We need a captain who is not our goalkeeper, it needs to Vert instead. Discuss....

[stevenqoz]

As much as I love Hugo Lloris we are struggling having a keeper as our captain. True Poch's original decision to give it to Kaboul was a mistake but given the opportunity to correct it he has failed and we are worse for it. My objection is to keepers being the captain in general and little about this one in particular.
Our side are of questionable mental strength and need a stronger onfield influence than what can be offered by the keeper. My preference would be a central defender or central midfielder. The skipper needs to be able to exhort the side and take them up and back. My preference would be Vert who is one of our players who commands a regular starting spot. I know he can be a bit of a sulker but to me that is partly a function of him being overlooked.
Someone needs to bollock Rose if he jogtrots back...needs to shake up Walker when he continually insists on giving the winger three yards start...scream at Townsend when he goes missing and slap Chadli when he has a listless junkie-like phase. All this easier and more effective with an onfield player as skipper

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

The captain makes minimal difference. Unless you have a Jon Terry/Roy Keane in the squad any other captain will just have a token armband. Those captains that led and made a difference by force of will are incredibly rare now a days. We certainly don't have any in our squad. Hugo is our best and most consistent player so it makes sense for him to be captain imo

 

[bill]

Seriously ... we have no-one!


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[Blackcanary]

Honestly, Verts just doesn't seem to have the right sort of personality to be Captain for us. I know he was Ajax captain but i've seen very little from him in his time with us to suggest that's a role he'd welcome or excel at.

The only people who i've seen try to vocally dictate, lead and encourage on the pitch this season are Fazio and Stambouli (both now lost mysteriously in the ether) and Bentaleb.

I do agree with you, but I don't think there's an obvious candidate.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

Also, just to add. Just because Verts or other players don't have the armband it doesn't stop them taking responsibility

 

[bill]

The captain makes minimal difference. Unless you have a Jon Terry/Roy Keane in the squad any other captain will just have a token armband. Those captains that led and made a difference by force of will are incredibly rare now a days. We certainly don't have any in our squad. Hugo is our best and most consistent player so it makes sense for him to be captain imo

We need a Blanchflower/Mackay/Roberts/Mabutt/Perryman .... We have a young squad. I think we need to buy someone in for the next few seasons.


Edit ... Wouldn't give it to Verts. We need people to lead by example

 

[Blockbuster]

Hugo being captain isnt the problem, the problem is lack of 'Leaders' in the middle of the park.

We need players to stand up and be counted, not just wear an armband.

Hugo is our best player, deserves the Armband, Verty as you suggest needs to show some leadership before getting anywhere near the armband.

Scott Parker was someone... Gallas Another... these players are leaders regardless of wearing an armband.

 

[Donki]

Also, just to add. Just because Verts or other players don't have the armband it doesn't stop them taking responsibility

Nail on head, we dont have anyone who can grab a game by the balls and organise on the pitch, very clear after the United game. An armband won't change that. We do have a very youg sqaud, espeically in midfield where so many games are won and lost these days. I can see Benteleb growing into a real beast though.

 

[spurs mental]

Vertonghen is not captain material. Lloris is his national team captain isn't he? He is our best option.
I was listening to the Spurs Show this morning and they discussed this captaincy issue as well, and they came to the conclusion that we don't have anyone in the mould of captain, but the likes of Keane/Terry/Gerrard are a dying breed. They are few abs far between now a days.

I think Bentaleb is a future captain but he's only 19(?) so he's not quite there yet. Other than that, I'd look at Kane but it's not ideal to have a striker as captain because he would not always be back in defence to give a kick up the hole to Walker for farting around with the ball every 5 minutes.

 

[cozzo]

Bentaleb has the makings of a captain

 

[Donki]

Hugo being captain isnt the problem, the problem is lack of 'Leaders' in the middle of the park.

We need players to stand up and be counted, not just wear an armband.

Hugo is our best player, deserves the Armband, Verty as you suggest needs to show some leadership before getting anywhere near the armband.

Scott Parker was someone... Gallas Another... these players are leaders regardless of wearing an armband.

I would of added Dawson to that list... but I can already hear the chuckles of laughter from the majority of people on here .

 

[yusrisafri]

Not saying it works with every team but zoff and casillas won the WC so its not really about the position not being suitable for captain.

 

[thfc1989]

Bentaleb has the makings of a captain

Not if he keeps slapping players.

 

[spurs mental]

I would of added Dawson to that list... but I can already hear the chuckles of laughter from the majority of people on here .

I'd suggest we wouldn't have conceded three to Man United or Leicester if Dawson was still captain and playing in this team. For all his short comings, he would have sorted last weeks mess out pretty quickly on field, and as for the third goal on Saturday, never would have happened, Dawson would have gotten his balls in the way of the long ball if not his head.

 

[chinaman]

Verts seems to be moping a lot of times, so think he's not the right choice.

 

[Deleted member 26368]

I don't think giving the armband to another player would make much difference per se. If Vertonghen, for example, is a leader he will lead anyway; he shouldn't need the armband to take control of matters on the field or in the dressing room.

I think signing one or two players with leadership qualities would help in that respect, or even with a little more international experience than some of our current first team.

 

[Donki]

I'd suggest we wouldn't have conceded three to Man United or Leicester if Dawson was still captain and playing in this team. For all his short comings, he would have sorted last weeks mess out pretty quickly on field, and as for the third goal on Saturday, never would have happened, Dawson would have gotten his balls in the way of the long ball if not his head.

No doubt someone will come in a point out a few games where we conceeded 3 goals with Daws in the line up, but I agree with you. I still miss him in the squad however.

 

[Blackcanary]

I would of added Dawson to that list... but I can already hear the chuckles of laughter from the majority of people on here .

Aww, I miss that big man-puppy.

 

[stevenqoz]

Two things here...first the coach has looked past Vert as skipper when as you say he has done it in Holland...I believe given the opportunity he will step up. Second ....as someone who has probably coached almost a thousand games since the eighties I know what works and a keeper as the leader is just not practical. Think about your time as players...how important was someone to guide the side up and down? At present Tottenham are pretty rudderless....not a killer against deadbeats but we are vulnerable in the cold harsh north as flat track bullies coming up against strong sides

 

[spurs mental]

No doubt someone will come in a point out a few games where we conceeded 3 goals with Daws in the line up, but I agree with you. I still miss him in the squad however.

Probably the capitulation v City etc under AVB. But I think with Dawson playing for us this season, we would have conceded less goals. But that's only my opinion. No one can say whether we would be doing worse or better with or without Dawson.