly telling the truth of the situation.
Problems seem to be though that a) in 2019 Rose realises he isn't getting a better gig anywhere else and is reluctant to leave, b) Poch is demonstrating maybe too much loyalty again and maybe umming and ahhing about getting rid, and c) whatever reputation and name value that he had built up has now been eclipsed by injury and fitness woes and stuttering form, so lack of serious interest at a decent price.
It's not a great situation, but neither side is really in the wrong. The club has a depreciating asset they cant offload. Rose is still (currently) a regular at a CL, Big 6 club and for his National Team so you're not going to give that up lightly and jump ahead of time if you're still playing lots of football, and I don't see him doing much wrong here by seemingly telling the truth of the situation.
dontcallme
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I think this is part of the new movement of football. The amount of money in the game changed everything.
There was a time that the wage gap between the top clubs in the top division and those at the bottom wasn't that different. This meant when players moved clubs it was largely for footballing reasons.
Nowadays players would rather sit on the bench for £100k a week than play each week for £60k a week.
Not really how fans want the players to behave but frankly it is understandable.
When we received high offers for Carrick and Berbatov we could justify selling as we could use the funds to reinvest. But the challenge for us is more about attracting the right players than finding the funds for the transfer fees.
The result of this is as teams don't want to sell their prize assets to the top clubs for the transfer fee the only way for the players to get their moves is to go on strike. When a player is on a downward spiral and the only interested clubs are those below then the players would generally rather see out their contract than move to a lower club.
This in turn is regularly making players hate figures when they leave their clubs. They either go on strike to get the move they want or hold the club to ransom by seeing out their contract to not make a move they don't want.
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It's a business, Rose is a walking soundbite in an age of instant social media gratification.
He's going to run his mouth anyway, who gives a fuck, this Club are banter material for media and fans alike (including our own)
Rose as a footballer now represents Spurs at present, mainly shite with a few good moments.
He's going to run his mouth anyway, who gives a fuck, this Club are banter material for media and fans alike (including our own)
Rose as a footballer now represents Spurs at present, mainly shite with a few good moments.
King of Otters
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When his stock was high and he gave that Sun interview a couple of years back he was quick to say how he’d happily force a move through if a big offer came in. Now he’s regressed in his career and only Watford want him he’s going to see his contract out. That’s fair enough I suppose, but I do find it hard to feel any sympathy with him.
Football is a business which he’s done very well out of financially. Levy’s responsibility is the future of the football club, not the welfare of ageing full backs who have a tendency to criticise the club to the tabloid press.
Football is a business which he’s done very well out of financially. Levy’s responsibility is the future of the football club, not the welfare of ageing full backs who have a tendency to criticise the club to the tabloid press.
