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dbspurs

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Lloris, (Friedel) ,Schmeichel, Archer

No need for changes here unless Brad feels like he wants to retire. Schmeichel looks a top keeper though not sure if he would want to be a number 2

I would tell Lloris and Vertonghen to sign a contract extension and if we don't make Champions League next season then we will look at offers.

Walker, Naughton

Santon/Ben Davies, Fryers (Assou Ekotto)

I would like to get a new LB (not a fan of Rose) but im not sure who is available and at what price. Santon and Davies could be good options at possibly a reasonable price but are they better than an on form Ekotto.

Vertonghen, Chriches, Kaboul (Retiring??), Lescott/Caulker/Curtis Davies/Veljkovic

I think this all depends on Kaboul retiring or not. If he is staying then i would promote Veljkovic to 4th choice and leave it at that. If he is retiring then i would look to promote Veljkovic and bring in one of the three names above. Have been impressed with Curtis Davies at Hull this year and they have not conceded many goals for a team fighting relegation.

Sandro, Capoue, Holtby, Paulinho, Eriksen, ?????

In term of midfielders i'm not sure that we could upgrade without paying a lot of money for someone. I'm not crazy about Bentaleb to be honest and patience with Dembele wears a bit thin at times. Would give Paulinho another season and hope he comes good.

I would like to see Holtby given a good run next year to link up with Eriksen, Chadli and Lamela. I have left the 6th spot open because i'm not sure whether to give Carroll a go, splash some money on a top talent like Lallana or bring in somone who would be priced more reasonable like Fabian Delph at Villa or Ki at Sunderland. Ki in particular has impressed me this season and looks to have it all.

Lamela, Chadli, Johnson

I would be looking to sell Lennon and Townsend as i don't think they are good enough for us. Their measly assist and goal rates this season are pathetic for a team looking to be in the top 4.

We would stand a good chance of getting Johnson this summer as i don't think any of the top teams will be going for him (except maybe United )

Adebayor, Soldado, Remy (Kane)

I'm not sure we need another forward but if we can get Remy then that would be great.

We all know Adebayor's qualities and i think Soldado, goals aside, contributes greatly to our overall play. Kane has looked promising in his few appearances this season and i think he could come on a bit more next year (maybe a loan to another EPL team).

IN

Schmeichel
Davies/Santon
Lescott/Caulker/Davies
Ki/Delph
Johnson
Remy

OUT

Freidel
Ekotto
Dawson
Rose
Dembele
Bentaleb (Loan)
Carroll (Loan)
Lennon
Townsend
Sigurdsson
Kane (Loan)
 

bceej

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Lloris, Archer
Walker, Fredericks
Vertonghen, Kaboul, Chiriches, Lescott
Rose, Rodriguez
Sandro, Capoue
Holtby, Paulinho, Bentaleb
Lamela, Shaqiri
Eriksen, Pritchard
Townsend, Chadli
Soldado, Adebayor, Lacazette, Kane

Bolds in.

Still one space there I think...attacking midfielders all very versatile so not necessarily contending over each wing slot.

If the italics leave for whatever reason:
Asmir Begovic
Inigo Martinez
Morgan Schneiderlin
Aleksandar Mitrovic


Think we'd be pretty solid.
 

Blake Griffin

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Lloris, (Friedel) ,Schmeichel, Archer

No need for changes here unless Brad feels like he wants to retire. Schmeichel looks a top keeper though not sure if he would want to be a number 2

I would tell Lloris and Vertonghen to sign a contract extension and if we don't make Champions League next season then we will look at offers.

Walker, Naughton

Santon/Ben Davies, Fryers (Assou Ekotto)

I would like to get a new LB (not a fan of Rose) but im not sure who is available and at what price. Santon and Davies could be good options at possibly a reasonable price but are they better than an on form Ekotto.

