New Stadium Details And Discussions

beats1 said:

Apologies I meant the boxes/seating which is located on the west and east stand

There is no north stand based seated sky lounge

Its weird on my drawings the sky lounge walkway is shaded grey and not purple, with the key saying that the plant/riser with the back of house being able to access that area and not the punters
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Achap said:

Thanks for the info – it's always good to hear from the site. However, I wonder how much a crane operator (if that is what the informant is) would know about the overall build schedule. With two years still to go on the build programme, I would have thought that “several days” behind schedule would be manageable to make up. Several months would be alarming, but several days sounds like it is pretty much on track.

As to the client (Spurs) being all over the build – that's their job, and I'm glad they are determined to get it right.

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brasil_spur said:

Several days = two days delay from the twat up the crane and one day delay from the immigration police earlier on in the build. So nothing major to worry about right now IMO.

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Lilbaz said:

Think the only worry might have been the ne corner of whl.

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Phischy said:

I don't know when your layout is from (suspect it's the original planning app by the looks of it??) But the picture I have above is an updated interior vs the original plans, particularly reflecting updates to the floodlights and the area in the roof. It looks like, whatever the original plan, it has been improved upon. Suffice to say, the roof supports are clearly strong enough to support some kind of structure up there, whether it holds plant or people, which is what Philip was originally referring to when he questioned why that particular lounge can't go all the way around.

On that note, @philip I would think it's for a few reasons, one being that the skylounges above east and west are set back, partly because the sides are closer to the pitch and partly because, with the straight sided stands there is more room there (set in the roof the lounge style area is very slim), but above the north stand there isn't the same space behind the tiered seating. Also, variety is important as different people have different preferences. There isn't scope to have such a structure above the south stand as the single tier stand is of totally different design and there isn't really the ability to have access to something up there at all (although it's not impossible - with access coming via east and west) Finally, the access in general seems limited, which places a restriction on the number of people you can have up there at any given time, which has its own implications for time.

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beats1 said:

The roof isn't a typically strong roof, it is the weakest roof design you can have in a stadium. It is a multi ring tension roof system. This is seen on a lot of modern stadiums and typically have membrane roofs because they are light weight. Though its worth noting these tension roofs do tend to have poor acoustics due to membrane used and the fact most stadiums are sloping down. Though our stadium would potentially not have this problem as we are using sheet aluminium and polycarbonate sheets on the roof. However the OS/west ham stadium would potentially suffer from acoustic damping as they went for a membrane tension roof. To be honest I know more than most on this subject as I am a former Mechanical/Design Engineer who is currently working as an acoustic designer.

As for how much it could hold is debatable and only the engineers would truly know. It probably could hold a very light box and the master level drawing suggests thats what may go there.

The other reason it couldn't go all the way round is because the south stand roof side would likely be too far from the outer ring to support the weight. If you look at the ring system it is an egg shape, now on the north stand the "skylounge" stays close to the the inside tension ring so it is fine there and it is located above the pitch. Whereas on the south stand it would have hold the weight of the sky lounge and the weight skywalk and etc. Not to mention health and safety would be a pain in the arse.

Anyway back to the sky lounge. This is from the latest planning permission documents
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However if you go to the sky level level plan, there suggest some very light boxes. With only 4 toilets for the whole section:
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Then if you go to the section view it suggest something else
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It clearly states that the area is a service gantry but worth noting that it does have extra support for that level and that is the point at which the roof is likely to be the strongest as it has the shortest distances from the outer compression ring and the inner tension rings.

As for whether this is a sky lounge is unknown its worth noting that the west stand at the top of the stadium section is clearly stated as sky lounge. Which is where typically sky lounges are in american stadium.

Also because I been busy with work I havent been able to post as much but whilst this is the latest planning permission drawings. The 2016 amendments include a sky bridge from the north stand to the sainsburys building, which makes me wonder if they have gone back to the roof garden in that building being a drinking area. Which would be nice

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THFCSPURS19 said:

From 'Goatboy333' on SSC:

Emailed Donna Cullen and got this back;

"Thank you for your email regarding the time-lapse cameras currently capturing the stadium construction.

The current cameras which are located around the Northumberland Development Project are capturing the build process through a time-lapse system, which allows for a photo to be taken every minute and then uploaded to a special server. In line with that process, the Club has sought to make those images available to fans through the Stadium TV section of the Club’s new stadium microsite.

In order to enhance and improve this service for supporters, the Club has been in the process of comprehensively overhauling this system, in order to replace the live image feed with multiple streams, which will provide live cameras across the stadium site and throughout the full duration of the stadium build.

This process is now advanced and once technical work has been complete, the live image feed will be replaced with the new live streams as soon as possible, allowing fans around the world to watch the stadium progress minute by minute.

We apologise for the intermittent service which has been in place and can assure fans that we are working to ensure that the problems fans are currently encountering do not occur in the future.

Many thanks for your patience.

Best wishes,

Adam


Adam Davison
Head of Community Relations

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Phischy said:

These pictures beg to differ...

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yankspurs said:

The graphic rendering just annoys me. The stands are so far from the pitch!

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Jamturk said:

Isn't this the equivalent of watching paint dry?

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Jamturk said:

Isn't this the equivalent of watching paint dry?

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worcestersauce said:

Ok if this is a daft question fair enough but I'm not in the building trade, what are those acro props holding up? is it just the shuttering until the cement/concrete dries solid?

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