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Bus-Conductor

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"They should be made to".

Fuck me, mate, most of them are passing on info they probably shouldn't be for the BENEFIT of you and your addiction.

They've not got a payroll number.

We verify them. That should be (and is going to be) good enough.

Bit lame stoof. You know what I meant. We are all made aware of the site's protocol - sometimes with flashing popups reminding us - and none of us are on the "payroll".

I repeat, I believe the stance taken of zero analysis and questioning of all ITK is unhealthy and is more liable to create glory hunters and WUM's.

I merely meant they should be made aware of the protocol of fair analysis and treated accordingly.
 

EnfieldYiddo

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If you look at it cynically; it's all irrelevant. You could avoid this thread, casually see back page rumours and come this 3rd September, every Spurs fan will know the same as each other (barring some non-transfer related ITK we get) in the sense that who is and isn't a Spurs player.

We didn't achieve anything per se by knowing Soldado was coming a few days before everyone else (Aside from perhaps monetary gain for some of us).

I think in light of that we need to be less emotionally invested in what ITK's say. I think many on here are guilty at times of shooting the messenger due to the bearing of unfavourable news - I've done it before but I was quick to cut it out.

The summer is a very long and boring few months without football, let's not ruin something that provides most of us with an endless source of 'time-filling' material (y)
 

Bus-Conductor

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There are several but I'm thinking of one in particular who (with all due respect to JJ, etc) was a LOT closer to the info than anyone we've had since but because we couldn't tell people how close he was, he ended up getting a lot of questions/comments that made him stop in the end. I obviously can't say more but that's pretty much what instigated our current policy.

Don't worry, the mods put a lot of effort into discussing the ITKs, their inconsistencies, etc but doing that in public just doesn't work. It forces the ITKs to want to justify themselves but they often can't without giving stuff away and it puts them in an unfair position (e.g. they can't very well turn around and say "I know he's signed, my name's on the contract next to his!" :p)

If we think an ITK's info isn't stacking up then we'll talk to them about it (as we did with someone a few years back) and sort it out one way or another.


But there is always the goat Rob. And there is always ignoring questions. No ITK ever has to say anything he/she doesn't want to. And they definitely don't have to do it in their own name if they don't want to blow their status or take flak.
 

Rob

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I believe the stance taken of zero analysis and questioning of all ITK is unhealthy and is more liable to create glory hunters and WUM's.

You seem to be ignoring a very key point. The ITKs are analysed and questioned. By the mods. In private.

I hope he won't mind me using him as an example but some of LLM's info didn't seem to stack up at first and we've not been able to verify him yet. This is mainly because he has to be careful what info he gives to us and it makes it a bit difficult to verify him. For that reason he's not in the RO yet but he's continuing to give decent info and I'm sure will soon build up a track record of decent ITK which makes it much easier to believe him.

All of that's going on in private though and it wouldn't really help anything if people started questioning him in public or trying to work out who his source is and why it is or isn't consistent with other people.
 

Stoof

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There are several but I'm thinking of one in particular who (with all due respect to JJ, etc) was a LOT closer to the info than anyone we've had since but because we couldn't tell people how close he was, he ended up getting a lot of questions/comments that made him stop in the end. I obviously can't say more but that's pretty much what instigated our current policy.

Don't worry, the mods put a lot of effort into discussing the ITKs, their inconsistencies, etc but doing that in public just doesn't work. It forces the ITKs to want to justify themselves but they often can't without giving stuff away and it puts them in an unfair position (e.g. they can't very well turn around and say "I know he's signed, my name's on the contract next to his!" :p)

If we think an ITK's info isn't stacking up then we'll talk to them about it (as we did with someone a few years back) and sort it out one way or another.

IMTW :(
 

JJetset

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Just a quickie. Sorry I haven't read the previous 49 pages so I'm hoping that I don't say the same as everyone else. I did see the other ITK comments though.
All still happening but no fee has been agreed yet that is the latest as of tonight.
I would Love it to fall over but if not I'm also excited if this is stage 1 that the players in stage 2 happen.
 

Stoof

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Bit lame stoof. You know what I meant. We are all made aware of the site's protocol - sometimes with flashing popups reminding us - and none of us are on the "payroll".

I repeat, I believe the stance taken of zero analysis and questioning of all ITK is unhealthy and is more liable to create glory hunters and WUM's.

I merely meant they should be made aware of the protocol of fair analysis and treated accordingly.

Is this just because you'll never be ITK?

You can argue with us until you're blue in the face mate. And being a smurf, I know a lot about that.

You're simply not right mate, sorry. And that's where we have to draw the line on this.
 

Wazza

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If we are presuming things, then I presume you a) can read and b) enjoy your viewing and posting rights in this section. Don't let a) affect your b) - and maybe consider why I may have flagged your post as being a massive example of evidence that a) may be a false presumption.

All terribly interesting, but in fact presumption b) was incorrect.

I have literally no desire to continue "posting or viewing this section" or the website generally in fact, in circumstances where I can be insulted for expressing a logical opinion, only for you to get all princessy when I retort to your mindless comments.