Vertonghen, Chriches, Kaboul (Retiring??), Lescott/Caulker/Curtis Davies/Veljkovic

I think this all depends on Kaboul retiring or not. If he is staying then i would promote Veljkovic to 4th choice and leave it at that. If he is retiring then i would look to promote Veljkovic and bring in one of the three names above. Have been impressed with Curtis Davies at Hull this year and they have not conceded many goals for a team fighting relegation.

Sandro, Capoue, Holtby, Paulinho, Eriksen, ?????

In term of midfielders i'm not sure that we could upgrade without paying a lot of money for someone. I'm not crazy about Bentaleb to be honest and patience with Dembele wears a bit thin at times. Would give Paulinho another season and hope he comes good.

I would like to see Holtby given a good run next year to link up with Eriksen, Chadli and Lamela. I have left the 6th spot open because i'm not sure whether to give Carroll a go, splash some money on a top talent like Lallana or bring in somone who would be priced more reasonable like Fabian Delph at Villa or Ki at Sunderland. Ki in particular has impressed me this season and looks to have it all.

Lamela, Chadli, Johnson

I would be looking to sell Lennon and Townsend as i don't think they are good enough for us. Their measly assist and goal rates this season are pathetic for a team looking to be in the top 4.

We would stand a good chance of getting Johnson this summer as i don't think any of the top teams will be going for him (except maybe United )

Adebayor, Soldado, Remy (Kane)

I'm not sure we need another forward but if we can get Remy then that would be great.

We all know Adebayor's qualities and i think Soldado, goals aside, contributes greatly to our overall play. Kane has looked promising in his few appearances this season and i think he could come on a bit more next year (maybe a loan to another EPL team).

IN

Schmeichel
Davies/Santon
Lescott/Caulker/Davies
Ki/Delph
Johnson
Remy

OUT

Freidel
Ekotto
Dawson
Rose
Dembele
Bentaleb (Loan)
Carroll (Loan)
Lennon
Townsend
Sigurdsson
Kane (Loan)

no offence but that is a very underwhelming set of players you want us to sign, makes me feel like we've gone back in time 10 years.
 

DaSpurs

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Lloris, Archer
Walker, Fredericks
Vertonghen, Kaboul, Chiriches, Lescott
Rose, Rodriguez
Sandro, Capoue
Holtby, Paulinho, Bentaleb
Lamela, Shaqiri
Eriksen, Pritchard
Townsend, Chadli
Soldado, Adebayor, Lacazette, Kane

Bolds in.

Still one space there I think...attacking midfielders all very versatile so not necessarily contending over each wing slot.

If the italics leave for whatever reason:
Asmir Begovic
Inigo Martinez
Morgan Schneiderlin
Aleksandar Mitrovic


Think we'd be pretty solid.

Just a couple quips:
1) You've not addressed our greatest need, LW.
2) Shaqiri? Extremely optimistic, amigo.
 

bceej

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Just a couple quips:
1) You've not addressed our greatest need, LW.
2) Shaqiri? Extremely optimistic, amigo.

I think Townsend and Chadli will do fine there, blend of cutting in and natural winger in those two. Shaqiri only because he doesn't seem to be getting the minutes at Bayern and could be our marquee signing of the summer. Would be our Hazard style drive that we miss at the moment. Could even be a loan move, or a similar move to Emre Can's to Leverkusen.
 

dbspurs

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no offence but that is a very underwhelming set of players you want us to sign, makes me feel like we've gone back in time 10 years.

None taken.(y)

Do you not think they are good players? All Premership proven and obtainable with no settling in period.

That was our problem this season. We bought 7 players who had never played a minute of EPL football and look what has happened.

Was trying to think of realistically obtainable players in those positions costing £7-12M (no way Levy will be spending more than about £12m on any player after last summer) each who i could be fairly certain would be able to slot in without a problem?
 

TheGreenLily

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Mine would be, in a 4-3-3

ALM --------- CF --------- ARM

ACM ------------- ACM
DM

LB ----- CB ----- CB ----- RB

GK​

Goalkeepers:
Lloris?
Gomes
Archer
GK?

