Yiddo100
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It’s not even an extra sponsor though is it?
It’s literally just replacing the Nike logo with the air Jordan one.
Will FFP finally put spurs where they belong?
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It’s literally just replacing the Nike logo with the air Jordan one.
robertgoulet
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And most would argue a more "premium" brand.
E17yid
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Give it time.
Nah only joking, don’t really give a shit as long as they leave the chicken badge alone.
tommyt
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Real Madrid leapfrog Manchester City to top Deloitte Football Money League
The Spanish giants return to the summit with £723m in club revenue, while Liverpool drop from third to seventh – the biggest fall in the top 20
www.theguardian.com
Interesting reading
Frozen_Waffles
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Definitely...Real Madrid leapfrog Manchester City to top Deloitte Football Money League
The Spanish giants return to the summit with £723m in club revenue, while Liverpool drop from third to seventh – the biggest fall in the top 20
Interesting reading
We had champions league here until the latter stages, but still, very impressive.
If we can go back to Champions league again and if we continue to exploit our stadium and keep our wage bill reasnoble we could challenge United and Liverpool in future seasons financially. A pipe dream 10 years ago.
City (champions league and league) covers a lot of there money here as well.
I know it's a money league but if we take off the state owned we're up there with the biggest clubs in the world.
It's not a stretch to say we could even be near the top in future years.
Daniel Levy (and Enic) need to take a bow. The progress on and off the pitch in recent seasons has been nothing short of spectacular.
SirHarryHotspur
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Another impressive financial performance by the club , 8th highest on revenue not necessarily 8th richest. Stadium paying dividends on matchday revenue, just compare it with some of our competitors.
www2.deloitte.com
Deloitte Football Money League 2024
The 27th edition of the Deloitte Football Money League profiles the highest revenue generating clubs in world football over the 2022/23 season.
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purplemonkey
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This analysis from the BBC on the Deloitte Football Money League isn’t specific to Spurs but it encapsulates and validates Levy’s vision entirely:
“As clubs appear to no longer be able to rely on exponential broadcast revenue growth, creating a more commercially focused business model will support them to achieve greater control over their financial stability.
In the coming seasons, European clubs may look to further diversify their revenues in order to gain control over a larger proportion of their total revenue. This will enable clubs to not only protect themselves from the variability of on-pitch performance, but also wider challenging macroeconomic conditions and changes to the football system.
At a time when clubs face a greater degree of financial regulation, striking the right balance between securing the best on-pitch talent with sustaining a sound financial foundation through commercial activities will be key.”
“As clubs appear to no longer be able to rely on exponential broadcast revenue growth, creating a more commercially focused business model will support them to achieve greater control over their financial stability.
In the coming seasons, European clubs may look to further diversify their revenues in order to gain control over a larger proportion of their total revenue. This will enable clubs to not only protect themselves from the variability of on-pitch performance, but also wider challenging macroeconomic conditions and changes to the football system.
At a time when clubs face a greater degree of financial regulation, striking the right balance between securing the best on-pitch talent with sustaining a sound financial foundation through commercial activities will be key.”
mil1lion
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I'm sure the F1 karting now being open will also keep us going up on revenue too. I love how we've done it in a more organic way as well. Albeit it's just a really long project but it feels we're finally at the tail end now and enjoying the benefits. Levy has spoken about ffp issues before and at this moment in time he may well have been on the money. The market is seemingly a bit restricted for some of the other big spenders. The fact we're competing around the top 4 with room to manoeuvre in the window puts us in a great position.
SirHarryHotspur
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Little wonder we are bringing in the money and due to financial prudence by Levy have few FFP worries.
Just had a look at the Arsenal home match for premium seats available on the Spurs ticket site, at the moment one seat available block 119 row 8 right next to the away fans for the price of £849 !!!!!! any takers.
• Access 3 hours pre-match & 2 hours post-match • Bowl food & grazing menu served throughout pre-match • Inclusive selected beers, wines, spirits & soft drinks pre-match • Live entertainment with Club Legends pre-match • Match seats in the home end - Guests showing visible support of the away team risk ejection
Just had a look at the Arsenal home match for premium seats available on the Spurs ticket site, at the moment one seat available block 119 row 8 right next to the away fans for the price of £849 !!!!!! any takers.
