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hellava_tough

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I think I read somewhere that Davies doesn't count as home grown; well, at least not for CL rules.

Was there a thread on this a while back?
 

wrd

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Outgoings:

Vorm, Janssen, Llorente, Nkoudou, Wanyama, Trippier, Aurier, Davies and sadly Eriksen I think will go sadly. Hopeful of an Alder renewal

Incoming positions: DM, CM, AM, RW who can play uptop (opposite side to Son basically) Backupstriker, LB, RB

Optimistic incomings: Berge, Rabiot, Isco (really my dream would be Asensio but fat chance), Arp, Sessegnon, I'd also want Wan-Bissaka as my first choice rb but I'd be open to Max Aarons and his teammate Lewis.

Honourable mentions, I'm still keen on Malcom but seems unlikely at this point, I still feel like Kovacic would suit us better than Chelsea if Rabiot is a no go. I'd still be keen on Keita Balde as I'd like to see him under Poch and know Poch is a fan of his. I'm intrigued by Bowen and Clarke also. I rate Chilwell but think he'd be too expensive.

Honestly feel like we have given ourselves too much to do in one window especially if Eriksen leaves.
 
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Lighty64

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It feels like we have been here before. We all know how the story ends, but just for shits and giggles, lets do this again:



GK: Lloris, Gazzaniga, Vorm

Vorm is out of contract this summer, and there is no reason to re-sign him like we did last summer. McDermott and Miki will play a key role here - but even if we do not go with a Youth player as 3rd keeper, we must find a HG keeper to be 3rd choice. Lloris is still top choice, but I am happy for Gazza to challenge him.

RB: Trippier, Aurier, Walker-Peters

I said last year, that one of these players had to go, and here we are. So, this year I am being serious - 1 or more have to go. We missed out on selling Trippier at his highest level last summer, and whether we like it or not - he is HG. Aurier has not taken his chances well this year, and may be running out of time. It does not matter what we do here - so long as we do something.

CB: Vertonghen, Alderweireld, Sanchez, Foyth (CCV)

Alderweireld can go for £25M this summer - thing is, I don't think that is a sure thing that he leaves. Time will tell, both Manchester clubs are likely to be interested - maybe even Chelsea or Arsenal. Poch clearly prefers Sanchez to Foyth, right now. But I think we are pretty set here - if ALderweireld leaves, we can push Dier back to CB - or go find a reasonably priced CB to take Toby's slot. CCV should be sold this summer. It hard to see him with a future here - already well behind Foyth and Sanchez.

LB: Rose, Davies

If Rose is fit, he is one of the best. And, Davies is not terrible as a back-up. Given some of the other holes in the squad that need freshening, I think we will stick here. Maybe we take a punt on Sessegnon when Fulham get relegated, but I am not sure if he is really a LB at this stage.

DM: Dier, Wanyama

We could/should see a new DM in this summer. Wanyama is a shell of his former self, and DIer is a CB playing DM. As Dier ages, and loses his limited agility, he will need to move deeper in the line-up.

CM: Winks, Sissoko, Skipp (Onomah)

I think Poch's preferred formation matters here, whether we have a CM3 or CM2. But, I think this is our biggest need - a strong B2B CM who can help move the ball from the defense to the attacking third, and can also contribute a few goals. I think Winks is fine in a CM3, but he stuggles more in a CM2. Sissoko has obviously been a revelation this year - but he is not young. We should be bringing in a top CM.

AMs/Wingers: Eriksen, Dele, Son, Lucas, Lamela (GKN, Edwards)

Eriksen will be testing our limits this summer, if he does not sign an extension. We can't go into the season with him on his last year - this will have to be resolved one way or the other. Obviously, if he goes, that should add a chunk of money to the budget - and we will need it to find a replacement. Dele and Son are sure to be here next summer - but I could see us look to move Lucas and/or Lamela. I'd prefer to keep Lucas - I think he gives us more options, and is healthier/more consistent than Lamela. I think we will need to bring in 2 players here - assuming Eriksen leaves.

Striker: Kane, Llorente, Janssen, Parrott

Llorente will be gone. Janssen has a couple of months now to prove his worth in training, and maybe a few matches. Parrott might be a bench option next year for the Domestic Cup matches. We will need to find someone for the back-up striker role. Hopefully, it can be a top player who can also compete for minutes as an AM.


This will be a very challenging summer - we have more "holes" than a club competing for CL spots should have - but that is why it si so important to refresh 1-2 players every summer, so you are not left with needing to make a lot of changes at one time


Out: Vorm, Trippier/Aurier, Wanyama, Eriksen, Llorente, Janssen
Maybe: Alderweiereld, Lamela


So that is 8 players, on top of Dembele this January. And, to make it worse - nothing for Vorm or Llorente, and not much for Janssen or Wanyama


IN: 3rd GK, 4th CB, DM, CM, AM, AM, S

7 in. Seems like an impossibility.