Defenders:
Vertonghen? - LCB
Vlad - RCB
Veljkovic - CB
Walker - RB
Fredericks - RB
New LB
New LB
New CB
CB?

Midfielders:
Sandro - DM
Capoue - DM
Bentaleb - ACM (box to box)
Eriksen - ACM
Chadli - ALM
Lamela - ARM
Paulinho - ACM (Box to box)
Holtby - ACM
Pritchard - ?
Cellebos -ARM/ALM
Carroll - ACM
New ALM?

Strikers:
Soldado
Kane
Coulibaly/Coulthirst

Manager - LVG, plenty of youth for him to develop too.

Sell, Retire:
Friedel (retired), Kaboul (if he don't retire), Dawson, BAE, Rose, Naughton, Dembele, Lennon, Townsend, Siggy, Verts?, Lloris?.
 
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Blake Griffin

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None taken.(y)

Do you not think they are good players? All Premership proven and obtainable with no settling in period.

That was our problem this season. We bought 7 players who had never played a minute of EPL football and look what has happened.

Was trying to think of realistically obtainable players in those positions costing £7-12M (no way Levy will be spending more than about £12m on any player after last summer) each who i could be fairly certain would be able to slot in without a problem?

i think they're probably all decent enough players but none that are going to improve on what we have. ben davies' name gets mentioned a lot around here but a lot of swansea fans aren't entirely convinced by him and i've seen santon gets ripped to shreds fairly often too - i'll also never be comfortable with a right footed left back. i don't see either as an improvement on danny rose and believe after the new signing shine has worn off we'd only be looking for a replacement. lescott/caulker/c.davies are all ok, i wouldn't particularly describe any as being outstanding, i wouldn't have sold caulker(i'd've sold dawson) but at the same time i wasn't gutted to see him go, chiriches is far superior imo. i like ki and delph, i'd happily swap paulinho(who i just really cannot take to) for either but even then it's not going to significantly improve us. adam johnson i do not like, he's hit a bit of a purple patch recently but he's just not a player who impresses me, not good enough. remy, whilst not top class, would be a decent versatile player to have i think.

i just look at those names and it makes me feel like we're back in 2004, hanging around 10th place whilst trying to add players who might lift us to europa contention. we're better than that now and should aim higher. i do agree that we should look towards pl proven players but only if they're actually going to improve us - last summer i think we should've looked towards the likes of cabaye and benteke for example to counterbalance all of the non-pl signings we were making.
 

DaSpurs

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I think Townsend and Chadli will do fine there, blend of cutting in and natural winger in those two. Shaqiri only because he doesn't seem to be getting the minutes at Bayern and could be our marquee signing of the summer. Would be our Hazard style drive that we miss at the moment. Could even be a loan move, or a similar move to Emre Can's to Leverkusen.

Chadli has proven rather ineffective on that side, as well as Townsend as he's clearly more comfortable and effective on the right. I like keeping Townsend so he can provide cover on that left if need be, but we're going to need a better inverted winger on that right side. That situation is so bad Timmy's clearly given up on it as we've just been playing better players out of position there all season.

Shaqiri would be great, and it's true the situation is not ideal for him, but players getting even small amounts of minutes at Munich won't be looking for a club sans CL. There's a chance by the logic you suggest, but I'd say it's quite slim.
 

wiggo24

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Manger : Louis Van Gaal

Lloris
Schmeichel
Freidel
Archer

Walker
Naughton
Fredericks
Vertonghen
Kaboul (??)
Chiriches
Dawson
Lescott
R.Rodriguez

Rose

Lamela
Townsend

Paulinho
Sandro
Holtby
Kovacic
Capoue
Eriksen
Bentaleb


Chadli
Konoplyanka

Soldado
Ade
Kane.

Ins: Schmiechel, Lescott, Rodriguez, Kovacic and Konoplyanka ( all under 15m)

Outs : Lennon, Dembele, BAE.

