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I think I read somewhere that Davies doesn't count as home grown; well, at least not for CL rules.
Was there a thread on this a while back?
Was there a thread on this a while back?
This is correct - Davies is not HG for CL (but is HG for PL)I think I read somewhere that Davies doesn't count as home grown; well, at least not for CL rules.
Was there a thread on this a while back?
It feels like we have been here before. We all know how the story ends, but just for shits and giggles, lets do this again:
GK: Lloris, Gazzaniga, Vorm
Vorm is out of contract this summer, and there is no reason to re-sign him like we did last summer. McDermott and Miki will play a key role here - but even if we do not go with a Youth player as 3rd keeper, we must find a HG keeper to be 3rd choice. Lloris is still top choice, but I am happy for Gazza to challenge him.
RB: Trippier, Aurier, Walker-Peters
I said last year, that one of these players had to go, and here we are. So, this year I am being serious - 1 or more have to go. We missed out on selling Trippier at his highest level last summer, and whether we like it or not - he is HG. Aurier has not taken his chances well this year, and may be running out of time. It does not matter what we do here - so long as we do something.
CB: Vertonghen, Alderweireld, Sanchez, Foyth (CCV)
Alderweireld can go for £25M this summer - thing is, I don't think that is a sure thing that he leaves. Time will tell, both Manchester clubs are likely to be interested - maybe even Chelsea or Arsenal. Poch clearly prefers Sanchez to Foyth, right now. But I think we are pretty set here - if ALderweireld leaves, we can push Dier back to CB - or go find a reasonably priced CB to take Toby's slot. CCV should be sold this summer. It hard to see him with a future here - already well behind Foyth and Sanchez.
LB: Rose, Davies
If Rose is fit, he is one of the best. And, Davies is not terrible as a back-up. Given some of the other holes in the squad that need freshening, I think we will stick here. Maybe we take a punt on Sessegnon when Fulham get relegated, but I am not sure if he is really a LB at this stage.
DM: Dier, Wanyama
We could/should see a new DM in this summer. Wanyama is a shell of his former self, and DIer is a CB playing DM. As Dier ages, and loses his limited agility, he will need to move deeper in the line-up.
CM: Winks, Sissoko, Skipp (Onomah)
I think Poch's preferred formation matters here, whether we have a CM3 or CM2. But, I think this is our biggest need - a strong B2B CM who can help move the ball from the defense to the attacking third, and can also contribute a few goals. I think Winks is fine in a CM3, but he stuggles more in a CM2. Sissoko has obviously been a revelation this year - but he is not young. We should be bringing in a top CM.
AMs/Wingers: Eriksen, Dele, Son, Lucas, Lamela (GKN, Edwards)
Eriksen will be testing our limits this summer, if he does not sign an extension. We can't go into the season with him on his last year - this will have to be resolved one way or the other. Obviously, if he goes, that should add a chunk of money to the budget - and we will need it to find a replacement. Dele and Son are sure to be here next summer - but I could see us look to move Lucas and/or Lamela. I'd prefer to keep Lucas - I think he gives us more options, and is healthier/more consistent than Lamela. I think we will need to bring in 2 players here - assuming Eriksen leaves.
Striker: Kane, Llorente, Janssen, Parrott
Llorente will be gone. Janssen has a couple of months now to prove his worth in training, and maybe a few matches. Parrott might be a bench option next year for the Domestic Cup matches. We will need to find someone for the back-up striker role. Hopefully, it can be a top player who can also compete for minutes as an AM.
This will be a very challenging summer - we have more "holes" than a club competing for CL spots should have - but that is why it si so important to refresh 1-2 players every summer, so you are not left with needing to make a lot of changes at one time
Out: Vorm, Trippier/Aurier, Wanyama, Eriksen, Llorente, Janssen
Maybe: Alderweiereld, Lamela
So that is 8 players, on top of Dembele this January. And, to make it worse - nothing for Vorm or Llorente, and not much for Janssen or Wanyama
IN: 3rd GK, 4th CB, DM, CM, AM, AM, S
7 in. Seems like an impossibility.
