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Plus 11 from DembeleAnd it hasn't there is circa 100 mil available. Prices for players have skyrocketed since we started the stadium build.
Plus 11 from DembeleAnd it hasn't there is circa 100 mil available. Prices for players have skyrocketed since we started the stadium build.
Not the same year, maybe a year after. It was the first year we played the Champs league at Wembley and Son was the year before thatDid they not end up knocking us out of the CL that year too?
Think it's safe to say he made the right decision in the end though!
Know not allowed to ask ITK but rest of you guys maybe know/heard
What's the hardest part in getting a new player ? Convince the player ? The agent or the club?
Nowadays it almost seems it hardest to get the agent to work with you because they only want money and don't care about what's best for the player
Also thanks for all the info trix! Now we just hope we get this deal done and find a CM.
I think there is a reason why Liverpool, as one example, have had such a large increase in Agent fees paid out in recent windows.Know not allowed to ask ITK but rest of you guys maybe know/heard
What's the hardest part in getting a new player ? Convince the player ? The agent or the club?
Nowadays it almost seems it hardest to get the agent to work with you because they only want money and don't care about what's best for the player
Also thanks for all the info trix! Now we just hope we get this deal done and find a CM.
Know not allowed to ask ITK but rest of you guys maybe know/heard
What's the hardest part in getting a new player ? Convince the player ? The agent or the club?
Nowadays it almost seems it hardest to get the agent to work with you because they only want money and don't care about what's best for the player
Also thanks for all the info trix! Now we just hope we get this deal done and find a CM.
The thing with Werner - I don't think he is really competing for time with Kane. He will fit in any slot across the front 3.
So, perhaps a switch to a 433
Werner Kane Son
Dele Lamela
Dier
Rose Jan Toby KWP
Lloris
This assumes Erisken is off in the summer. Leaves Lucas on the bench, and we would probably want one more in - Grealish or Bowen to help with the HG requirements. We would still have Winks and Sissoko who could play in a CM3
Stacked as in Son is away and has missed multiple games this season due to internationals, Moura is injured and hasn't proved himself over a long period of time yet, and Lamela is seemingly always a few games away from injury, and our only exact striking back-up for Kane is Llorente, who is off. In what way are we "stacked"?
I made the exact same argument about Martial. Great player, maybe an upgrade, but NOT a priority.When everyone was hot on Martial, what was the difference? Someone who can play up top if needed, but is actually more suited to wide support role? Werner has a much better record than Martial and is younger.
Lucas Moura's goal to game ratio is franking embarrassing compared to Werner and he's four years older – and he's played five of his years for the best club in Ligue 1, a league substantially worse than the Bundesliga. Werner's done it at a promoted team and helped fire them to all kinds of records for the best performances by a promoted team in German history.
Son is rarely away - this year is the exception rather than the rule - and Moura has been injured for like 2 weeks. If Mane went to AFCON and Shaqiri was out with a niggly injury would you say Liverpool needed to spend 60 million on a Firminho backup? How many players are we supposed to have as wide men/auxiliary strikers? We essentially have 4 players for those 2 positions (Kane/Llorente, Son/Lucas). Llorente aside (he's about the highest quality perma-benchwarmer we can keep happy) we're about as strong as any team in the league in that position. If we were to add any more than that we'd imbalance the squad and Lucas would probably ask to leave.
I made the exact same argument about Martial. Great player, maybe an upgrade, but NOT a priority.
Of course Werner has a better goalscoring record - he plays as a lone striker whereas Lucas plays predominantly as a wide forward/winger with the odd game as a second striker. For his position, Lucas's goal return is fine and comparing him to Werner isn't really fair.
I agree with your last point, though. If the deal is possible, he's who Poch really wants and we think we can integrate him into the team while keeping everyone happy then we should go for it. We need to grasp these rare opportunities when the come along.
However, if it's at the expense of signing a quality midfielder then it's still ridiculous IMO.
I didn’t say we should spend 60m. I was challenging that we’re “stacked”. We’re not stacked in any department, we can’t afford to be
Liverpool have Mane, Salah, Firmino, Shaquiri, Sturridge, Origi, Lallana, Brewster. Now that’s stacked. Again I’m not saying 60mil, but they bought Shaqiri when they were “stacked” themselves so I don’t follow. We are not even remotely “stacked” in the attacking department
You have half this site saying he’s a wide support forward but you say he’s a lone striker? Which is it? As someone’s wrong. I’ve been listening to people say you can’t compare him to Kane as he’s a wide forward for the last 2 days
As I’ve said since the start, I don’t think we’ll get him. But the idea that we’re covered up top is a nonsense. There are other areas we should focus on first though, agreed
Their 'stacked' is pretty much man for man the same as ours. Salah (Kane), Firmino (Alli), Mane (Son), Shaqiri (Eriksen), Sturridge (Lucas), Lallana (Lamela), Origi (Llorente). Then theres a kid in Brewster who simply hasn't played.I didn’t say we should spend 60m. I was challenging that we’re “stacked”. We’re not stacked in any department, we can’t afford to be
Liverpool have Mane, Salah, Firmino, Shaquiri, Sturridge, Origi, Lallana, Brewster. Now that’s stacked. Again I’m not saying 60mil, but they bought Shaqiri when they were “stacked” themselves so I don’t follow. We are not even remotely “stacked” in the attacking department
You have half this site saying he’s a wide support forward but you say he’s a lone striker? Which is it? As someone’s wrong. I’ve been listening to people say you can’t compare him to Kane as he’s a wide forward for the last 2 days
As I’ve said since the start, I don’t think we’ll get him. But the idea that we’re covered up top is a nonsense. There are other areas we should focus on first though, agreed
Why would they sell Werner in January? Doesn't make any sense.
1/10I really werner sign him.
Why would they sell Werner in January? Doesn't make any sense.