With a top quality manager like LVG, that squad would maintain strength in depth and continuity, while also adressing the key weaknesses. Continuity is key imo.

NB- Would adore Lukaku be doubt that would happen.
 

DaSpurs

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Manger : Louis Van Gaal

Lloris
Schmeichel
Freidel
Archer

Walker
Naughton
Fredericks
Vertonghen
Kaboul (??)
Chiriches
Dawson
Lescott
R.Rodriguez

Rose

Lamela
Townsend

Paulinho
Sandro
Holtby
Kovacic
Capoue
Eriksen
Bentaleb


Chadli
Konoplyanka

Soldado
Ade
Kane.

Ins: Schmiechel, Lescott, Rodriguez, Kovacic and Konoplyanka ( all under 15m)

Outs : Lennon, Dembele, BAE.

With a top quality manager like LVG, that squad would maintain strength in depth and continuity, while also adressing the key weaknesses. Continuity is key imo.

NB- Would adore Lukaku be doubt that would happen.

I dig this. Only thing I'd change would be to sell Paulinho to fund our moves, and that's it. Also really like the prospect of us moving for Micah Richards if not for Lescott. Young (for a CB), HG, underrated IMO, and can provide cover at a couple positions.
 

dbspurs

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i think they're probably all decent enough players but none that are going to improve on what we have. ben davies' name gets mentioned a lot around here but a lot of swansea fans aren't entirely convinced by him and i've seen santon gets ripped to shreds fairly often too - i'll also never be comfortable with a right footed left back. i don't see either as an improvement on danny rose and believe after the new signing shine has worn off we'd only be looking for a replacement. lescott/caulker/c.davies are all ok, i wouldn't particularly describe any as being outstanding, i wouldn't have sold caulker(i'd've sold dawson) but at the same time i wasn't gutted to see him go, chiriches is far superior imo. i like ki and delph, i'd happily swap paulinho(who i just really cannot take to) for either but even then it's not going to significantly improve us. adam johnson i do not like, he's hit a bit of a purple patch recently but he's just not a player who impresses me, not good enough. remy, whilst not top class, would be a decent versatile player to have i think.

i just look at those names and it makes me feel like we're back in 2004, hanging around 10th place whilst trying to add players who might lift us to europa contention. we're better than that now and should aim higher. i do agree that we should look towards pl proven players but only if they're actually going to improve us - last summer i think we should've looked towards the likes of cabaye and benteke for example to counterbalance all of the non-pl signings we were making.

I agree with Benteke and would also like to see us go for Lukaku but just not sure that Danny boy is going to spend upwards of £20m on one player after getting his fingers burned on Soldado and Lamela (though they may still justify the investment).
 

beats1

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The word in the thread title is Realistic?

Mangala, Mandzukic, Shaw, Strootman? Without CL and CL windfall and no £100m player to cash in?

Same with Liverpool fans. Kroos? Benzema? Get real.

It seems both sets of fans like to play Footy Manager and mix it up with reality as if its that simple.

Mangala will be going to City for upwards of £30m according to Julien Laurens and they nearly got him in Jan. So both our clubs can forget about him.

The LB Rodriguez is being scouted by every top European club on a weekly basis they said on the Euro Footy Show on BT Sport so the cats out the bag on that one too, plus he'd cost a fortune. That young Spanish LB at Sevilla (Moreno?) would be a better bet for both our clubs.

The only clubs that can afford Shaw are Utd, City and Chavs (unless he wants to go abroad which I don't think he does) and he's a massive CFC fan - who desperately need a new long-term LB so no worried about playing regularly - so both LFC and Spurs can forget that.

I'm not even dignifying Mandzukic or Kroos with a response.

Saints won't sell Lallana for anything less than £25m their local paper says and with him being Captain, a local lad, and been there all his footballing career they don't expect him to be going anywhere so with both them points in mind I can't see him moving this Summer unless City/Chavs/Utd came steaming in with ridiculous barrows of money.