• Access 3 hours pre-match & 2 hours post-match • Bowl food & grazing menu served throughout pre-match • Inclusive selected beers, wines, spirits & soft drinks pre-match • Live entertainment with Club Legends pre-match • Match seats in the home end - Guests showing visible support of the away team risk ejection
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vegassd
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I'm not even sure we can call it the tail end yet. Levy has taken the view that the club needs to be financially sustainable, so the mission of increasing revenues should be an ongoing one.
Like you, I'm really happy that the progress has been self-funded, and for me that means it's something we can be proud of as fans - even those who hate Levy with a passion! We have been competing at the top of the table throughout (almost) and have overtaken both Chelsea and Arsenal in terms of revenue. There's obviously no trophy for that, but it bodes well for the future.
The money is just one side of course - it has to translate to performance on the pitch for it to really mean anything. But lots of things to be positive about at the moment I would say.
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Westmorlandspur
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Champ lge changes next season, 4 home games guaranteed, prize money rocketing.
We need to be there and we will be. Very good chance of top 5 for CL.
We need to be there and we will be. Very good chance of top 5 for CL.
Westmorlandspur
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We can only really compare ourselves to Arsenal and Liverpool. City and Chelsea are in another world financially and United are just a money machine.
Although PSR might just kill Chelsea off by this time next year.
We must aim for regular CL and the rest will take care of itself.
vegassd
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It's an ever-changing scenario though isn't it. Those numbers were for a season when we were in the CL, so whilst our wage bill for this year may well have gone down, we will almost definitely be looking at a decrease in broadcast & match day revenue I imagine. But it's healthy either way.
The good thing is that we aren't forced into a position of needing to sell players simply to balance the books.
What a day that will be!
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Athletic Article on Financial Results Little bit about us
The story goes that the Premier League is inexorably grinding its European rivals into the dirt, hoovering up revenues and ruthlessly asserting its financial strength.
A summer transfer window can entrench that narrative when Sheffield United can spend as much as Borussia Dortmund while Brentford are matching Inter Milan, but at the very top, there are still the old powerhouses that English football cannot subdue.
The European establishment fights on and, as Deloitte’s Football Money League 2024 underlines with its publication today, the Premier League’s biggest clubs can still find continental opponents mining greater revenue streams.
None more so than Real Madrid, who returned to the top of the club rankings for money generated last season. Despite relinquishing their La Liga and Champions League crowns in an underwhelming campaign, the Spanish giants turned over a record €831.4million (£723m; $921m) in 2022-23 to jump back above Manchester City (€825.9m) in what was a treble-winning season for Pep Guardiola’s side.
Paris Saint-Germain (€801.8m), who have never previously made the top three, and Barcelona (€800.1m) were following closely behind, while Manchester United, who led the way in Deloitte’s numbers as recently as 2017, are fifth with €745.8m. The advantage held over Bayern Munich (€744m) in sixth is narrow.
Then come the rest of the Premier League’s ‘Big Six’ _ Liverpool, Tottenham Hotspur, Chelsea and Arsenal, in that order — but last season turned out to be one where European clubs began to make up lost ground.
Only eight Premier League clubs are included in the top 20 for 2022-23, as opposed to 11 in 2021-22, with Italy, Germany and France all increasing their representation in the elite group. The biggest financial gains were all made by European clubs, with Napoli (71 per cent increase), AC Milan (50 per cent) and Eintracht Frankfurt (41 per cent) all seeing their revenues balloon, thanks largely to progress made in European competitions.
Newcastle United have begun their inevitable ascent up the rankings under Saudi Arabian owners, climbing from 20th to 17th after building income from €212.2m to €287.8m (an increase of 36 per cent), but of the three clubs from the top 20 who saw revenues contract last season, two were English. Liverpool (three per cent decrease) and West Ham United (nine per cent) made less money year on year. Chelsea, meanwhile, saw only marginal growth when increasing revenues by four per cent during the first season shorn of Roman Abramovich’s support as owner.
Arsenal, Tottenham, and Manchester City could all point to a bottom line that included an additional €100m or so of revenue last season, but Paris Saint-Germain, Barcelona and Real Madrid found greater improvements still. Real Madrid’s turnover of €831.4m was made all the more impressive by a backdrop of renovation work at the Santiago Bernabeu Stadium, limiting matchday revenues to €122m.