We must upgrade CM/DM
If we move Dier to CB, then we still need to bring in another CM/DM
3rd GK must be HG
If we can sign Eriksen and Alderweireld to extensions:
3rd GK, DM, CM - replace Lamela/Lucas and replace Llorente
I think you’ll see one of Lamela or Lucas head out as well.Outgoings:
Vorm, Janssen, Llorente, Nkoudou, Wanyama, Trippier, Aurier, Davies and sadly Eriksen I think will go sadly. Hopeful of an Alder renewal
Incoming positions: DM, CM, AM, RW who can play uptop (opposite side to Son basically) Backupstriker, LB, RB
Optimistic incomings: Berge, Rabiot, Isco (really my dream would be Asensio but fat chance), Arp, Sessegnon, I'd also want Wan-Bissaka as my first choice rb but I'd be open to Max Aarons and his teammate Lewis.
Honourable mentions, I'm still keen on Malcom but seems unlikely at this point, I still feel like Kovacic would suit us better than Chelsea if Rabiot is a no go. I'd still be keen on Keita Balde as I'd like to see him under Poch and know Poch is a fan of his. I'm intrigued by Bowen and Clarke also. I rate Chilwell but think he'd be too expensive.
Honestly feel like we have given ourselves too much to do in one window especially if Eriksen leaves.
Outgoings:
Vorm, Janssen, Llorente, Nkoudou, Wanyama, Trippier, Aurier, Davies and sadly Eriksen I think will go sadly. Hopeful of an Alder renewal
Incoming positions: DM, CM, AM, RW who can play uptop (opposite side to Son basically) Backupstriker, LB, RB
Optimistic incomings: Berge, Rabiot, Isco (really my dream would be Asensio but fat chance), Arp, Sessegnon, I'd also want Wan-Bissaka as my first choice rb but I'd be open to Max Aarons and his teammate Lewis.
Honourable mentions, I'm still keen on Malcom but seems unlikely at this point, I still feel like Kovacic would suit us better than Chelsea if Rabiot is a no go. I'd still be keen on Keita Balde as I'd like to see him under Poch and know Poch is a fan of his. I'm intrigued by Bowen and Clarke also. I rate Chilwell but think he'd be too expensive.
Honestly feel like we have given ourselves too much to do in one window especially if Eriksen leaves.
With these sorts of expectations, the club doesn’t stand a chance!Outgoings:
Vorm, Janssen, Llorente, Nkoudou, Wanyama, Trippier, Aurier, Davies and sadly Eriksen I think will go sadly. Hopeful of an Alder renewal
Incoming positions: DM, CM, AM, RW who can play uptop (opposite side to Son basically) Backupstriker, LB, RB
Optimistic incomings: Berge, Rabiot, Isco (really my dream would be Asensio but fat chance), Arp, Sessegnon, I'd also want Wan-Bissaka as my first choice rb but I'd be open to Max Aarons and his teammate Lewis.
Honourable mentions, I'm still keen on Malcom but seems unlikely at this point, I still feel like Kovacic would suit us better than Chelsea if Rabiot is a no go. I'd still be keen on Keita Balde as I'd like to see him under Poch and know Poch is a fan of his. I'm intrigued by Bowen and Clarke also. I rate Chilwell but think he'd be too expensive.
Honestly feel like we have given ourselves too much to do in one window especially if Eriksen leaves.
Whilst a big change can be detrimental four of those players mentioned are fringe players so I don't see those problems personally. We may not have a choice with Eriksen and our RB position absolutely needs sorting as it's a weakness.With these sorts of expectations, the club doesn’t stand a chance!
That much change is not even desirable. It needs to be slower and targeted on our biggest weaknesses otherwise the culture - a culture that Poch has tried so hard to instil - will suffer.
No more than 3 incomings for the first team (plus a third choice gk).
Fella, this thread was made for you. Never seen someone so dedicated to the art of rosterbation.
Your last sentence is key.
Yeah its gone from needing 2/3 to needing a good 6, thats why I tried to keep it so it would only be 2/3 first teamers and more people who are youth prospects.
With these sorts of expectations, the club doesn’t stand a chance!
That much change is not even desirable. It needs to be slower and targeted on our biggest weaknesses otherwise the culture - a culture that Poch has tried so hard to instil - will suffer.
No more than 3 incomings for the first team (plus a third choice gk).