What our opponents' fans are saying

[ThorntonSpur]

chatting to a couple of my mates who follow the baggies and they seem to think berahino will join spurs

 

[tony0379]

From Villa Talk on Adebayor:

"I'm fine if he comes, however my real hope is that sherwood is just playing with Levy.
Making Levy think he is getting £100k a week off his books, only for us to either walk away or get him for a reduced amount later in the window.
Will not help their recruitment plans.
Be nice to see Tim play Levy...."

"100k a week until the end of June is what? £4.7m? (£4.3m come deadline day). That's still a pretty hefty gamble on our part for where we are right now. It would also absolutely smash our pay structure. Even if they're not asking for a fee (and come on people its Levy - he's asking for a fee), I still think it would be a monumental moment for the club. However of course in the real world top players get 100k+ a week.

If I was Lerner though and Tim managed to get rid of Nzogbia and his £2m+ of wages I'd give him a bonus of £2.5m and let him do whatever he wants"

"I agree, we actually bought two strikers already and effectively have a new signing in a fit Kozak. Some parts of the media would have you believe that Adebayor was Benteke's replacement but that is not the case. I think he is experienced cover whilst we bedded down a young striker. Personally I would still take him and I think we will end up with him.

The bit I am enjoying is for once Levy does not hold all the cards as we have plenty of striking options and we could take Berbatov on a free as an alternative. The delay will be us playing hardball."

"The deal will cost us around £5million however its dressed up. We would have to contribute at least half towards his wages and a fee of around £2.5 million. if we offered to pay his wages in full to get him off Spurs books, they would probably snap our hands off, other than that, a fee would have to be paid. My guess is that we're at least £1million apart and we are in a much stronger negotiating position than Spurs are.

For those suggesting it is a gamble, I would ask what striker wouldn't be? Austin performed for a season but to me, he represents a bigger gamble, given the financial package that would be involved. There is no guarantee of any signing working out and there have been some real clangers over the years. For me, at around £5million, Adebayor would give us 12 months breathing space to see how Gestede pans out and also to ensure this years kitty is invested elsewhere within the team. If we need a striker in 12 months then we will be in a position to buy one.

Adebayor would represent insurance to me. I'd ideally like Gestede to work for us but if he struggled, Adebayor would be great back up. Vice versa, if we could get Adebayor to reproduce the form he showed under Sherwood then Gestede could be cover in case Adebayor lost interest half way through. The thought of playing them both in a 4-4-2 or a 4-4-1-1

is also intriguing"

I think the top post has it spot on tbh

 

[hodsgod]

But AVB took us to our record points tally, did Timmy? No. Over a longer period of time, his win ratio wouldn't have been as good. We've all got differing opinions, mine is I don't like the bloke, never have, never will. I don't think he has potential, and I don't think he's any good.

Timmy had a higher ppg ratio in his time as manager than AVB did in his record season, Tim had a better record than AVB with the same team, and Tim didn't have Bale pulling every other game our of the fire.

 

[Lilbaz]

Good discussion on the saintsweb about us. It's called the spuds saga in thier saints forum.

On my phone so can't copy it. If anyone else can it would be appreciated.

 

[F_AN2CE]

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?54617-The-Spuds-Saga-for-better-or-worse

 

[225]

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?54617-The-Spuds-Saga-for-better-or-worse

The fire sale continues ....next one out of the door from White Hart Lane is Benjamin Stambouli (after little more than one season).....gone to PSG for a paltry £6 million !

........wonder how much Spurs lost on THAT deal......?.

They've made a profit on him.

 

[Yid_Summers]

Timmy had a higher ppg ratio in his time as manager than AVB did in his record season, Tim had a better record than AVB with the same team, and Tim didn't have Bale pulling every other game our of the fire.

That's because AVB had 38 games, Tim had probably half that. So it's not even comparable.

 

[TottenhamLegend]

I wish someone would tell them that about half of the Soldado fee was performance based, and therefore the loss we are making on him is minimal.

 

[Doomchicken]

I wish someone would tell them that about half of the Soldado fee was performance based, and therefore the loss we are making on him is minimal.

It was £26m, not £13m and bonuses. The whole "and bonuses" thing only popped up a year after the deal, once he had flopped, and people clung onto it because it makes the transfer less embarrassing. Valencia were in financial trouble, and needed money - so why would they agree to a deal that's 50% bonuses?

 

[Chris12]

It was £26m, not £13m and bonuses. The whole "and bonuses" thing only popped up a year after the deal, once he had flopped, and people clung onto it because it makes the transfer less embarrassing. Valencia were in financial trouble, and needed money - so why would they agree to a deal that's 50% bonuses?

Because they were in financial trouble.

 

[wpd659]

It was £26m, not £13m and bonuses. The whole "and bonuses" thing only popped up a year after the deal, once he had flopped, and people clung onto it because it makes the transfer less embarrassing. Valencia were in financial trouble, and needed money - so why would they agree to a deal that's 50% bonuses?

Beacuse they needed around 18 million upfront i think it was. I actually cant rememeber now.

I think that was discussed on here at the time.

 

[Doomchicken]

Beacuse they needed around 18 million upfront i think it was. I actually cant rememeber now.

I think that was discussed on here at the time.

£18m upfront, and we can guess some of the clauses were met, so we're still looking at almost £10m lost, if that's the case.

 

[Lilbaz]

£18m upfront, and we can guess some of the clauses were met, so we're still looking at almost £10m lost, if that's the case.

Doesn't matter because the £10m from him will go on Werner who will be worth £40m in a couple of years, so we'd be in the black

 

[wpd659]

£18m upfront, and we can guess some of the clauses were met, so we're still looking at almost £10m lost, if that's the case.

As i said i cant remember that exact amount? Could of been 16mil. I very much doubt we paid alot more in add ons.

Yes we will have a loss but it wont be anywhere near the amount people are quoting.

 

[eddiev14]

LOL at the Villa fan who thinks Libor Kozac will keep Ade out of their first team!

That guy is proper dogshit.

 

[beats1]

It was £26m, not £13m and bonuses. The whole "and bonuses" thing only popped up a year after the deal, once he had flopped, and people clung onto it because it makes the transfer less embarrassing. Valencia were in financial trouble, and needed money - so why would they agree to a deal that's 50% bonuses?

Actually no, the president actually said they were after €18m for 1 player before he sold soldado on a local Valencia radio station saying that was the amount that needed to match the revenue from the previous season after missing out the CL.

Also they weren't in huge financial trouble since they were owned by the banks with them looking for a seller but they weren't in trouble of administration and were in decent shape, well as decent as spain was back then

The only trouble they were in was finding that €18m to stop the bank funding them, which they said they raise by selling one player.

 

[nicdic]

I was under the impression that it was two instalments of £13m. One up front and one after a year.

 

[Japhet]

LOL at the Villa fan who thinks Libor Kozac will keep Ade out of their first team!

That guy is proper dogshit.

Kozac won't need to keep him out of the team. He'll have to fill in for him when Ade disappears every 5 minutes.

 

[Col_M]

I wish someone would tell them that about half of the Soldado fee was performance based, and therefore the loss we are making on him is minimal.

Would you like some Spinnage with that Gullible Pie?

 

[teok]

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?54617-The-Spuds-Saga-for-better-or-worse

Some idiots but a lot of level headed decent fans on there.