Europe’s biggest clubs are still keeping pace with those in the Premier League, thanks largely to their commercial might. Bayern Munich, whose slick off-field operation yielded €419m inside 12 months, led the way for commercial income, ahead of Barcelona, Real Madrid and PSG, who last season had the benefit of the Lionel Messi factor during that loveless spell in the French capital.
Manchester City, whose commercial income was reported as €399m, remain the best in Premier League class, ahead of Manchester United and Liverpool. And it is necessary; City’s matchday revenue is still not high enough to make Europe’s top 10. Tottenham have never had it so good on that front, with €135m made through matchdays, second only to Manchester United (€151m) in the Premier League.
Commercial revenue, though, is increasingly king across Europe. In a season that saw broadcast revenues only increase by five per cent for Europe’s top 20 clubs combined, largely owing to stagnating TV markets on the continent, commercial income totalled €4.4bn in 2022-23 to again stand as the greatest revenue stream across the board.
Not since 2015-16, barring the Covid-19-impacted season of 2019-20, has that been the case. Matchday income also saw a notable leap after the interruptions of a pandemic were declared over, climbing from €1.4bn in 2021-22 to €1.9bn last season. Thirteen of the top 20 clubs, says Deloitte, reported record matchday revenue in 2022-23.
Tim Bridge, lead partner in Deloitte’s Sports Business Group, sees a changing pattern. “A high demand for live sport is pointing towards further growth for commercial and matchday revenues in particular,” he says.
“As clubs appear to no longer be able to rely on exponential broadcast revenue growth, creating a more commercially focused business model will support them to achieve greater control over their financial stability. This may include developing new merchandise or non-matchday events, such as concerts, to create new commercial offerings.
“In the coming seasons, European clubs may look to further diversify their revenues to gain control over a larger proportion of their total revenue.”
What cannot be in doubt is that this remains football’s boom era. The total revenues of the top 20 European clubs has climbed to €10.5bn, which equates to a 14 per cent jump from 2021-22. It is also almost double the figure Deloitte returned in the 2012-13 season, when a top 20 that included Galatasaray and Fenerbahce, the two Turkish giants, was generating just €5.4bn.
The Premier League’s monstrous TV deals have been the greatest force in driving that growth. They are why the clubs lined up below the top 20 depict a gathering of the nouveau riche. Brighton & Hove Albion remain 23rd in the Money League, and Fulham, who finished 10th last season in their return to the Premier League, are 26th. Leeds United, now a Championship club, are 27th.
With Aston Villa (21st), Crystal Palace (28th) and Everton (30th), there are 14 English clubs in Europe’s top 30. The next best? Italy, with five. None of those, however, can currently make the top 10.
It is there, what lies beneath the top 20, that best illustrates the shift towards the Premier League’s financial dominance, but those at the top of European football still know how to make a buck or two.
A summer transfer window can entrench that narrative when Sheffield United can spend as much as Borussia Dortmund while Brentford are matching Inter Milan, but at the very top, there are still the old powerhouses that English football cannot subdue.
The European establishment fights on and, as Deloitte’s Football Money League 2024 underlines with its publication today, the Premier League’s biggest clubs can still find continental opponents mining greater revenue streams.
None more so than Real Madrid, who returned to the top of the club rankings for money generated last season. Despite relinquishing their La Liga and Champions League crowns in an underwhelming campaign, the Spanish giants turned over a record €831.4million (£723m; $921m) in 2022-23 to jump back above Manchester City (€825.9m) in what was a treble-winning season for Pep Guardiola’s side.
Paris Saint-Germain (€801.8m), who have never previously made the top three, and Barcelona (€800.1m) were following closely behind, while Manchester United, who led the way in Deloitte’s numbers as recently as 2017, are fifth with €745.8m. The advantage held over Bayern Munich (€744m) in sixth is narrow.
Then come the rest of the Premier League’s ‘Big Six’ _ Liverpool, Tottenham Hotspur, Chelsea and Arsenal, in that order — but last season turned out to be one where European clubs began to make up lost ground.
Only eight Premier League clubs are included in the top 20 for 2022-23, as opposed to 11 in 2021-22, with Italy, Germany and France all increasing their representation in the elite group. The biggest financial gains were all made by European clubs, with Napoli (71 per cent increase), AC Milan (50 per cent) and Eintracht Frankfurt (41 per cent) all seeing their revenues balloon, thanks largely to progress made in European competitions.