We must upgrade CM/DM
If we move Dier to CB, then we still need to bring in another CM/DM
3rd GK must be HG


If we can sign Eriksen and Alderweireld to extensions:

3rd GK, DM, CM - replace Lamela/Lucas and replace Llorente

I agree with a HG keeper providing 1 will come and be 3rd choice, but if we end up selling Aurier instead of Trips, next season we would have KWP as HG. not sure if we would still need 1 more for UEFA due to the ruling that goes against Davies and Dier
 

robertgoulet

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Outgoings:

Vorm, Janssen, Llorente, Nkoudou, Wanyama, Trippier, Aurier, Davies and sadly Eriksen I think will go sadly. Hopeful of an Alder renewal

Incoming positions: DM, CM, AM, RW who can play uptop (opposite side to Son basically) Backupstriker, LB, RB

Optimistic incomings: Berge, Rabiot, Isco (really my dream would be Asensio but fat chance), Arp, Sessegnon, I'd also want Wan-Bissaka as my first choice rb but I'd be open to Max Aarons and his teammate Lewis.

Honourable mentions, I'm still keen on Malcom but seems unlikely at this point, I still feel like Kovacic would suit us better than Chelsea if Rabiot is a no go. I'd still be keen on Keita Balde as I'd like to see him under Poch and know Poch is a fan of his. I'm intrigued by Bowen and Clarke also. I rate Chilwell but think he'd be too expensive.

Honestly feel like we have given ourselves too much to do in one window especially if Eriksen leaves.
I think you’ll see one of Lamela or Lucas head out as well.
 

golfspurs

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Best Case
Kept Eriksen

In
3rd GK HG
LCB to replace Toby
1st Right Back
Sessigon
Deep lying MC like Sander Berge
Prospect MC/AM who has strength for passing and key pass
Forward who can play WF like Werner

Out
Vorm
Toby
Aurier
Trip
Davies
Wanyama
Llorente
VJ

Realistic
Still hope Eriksen to stay

In
3rd GK HG
LCB to replace Toby
Sander Berge
One of Sessegnon or AM like Grealish
Forward who can play WF plan B after miss Werner
Proper Advance playmaker if CE leaves

Out
Vorm
Trip or Aurier
Toby
Wanyama
Llorente
VJ
 

Snarfalicious

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Here's what I'd probably do:

Sell:
Wanyama, Trippier, Alderweireld, Janssen, Nkoudou and Lamela.
-Highly doubtful we shift that much, but it'd be a pretty penny in the end (that's what it's all about, baby). But, I still believe there's likely a cash flow issue, so this can help a bit.

My Wishlist (Obviously we aren't getting all of these guys. Hell, we would be happy with one):

Sander Berge: Looks like a nice midfielder with good potential.

Chucky Lozano: Good, direct player. We aren't getting Werner, and with Lamela leaving in this scenario, I like him as a replacement.

Kai Havertz: Once again, good young, talented player. Pretty versatile and at 19, could turn into a truly complete player. I think once he fills out a bit more he's got a chance to be a fantastic B2B type central midfielder that can also play in a more attacking midfield role (as he does now for Bayer).

Luka Jovic: Bit of a pipe dream pickup, here. But, with Llorente and Janssen gone, Jovic would feasibly get plenty of matches and I think he and Kane could be a formidable duo in the same formation.

Matthijs de Ligt: The ultimate Toby replacement.
 

SamR

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I don't think we have a choice but to buy this summer - players will depart for certain.

Probable Departures;
Toby, Llorente, Vorm

Possible;
Eriksen, Lloris, Waynama

Who I'd let go to free up revenue;
Aurier, Lamela, Davies

We need to Mix investment - Now quality & Future Quality. It will be very easier to slip out of the top four with a large number of departures.

I'm sure who we need but quality through the spine is essential!
 

Hakkz

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Outgoings:

Vorm, Janssen, Llorente, Nkoudou, Wanyama, Trippier, Aurier, Davies and sadly Eriksen I think will go sadly. Hopeful of an Alder renewal

Incoming positions: DM, CM, AM, RW who can play uptop (opposite side to Son basically) Backupstriker, LB, RB

Optimistic incomings: Berge, Rabiot, Isco (really my dream would be Asensio but fat chance), Arp, Sessegnon, I'd also want Wan-Bissaka as my first choice rb but I'd be open to Max Aarons and his teammate Lewis.

Honourable mentions, I'm still keen on Malcom but seems unlikely at this point, I still feel like Kovacic would suit us better than Chelsea if Rabiot is a no go. I'd still be keen on Keita Balde as I'd like to see him under Poch and know Poch is a fan of his. I'm intrigued by Bowen and Clarke also. I rate Chilwell but think he'd be too expensive.

Honestly feel like we have given ourselves too much to do in one window especially if Eriksen leaves.

Your last sentence is key.
 

hellava_tough

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Could probably get away with bringing in only 3 players; Toby replacement (presumably he'll leave), Eriksen replacement (possible he'll leave) and a CM.

