The Weekend ITK Discussion Thread 9/10 August 2014

Derryank · Aug 9, 2014

graveneworld said:
Nervous that Jan not announced and MM is sensitive. Hope they are not linked what with Utd needing someone.

I'm with you 110% on this one. Our worst nightmare with a week to go

prawnsandwich · Aug 9, 2014

jonnboy said:
And if I am

Thou has my blessing, though I had thought through that thoroughly.

diamond lights · Aug 9, 2014

Derryank said:
I'm with you 110% on this one. Our worst nightmare with a week to go

May be saving up Jan's contract announcement for this week leading up to opening match. Barcelona have got their CBs in now. He's signing. Relax

Drexl · Aug 9, 2014

Dier was fucking amazing today, worst comes to the worst and MM doesn't happen then we have unearthed a gem in Dier

Plus Kaboul is starting to look like the Kaboul of old

Parkie · Aug 9, 2014

JJetset said:
Enjoy your day at WHL if you are going and i will be doing the nudey run at HT....

You're Jermaine Defoe?

Tucker · Aug 9, 2014

I think the clue is in the wording of JJ's post this morning.

Cant divulge anything on MS or MM as too sensitive.

Also outgoing players is sensitive too

Dawson and a midfielder need to be shifted before we can bring MM or MS in is what I read from this.

archiewasking · Aug 9, 2014

Only ten pages so far? Was there a match today or summat?

Barry Mead · Aug 9, 2014

Drexl said:
Dier was fucking amazing today, worst comes to the worst and MM doesn't happen then we have unearthed a gem in Dier

Plus Kaboul is starting to look like the Kaboul of old

I thought Dier did very well, but was thinking Eunice is never going to get back to his pre injury form, I just didn't see him looking anything like the player of old

Parkie · Aug 9, 2014

Tucker said:
I think the clue is in the wording of JJ's post this morning.

Dawson and a midfielder need to be shifted before we can bring MM or MS in is what I read from this.

BAE tweeted a photo from inside WHL as well... Remember him?

Drexl · Aug 9, 2014

Barry Mead said:
I thought Dier did very well, but was thinking Eunice is never going to get back to his pre injury form, I just didn't see him looking anything like the player of old

I think he is looking sharper with each game plus putting together a run of games injury free will help his confidence no end

It is the beast i am worried about right now, on this and recent displays i would cash in

WiganSpur · Aug 9, 2014

Tucker said:
I think the clue is in the wording of JJ's post this morning.

Dawson and a midfielder need to be shifted before we can bring MM or MS in is what I read from this.

The way to shift Dawson is to sign Musacchio. I couldn't see him making the 25 if we did that. It looks like we're going to have to take the messy route with Daws but sadly it's the only way he's going to realise.

dondo · Aug 9, 2014

Drexl said:
Dier was fucking amazing today, worst comes to the worst and MM doesn't happen then we have unearthed a gem in Dier

Plus Kaboul is starting to look like the Kaboul of old

Too early to tell. Cant read to much into preseason games good or bad. Remember thinking dos santos was going to be a world beater for us after watching him in preseason

Tucker · Aug 9, 2014

Parkie said:
BAE tweeted a photo from inside WHL as well... Remember him?

I think Benny is a special case tbh, he's on the outside looking in really. Hasn't seemed part of the group and has been training on his own apparently. Unlike Dawson, he's not been linked to anyone, and there hasn't been a peep from the ITKs about him. I reckon he's going to be like Jenas, Bentley and Gomes, Levy won't let him leave for nothing, and no one wants to pay for him.

DaSpurs · Aug 9, 2014

Tucker said:
I think Benny is a special case tbh, he's on the outside looking in really. Hasn't seemed part of the group and has been training on his own apparently. Unlike Dawson, he's not been linked to anyone, and there hasn't been a peep from the ITKs about him. I reckon he's going to be like Jenas, Bentley and Gomes, Levy won't let him leave for nothing, and no one wants to pay for him.

True, but doesn't he only have a year left on his contract anyway? Seems to me he's either sold or loaned now, and then if not he'll just sit until the expiry.

Daredevil · Aug 9, 2014

WiganSpur said:
The way to shift Dawson is to sign Musacchio. I couldn't see him making the 25 if we did that. It looks like we're going to have to take the messy route with Daws but sadly it's the only way he's going to realise.

This is not how I imagine how Levy would want to play it, as it would drive Dawson's value right down. Better to tell a buyer they're getting your club captain, not 6th choice CB not even in the squad.

prawnsandwich · Aug 9, 2014

Tucker said:
I think Benny is a special case tbh, he's on the outside looking in really. Hasn't seemed part of the group and has been training on his own apparently. Unlike Dawson, he's not been linked to anyone, and there hasn't been a peep from the ITKs about him. I reckon he's going to be like Jenas, Bentley and Gomes, Levy won't let him leave for nothing, and no one wants to pay for him.

Gomes' quotes were a real insight. Levy would not budge from £6 mill. Seems dumb in relation to Gomes.
Seems smart in relation to Bale.
When he says he ain't budging-he ain't budging.

Greenspur · Aug 9, 2014

duffster said:
If this is a Dylan reference, it's 13th century

You are correct. My error - I got a bit tangled up.

prawnsandwich · Aug 9, 2014

Greenspur said:
You are correct. My error - I got a bit tangled up.

Do you feel blue?

goughie1966 · Aug 9, 2014

mrlilywhite said:
I think Dier had a good game, all things considered. I think you are way off on your assumption about Soldado though! He has already shown in pre-season that he is looking a lot better than most gave him credit for last season. I understand people's desire to state his lack of goals as a justified reason to get rid, but do you actually look at what he offers other than goals? We all bought into the out and out goalscorer, when we signed him, but not many actually bothered to see past that. I think he offers us something that Poch can see and utilise a lot more effectively than previous managers have thus far. If we just base his game as a greedy poacher, then we might as well just get defoe back. Watch him over this season, and then ask yourself if we have a better, more rounded Soldado than last season.

But wasn't the point of buying Soldado to score goals? I don't think we need another creative player playing off the striker/strikers. He's supposed to score goals. That's his job. If he's not going to be a striker and score goals and we're happy for him to be utilized elsewhere that means we're down to Ade and Harry for the season.

I want him to succeed as we all do. I do think he has real class. But what concerns me is the fact he can't do the one bloody thing we need him to do. The one he ballooned over the bar was appalling today and had that been Townsend or Lennon they'd have been castigated on here. He also mis-controlled a very good opportunity too.

The biggest concern for me today was the number of chances we missed. And against pretty poor opposition. We won't get this many chances against better sides. Everything else in the squad looks pretty good. Just wish we could find a goalscorer, but then isn't everybody!

prawnsandwich · Aug 9, 2014

In the USA Kane buried the same chance as was served up to Soldado today by Andros.
I think we will score bundles this year.
I am more worried about our defence. Dier and Kaboul will not get us 3 points against West Ham.

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