Quite simply - fuck this dressing room and all the self-serving twats in it, then. Sack off all those not committed, put in Lo Celso, Sess, Skipp, Tanganga, and others, and let’s get through this season and tear it up and start again.
I don’t want this club to be like Chelsea where players just turn on a manager at the drop of the hat.
Did we use a different system when we played Palace? It's the only game that I can think of when we looked comfortable.
He obviously saw signs that his players were buying into it though, our players are publicly criticising Poch for persisting with it.
For the first time in SC history, I think this is something everyone can agree on.I want Poch to stop being stubborn and change things up.
For the first time in SC history, I think this is something everyone can agree on.
The thing I really don't understand is that it should never of got this far.
Why has Poch persisted with something that all the players and fans can see that isn't right, for so long.
You have to be able to step back and evaluate objectively sometimes, and for some reason Poch hasn't done this - yet.
But worrying it's come to this and it still remains to be seen if he will change it.
Personally, I think this Saturday will tell us everything. How we set up and the performance even more important than the result if we're looking ahead at the long term.
That's so frustrating.Yes we did, we lined up with:
Lloris
Aurier - Toby - Verts - Rose
Sissoko - Winks
Lamela - Eriksen - Son
Kane
Not a surprise that when we play our best formation that suits our players we look a better side.
Yes we did, we lined up with:
Lloris
Aurier - Toby - Verts - Rose
Sissoko - Winks
Lamela - Eriksen - Son
Kane
Not a surprise that when we play our best formation that suits our players we look a better side.
I think he changed it as we came unstuck in a few games where teams got 11 behind the ball and Dier/Wanyama were a bit redundant.What I don't get is why on Earth did Poch move away from the 4-2-3-1?!!
We were solid, consistent, played good football a lot of the time and performed brilliantly in the league over 3 seasons using it.
You have to wonder what was going through his head to change something which has been so successful for you and has given your squad consistency. Everyone knew their roles, it was very well balanced and it even got us results when we were underpar, which is a huge thing.
I literally pray every week that he realises he's made a massive mistake and reverts to the 4-2-3-1 with a DM alongside 1 of Ndombele, Winks or Sissoko.
Can't believe he's lost the plot tactically like this, he isn't a stupid man!
That's so frustrating.
Palace were woeful that day.
It is certainly important to have a flexible approach. I've wondered before whether his reluctance to make subs is because he doesn't like to acknowledge that his starting lineup didn't work but that is maybe a stretch. I really hope that he stays but as you and many others have said, he needs to acknowledge that the current system isn't working and make changes. Clearly there isn't just one issue at hand: there is the contract issue with some players and the defensive problems but he can control the tactics.i sometimes wonder with him, in formations/subs/selections, if he does things as he wants people to believe he’s some sort of tactical genius when he isn’t. there’s nothing wrong with having a style and not moving away from it. yes the players might change, but the system and set up doesn’t necessarily need to. especially when it was becoming relatively successful.
What I don't get is why on Earth did Poch move away from the 4-2-3-1?!!
We were solid, consistent, played good football a lot of the time and performed brilliantly in the league over 3 seasons using it.
You have to wonder what was going through his head to change something which has been so successful for you and has given your squad consistency. Everyone knew their roles, it was very well balanced and it even got us results when we were underpar, which is a huge thing.
I literally pray every week that he realises he's made a massive mistake and reverts to the 4-2-3-1 with a DM alongside 1 of Ndombele, Winks or Sissoko.
Can't believe he's lost the plot tactically like this, he isn't a stupid man!
The question was would Klopp persist with something that didn't work.
The answer was yes, he did, for a while. Until he changed it.
I'm not advocating for the diamond. I want Poch to change it.
It is certainly important to have a flexible approach. I've wondered before whether his reluctance to make subs is because he doesn't like to acknowledge that his starting lineup didn't work but that is maybe a stretch. I really hope that he stays but as you and many others have said, he needs to acknowledge that the current system isn't working and make changes. Clearly there isn't just one issue at hand: there is the contract issue with some players and the defensive problems but he can control the tactics.
I think he changed it as we came unstuck in a few games where teams got 11 behind the ball and Dier/Wanyama were a bit redundant.