Newcastle United have begun their inevitable ascent up the rankings under Saudi Arabian owners, climbing from 20th to 17th after building income from €212.2m to €287.8m (an increase of 36 per cent), but of the three clubs from the top 20 who saw revenues contract last season, two were English. Liverpool (three per cent decrease) and West Ham United (nine per cent) made less money year on year. Chelsea, meanwhile, saw only marginal growth when increasing revenues by four per cent during the first season shorn of Roman Abramovich’s support as owner.
Arsenal, Tottenham, and Manchester City could all point to a bottom line that included an additional €100m or so of revenue last season, but Paris Saint-Germain, Barcelona and Real Madrid found greater improvements still. Real Madrid’s turnover of €831.4m was made all the more impressive by a backdrop of renovation work at the Santiago Bernabeu Stadium, limiting matchday revenues to €122m.
Europe’s biggest clubs are still keeping pace with those in the Premier League, thanks largely to their commercial might. Bayern Munich, whose slick off-field operation yielded €419m inside 12 months, led the way for commercial income, ahead of Barcelona, Real Madrid and PSG, who last season had the benefit of the Lionel Messi factor during that loveless spell in the French capital.
Manchester City, whose commercial income was reported as €399m, remain the best in Premier League class, ahead of Manchester United and Liverpool. And it is necessary; City’s matchday revenue is still not high enough to make Europe’s top 10. Tottenham have never had it so good on that front, with €135m made through matchdays, second only to Manchester United (€151m) in the Premier League.
Commercial revenue, though, is increasingly king across Europe. In a season that saw broadcast revenues only increase by five per cent for Europe’s top 20 clubs combined, largely owing to stagnating TV markets on the continent, commercial income totalled €4.4bn in 2022-23 to again stand as the greatest revenue stream across the board.
Not since 2015-16, barring the Covid-19-impacted season of 2019-20, has that been the case. Matchday income also saw a notable leap after the interruptions of a pandemic were declared over, climbing from €1.4bn in 2021-22 to €1.9bn last season. Thirteen of the top 20 clubs, says Deloitte, reported record matchday revenue in 2022-23.
Tim Bridge, lead partner in Deloitte’s Sports Business Group, sees a changing pattern. “A high demand for live sport is pointing towards further growth for commercial and matchday revenues in particular,” he says.
“As clubs appear to no longer be able to rely on exponential broadcast revenue growth, creating a more commercially focused business model will support them to achieve greater control over their financial stability. This may include developing new merchandise or non-matchday events, such as concerts, to create new commercial offerings.
“In the coming seasons, European clubs may look to further diversify their revenues to gain control over a larger proportion of their total revenue.”
What cannot be in doubt is that this remains football’s boom era. The total revenues of the top 20 European clubs has climbed to €10.5bn, which equates to a 14 per cent jump from 2021-22. It is also almost double the figure Deloitte returned in the 2012-13 season, when a top 20 that included Galatasaray and Fenerbahce, the two Turkish giants, was generating just €5.4bn.
The Premier League’s monstrous TV deals have been the greatest force in driving that growth. They are why the clubs lined up below the top 20 depict a gathering of the nouveau riche. Brighton & Hove Albion remain 23rd in the Money League, and Fulham, who finished 10th last season in their return to the Premier League, are 26th. Leeds United, now a Championship club, are 27th.
With Aston Villa (21st), Crystal Palace (28th) and Everton (30th), there are 14 English clubs in Europe’s top 30. The next best? Italy, with five. None of those, however, can currently make the top 10.
It is there, what lies beneath the top 20, that best illustrates the shift towards the Premier League’s financial dominance, but those at the top of European football still know how to make a buck or two.
SirHarryHotspur
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Not saying we can catch United financially but our commercial growth percentage wise is increasing at a faster rate than Utd , our matchday income per person is greater than Utd but with 75,000 stadium they will always earn more . Have to look for more stadium income , sure Levy and directors have more in the pipeline. Regular CL qualification will grow the club even more so that is the aim , an FA cup on the way would be good.
Westmorlandspur
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People forget when Man Utd just came along and took Carrick and Berbatov, Madrid for Bale and Modric.
We had to sell them . A new stadium was a must . Now starting to pay off
Westmorlandspur
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Surprised how well we have done with commercial income . Well ahead of Arsenal.