Konoplyanka will go to whichever club has best chance of guaranteed CL and not just qualifying for the qualifier. A lot of clubs are after him now due to his cheapness as his contract is entering its last year. If LFC came 3rd I think its pretty likely he'll be off their unless one of the big money teams came in.

The last thing that amuses me is seeing both Liverpool and some Spurs fans advocating for their clubs to bring in a min of 7/8/9+ players in Summer, despite everything the people who know about football have said about Spurs brining in too many signings all at once and the consequences of this on team cohesion and gelling as a team. Imo, both clubs should be looking at 3 first teamers tops, then another in Jan if necessary.
If you look at our finances everything suggests we could spend alot of money again

We are known to be a club to break even every year and this season we have:
Made a profit of £10million or more
Cut down the wage bill
Increased money made by our main sponsor
Increased our other deals
Earned an extra £30 to 40mill from tv money.

So this should be a big window depending on the manager

As for your 7 signings, its worth noting that out of our 7 signings, one has been injured for a season, the other two CMs have been injured and behind a youth player, eriksen wasn't played much under AVB, Chiriches has had a good season but missed half a season and Chadli hasn't played much either.

Yes we were foolish to try and settle 7 players but if you think our problem has been poor signings then you cant really say anything. Other than Chiriches, Soldado and Paulinho the team has been the same since last year and the issue was deeper than signings. If you want to believe these retarded commentators who have their heads up their own arses and assess a team over 5 min highlights every week go ahead.
 

yankspurs

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If you look at our finances everything suggests we could spend alot of money again

We are known to be a club to break even every year and this season we have:
Made a profit of £10million or more
Cut down the wage bill
Increased money made by our main sponsor
Increased our other deals
Earned an extra £30 to 40mill from tv money.

So this should be a big window depending on the manager

As for your 7 signings, its worth noting that out of our 7 signings, one has been injured for a season, the other two CMs have been injured and behind a youth player, eriksen wasn't played much under AVB, Chiriches has had a good season but missed half a season and Chadli hasn't played much either.

Yes we were foolish to try and settle 7 players but if you think our problem has been poor signings then you cant really say anything. Other than Chiriches, Soldado and Paulinho the team has been the same since last year and the issue was deeper than signings. If you want to believe these retarded commentators who have their heads up their own arses and assess a team over 5 min highlights every week go ahead.
Love the optimism. But, Daniel Levy.
 

beats1

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Love the optimism. But, Daniel Levy.
True but the money has to go somewhere and Levy has always spent money to break even rather to make a profit. Look at the the old accounts ;)

Also the stadium is supposedly being funded separately
 

yankspurs

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True but the money has to go somewhere and Levy has always spent money to break even rather to make a profit. Look at the the old accounts ;)

Also the stadium is supposedly being funded separately
Daniel has a history of spending the exact amount of money he makes from sales.
 

beats1

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Daniel has a history of spending the exact amount of money he makes from sales.
No he hasn't, he spends to break even.

Look at the accounts and he has always backed a manager. He has either spent big in the transfer market(£30million or there about each season or spent big on wages). Since harry came it has gone from £20 or more million net loss to break even with extra £30million on wages!
 

Snarfalicious

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I think people will be shocked by what a new, capable manager will mean to our club. To me, bring in LVG and everything else is gravy. We've got a shit ton of talent on this squad and I truly believe that. Yes, we have some holes we need to fill with some additions, but the biggest need that we have is a manager capable of getting his tactics across but also able to influence matches with intellect and proactive (not reactive) substitutions and changes.
 

ILS

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I'm quite surprised more people haven't said we need a deep lying playmaker. For me along with a new left back is the most crucial position we lack since modric left. We need to buy someone who has the ability to move the ball quickly from back to front and out to the wingers. At the moment we have no rhythm and are too predictable.
 
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