Wanyama forcing summer transfer to Tottenham

[Spurs 1961]

The summer is a long way off the way we are developing as a club. Wanyama was last year and even then was he not second choice to his former teammate? Is he better than what we have? Don't get me wrong I think he is a good player and wanted us to go for him a few years back ... but this is now and Spurs are in a different place

 

[DanielCHillier]

For me I'd rather see Bentaleb trained to be more defensive, he's still young, so as long as he's willing to learn he has all th attributes to be fantastic in that position. He already has the passing ability and skill with the ball that Wanyama lacks.

 

[sebo_sek]

I'd prefer Pogba tbh. Let's get Pogba.

Are we in for Pogba?
My source... seems to think so.
I hope it's true!

 

[Geyzer Soze]

Are we in for Pogba?
My source... seems to think so.
I hope it's true!

Next thing as a result of my silly post there will be a Daily Star article linking us, a transfer rumour thread will evolve and it'll go to 106 pages and there will be mass suicide when the summer window shuts and they haven't managed to get the fax through ...

you're welcome!

 

[chinaman]

I'm not too impressed by him. Would rather have one of our academy lads over him

 

[Deleted member 29446]

I was very impressed with him under Poch, not so much since then.

But hey, we have Poch now, so why not? His heart is probably not 100% with Southampton.

 

[Khilari]

And there lies the problem. Bentaleb isn't a DM he doesn't do the same job as Dier. He's also very average. Personally I don't see a long term future at Spurs for Bentaleb, he thinks he is far better than he is and he won't sit on the bench for long periods.

Wanyama is a direct replacement for Dier, a player who needs a back up. But I am not sure Wanyama will want to be a bench player either.

I don't think Bentaleb is very average.

 

[bryanabutler]

No thanks, can do better

 

[wozzahotspurs]

I don't think Bentaleb is very average.

Care to say what makes him so special? He doesn't excel at anything.
He doesn't create many chances
Doesn't score
Doesn't control a midfield
Doesn't read the game very well
Doesn't do lots of interceptions
Isn't a specialist in tackling
He doesn't offer anything you can't get from those we already have.
He won't be a starter as a regular for us for a long time if at all.

Dier has come in from CB and shown he is more capable than Bentaleb my a country mile. Then there's dele Ali, yes different position but at 19 makes Bentaleb (our saviour last season apparently) look like Gary Doherty.

 

[Khilari]

Care to say what makes him so special? He doesn't excel at anything.
He doesn't create many chances
Doesn't score
Doesn't control a midfield
Doesn't read the game very well
Doesn't do lots of interceptions
Isn't a specialist in tackling
He doesn't offer anything you can't get from those we already have.
He won't be a starter as a regular for us for a long time if at all.

Dier has come in from CB and shown he is more capable than Bentaleb my a country mile. Then there's dele Ali, yes different position but at 19 makes Bentaleb (our saviour last season apparently) look like Gary Doherty.

Good passing ability
Retains the ball in tight situations
Can tackle
Has shown previously that he can play a more forward role too (at U21 level)
At the age of 20 established himself as a Spurs regular under Pochettino - known to demand a lot from his players

I think the last point is probably a good enough sign that he's not average.

I also don't think Bentaleb and Dier are anything like similar players - Pochettino just happens to have found a winning combination with Dier shielding the back four and with Dembele/Alli alongside him it's worked well.

That doesn't make Bentaleb average - it just makes Dier more suited for the way we play at the moment.

Just because Son, or Lamela, or Chadli or Rose or Trippier or Davies spend time on the bench, that doesn't make them average. It just means there's someone better than suited to the first XI for a particular game / style of play.

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

Waste of time posting anything from this rag.

 

[DanielCHillier]

3 red cards now this season, very average player.

 

[Mr.D]

Never red. Golden bollocks Payet made a real meal of it. Fucking girl.

 

[wozzahotspurs]

Good passing ability
Retains the ball in tight situations
Can tackle
Has shown previously that he can play a more forward role too (at U21 level)
At the age of 20 established himself as a Spurs regular under Pochettino - known to demand a lot from his players

I think the last point is probably a good enough sign that he's not average.

I also don't think Bentaleb and Dier are anything like similar players - Pochettino just happens to have found a winning combination with Dier shielding the back four and with Dembele/Alli alongside him it's worked well.

That doesn't make Bentaleb average - it just makes Dier more suited for the way we play at the moment.

Just because Son, or Lamela, or Chadli or Rose or Trippier or Davies spend time on the bench, that doesn't make them average. It just means there's someone better than suited to the first XI for a particular game / style of play.

He will leave Spurs in the next 2 seasons unless he improves. His passing is often slack apart from his through balls to the opposition

 

[DanielCHillier]

He will leave Spurs in the next 2 seasons unless he improves. His passing is often slack apart from his through balls to the opposition

I agree he has to improve but this just isn't true though, his passing was exemplary last season, and now after one poor pass v Utd everyone has jumped on his back and criticised every touch of the ball

 

[wozzahotspurs]

I agree he has to improve but this just isn't true though, his passing was exemplary last season, and now after one poor pass v Utd everyone has jumped on his back and criticised every touch of the ball

Sorry mate but his passing declined over the course of last season. He passed it well in poch's early days where we were quite rigid and not playing great football. Ow since we started taking leaps forward d it's got worse and worse.

I hope he seriously improve I really do, but currently he should be nowhere near starting for us & he's currently in my eyes quite the downgrade on however he replaces

 

[UbeAstard]

after one poor pass v Utd everyone has jumped on his back and criticised every touch of the ball

I believe that to be rubbish and a narrowing of the truth. He has given the ball away at least twice since he has returned from injury (in his first game back it was almost as serious a consequence as the Utd game). I don't believe everyone has jumped on his back but maybe they are not as willing as you are to minimise his mistakes and that is also possibly why Pochettinho doesn't seem to be trusting him. Carroll is playing before him despite Bentaleb being the senior player.

 

[DanielCHillier]

I believe that to be rubbish and a narrowing of the truth. He has given the ball away at least twice since he has returned from injury (in his first game back it was almost as serious a consequence as the Utd game). I don't believe everyone has jumped on his back but maybe they are not as willing as you are to minimise his mistakes and that is also possibly why Pochettinho doesn't seem to be trusting him. Carroll is playing before him despite Bentaleb being the senior player.

Twice is not a lot, no player in world football has 100% passing accuracy, and that proves my point about people being overly critical of him. Also I'm not sure what you mean about him being the senior player compared to Carroll, Carroll is two years older. Bentaleb hasn't been at his best this season or since his injury bit he's certainly not been as bad as everyone seems to be saying.

 

[UbeAstard]

Twice is not a lot, no player in world football has 100% passing accuracy, and that proves my point about people being overly critical of him. Also I'm not sure what you mean about him being the senior player compared to Carroll, Carroll is two years older. Bentaleb hasn't been at his best this season or since his injury bit he's certainly not been as bad as everyone seems to be saying.

Twice is more than once

after one poor pass v Utd everyone has jumped on his back and criticised every touch of the ball

and when the times it happens has caused us to concede or almost concede then rightly so questions will be asked about his decision making in those situations. When I said senior I meant in terms of appearances or importance in recent times. I'm not saying he is bad but I understand why questions may be asked and all in all it comes down to what the manager feels is best.

 

[SpursMadDave]

Bentaleb isn't adequate back up for Dier. OK for the other CM spot but has very little defensive ability.

I'm pretty sure at the start of the season most fans said Dier wasn't up the DM position, I think I will bow to the coaches oppinion on Bentaleb