It is quiet clear that this is website is dependent upon "ITK" to generate sufficient traffic to keep it going, and that's fine in itself, but you have forgotten the fact that it is a 'forum'. A forum for people to express their opinions, without being subjected to quite frankly idiotic and juvenile comments.

Oh, and don't worry, you won't need to get out "the ban stick out" (which is pathetic incidentally), as I will be deleting my account after this message, but feel free of course to do so anyway to save face, oh and of course, to give you the sexual release, which are no doubt few and far in between in the life of an Internet warrior.

All the best petal.
 

EnfieldYiddo

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Just a quickie. Sorry I haven't read the previous 49 pages so I'm hoping that I don't say the same as everyone else. I did see the other ITK comments though.
All still happening but no fee has been agreed yet that is the latest as of tonight.
I would Love it to fall over but if not I'm also excited if this is stage 1 that the players in stage 2 happen.

All a bit last minute though JJ. History suggests it won't all be wrapped up fast and our incomings certainly won't. This all should of been sorted weeks ago. Hey ho, I'm sure the incomings are exciting but will they be in time for season start, that's the question (rhetorical btw)
 

hugrr

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Aug 17, 2008
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Just a quickie. Sorry I haven't read the previous 49 pages so I'm hoping that I don't say the same as everyone else. I did see the other ITK comments though.
All still happening but no fee has been agreed yet that is the latest as of tonight.
I would Love it to fall over but if not I'm also excited if this is stage 1 that the players in stage 2 happen.
My only concern is whether the stage 2 players would see us as such an exciting prospect if we are without GB
 

thinktank

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Sep 28, 2004
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Just a quickie. Sorry I haven't read the previous 49 pages so I'm hoping that I don't say the same as everyone else. I did see the other ITK comments though.
All still happening but no fee has been agreed yet that is the latest as of tonight.
I would Love it to fall over but if not I'm also excited if this is stage 1 that the players in stage 2 happen.
Right on cue.

Can't see a fee being agreed ever, so wahay!!

Think DL's just gonna troll the fuck out of them and have fun watching them squirm and pump hot gas into the atmosphere via marca.
 

Stoof

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All terribly interesting, but in fact presumption b) was incorrect.

I have literally no desire to continue "posting or viewing this section" or the website generally in fact, in circumstances where I can be insulted for expressing a logical opinion, only for you to get all princessy when I retort to your mindless comments.

It is quiet clear that this is website is dependent upon "ITK" to generate sufficient traffic to keep it going, and that's fine in itself, but you have forgotten the fact that it is a 'forum'. A forum for people to express their opinions, without being subjected to quite frankly idiotic and juvenile comments.

Oh, and don't worry, you won't need to get out "the ban stick out" (which is pathetic incidentally), as I will be deleting my account after this message, but feel free of course to do so anyway to save face, oh and of course, to give you the sexual release, which are no doubt few and far in between in the life of an Internet warrior.

All the best petal.

*cums*
 

thinktank

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Sep 28, 2004
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All terribly interesting, but in fact presumption b) was incorrect.

I have literally no desire to continue "posting or viewing this section" or the website generally in fact, in circumstances where I can be insulted for expressing a logical opinion, only for you to get all princessy when I retort to your mindless comments.

It is quiet clear that this is website is dependent upon "ITK" to generate sufficient traffic to keep it going, and that's fine in itself, but you have forgotten the fact that it is a 'forum'. A forum for people to express their opinions, without being subjected to quite frankly idiotic and juvenile comments.

Oh, and don't worry, you won't need to get out "the ban stick out" (which is pathetic incidentally), as I will be deleting my account after this message, but feel free of course to do so anyway to save face, oh and of course, to give you the sexual release, which are no doubt few and far in between in the life of an Internet warrior.

All the best petal.

Surely if that were the case, we'd have it all year round...???
 

Jamturk

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Aug 13, 2008
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Just a quickie. Sorry I haven't read the previous 49 pages so I'm hoping that I don't say the same as everyone else. I did see the other ITK comments though.
All still happening but no fee has been agreed yet that is the latest as of tonight.
I would Love it to fall over but if not I'm also excited if this is stage 1 that the players in stage 2 happen.

Well either way sounds positive. Quite intrigued what stage 2 entails
 

Rob

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Jun 8, 2003
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It is quiet clear that this is website is dependent upon "ITK" to generate sufficient traffic to keep it going, and that's fine in itself, but you have forgotten the fact that it is a 'forum'.

Exactly the opposite. Without all the traffic from the ITK, we'd be able to host the site on a £50/month server and not a £400/month server. We go to a lot of effort (and cost) to provide a platform for the ITK on here and it's quite annoying to read stuff like that when frankly things would be MUCH easier for us if we didn't bother.
 

Sandro30

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Just a quickie. Sorry I haven't read the previous 49 pages so I'm hoping that I don't say the same as everyone else. I did see the other ITK comments though.
All still happening but no fee has been agreed yet that is the latest as of tonight.
I would Love it to fall over but if not I'm also excited if this is stage 1 that the players in stage 2 happen.
All seems to late for me JJ, sounds like a deal isn't happening anytime soon, which probably means the second half of august which leaves us 2 weeks maximum to replace him? surely asking too much and DL will realise this. Won't be much time for negotiating.
 
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