In an ideal world, however, we're looking at upgrading the following; 3rd GK, LB, RB, CB (replacement for Toby), CM, AM (replacement for Eriksen) AM (who can cover for Kane).

So that's 7 players.

Could do with a bit more experience in the starting XI as well, but that might not be possible (too expensive to sign an experienced player in their prime, to slot straight into the starting XI).

Also, 7 players in one transfer window is difficult to achieve and potentially very disruptive to the squad dynamic. We really should have signed a couple in the summer, one in January and then 2 to 4 more in the coming summer.

Oh well, we'll see how it goes.
 

hellava_tough

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Btw, I'm surprised some are saying Moura and Lamela may be sold.

Apart from being decent squad players, that would give us even more work to do in an already busy summer transfer period.

Can't see it myself.
 

LeParisien

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Outgoings:

Vorm, Janssen, Llorente, Nkoudou, Wanyama, Trippier, Aurier, Davies and sadly Eriksen I think will go sadly. Hopeful of an Alder renewal

Incoming positions: DM, CM, AM, RW who can play uptop (opposite side to Son basically) Backupstriker, LB, RB

Optimistic incomings: Berge, Rabiot, Isco (really my dream would be Asensio but fat chance), Arp, Sessegnon, I'd also want Wan-Bissaka as my first choice rb but I'd be open to Max Aarons and his teammate Lewis.

Honourable mentions, I'm still keen on Malcom but seems unlikely at this point, I still feel like Kovacic would suit us better than Chelsea if Rabiot is a no go. I'd still be keen on Keita Balde as I'd like to see him under Poch and know Poch is a fan of his. I'm intrigued by Bowen and Clarke also. I rate Chilwell but think he'd be too expensive.

Honestly feel like we have given ourselves too much to do in one window especially if Eriksen leaves.
With these sorts of expectations, the club doesn’t stand a chance!

That much change is not even desirable. It needs to be slower and targeted on our biggest weaknesses otherwise the culture - a culture that Poch has tried so hard to instil - will suffer.

No more than 3 incomings for the first team (plus a third choice gk).
 

rossdapep

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I'd love to see a strategy in which we target young english players as I think it would work out great and Poch would help them fulfil their potential.

We also need to focus on what our areas of weakness are. This season we have conceded far too many goals from giving the ball away when pushed high up the pitch. Therefore we need to either bring in players who are much safer in possession or full backs who are much more dynamic and can recover quickly. Walker used to give the ball away often but his pace would always bail him out.

We also need a DM/CM who can cover ground better and who is strong on the ball. I never felt like we were in trouble when Dembele was up against two players facing our own goal, I knew he'd force his way out of it.

If Eriksen goes then we either need to replace him with a creative player or find more firepower.

Im expecting both Eriksen and Toby to leave whereas I'd listen to offers for Aurier, Trippier and Wanyama (if he doesn't get up to speed). Vorm, GKN, Janssen and Llorente need to go.

Id sign Jack Clarke but Leeds won't sell him if they are promoted. Therefore we may need to do a season loan back.

I'd be looking at bringing in a dynamic RB who Poch can mould such as Aarons and give the mantle to KWP.

If Fulham go down and Poch is still keen then I think Sessegnon would be a good option.

The one player I absolutely believe we should go all out for is David Brooks. I think he'd be a superb purchase and someone who could make Eriksens departure easy to forget.

Sander Berge looks ideal and shouldn't cost too much.

My ultimate ambition signing would be Jadon Sancho, if we got big money for Eriksen I'd be tempted to offer it to Dortmund. Obviously thats pie in the sky stuff as we don't do these transfers. I just salivate at the thought of

Brooks
Son Alli Sancho
Kane
 

rossdapep

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With these sorts of expectations, the club doesn’t stand a chance!

That much change is not even desirable. It needs to be slower and targeted on our biggest weaknesses otherwise the culture - a culture that Poch has tried so hard to instil - will suffer.

No more than 3 incomings for the first team (plus a third choice gk).
Whilst a big change can be detrimental four of those players mentioned are fringe players so I don't see those problems personally. We may not have a choice with Eriksen and our RB position absolutely needs sorting as it's a weakness.

Our core would generally still be in tact. Lloris, Vert, Rose, Dier, Winks, Sissoko, Son, Alli and Kane are currently the spine of the team, as long as that isnt distrubted their wont be that much turbulence and Poch can phase players in as opposed to rush them in if he was replacing a core player.

We'll also have a normal preseason with these boys, so I do think we wont rely on incomings so much from the off.
 

Spursmatty87

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If rose keeps his form I’m happy with lb, Davies is dependable back up

Both RB could go for me neither on 1st choice or overly dependable back ups.

Centre backs I’m happy with but if Toby goes I’d like a lcb in.

Wanyama needs to more on, top class replacement needed.

Need to replace Eriksen if he doesn’t sign. After that, if we could get a forward in then great but not top priority.
 

Japhet

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We're in the situation where evolution has been scrapped and revolution is more likely than before. Ideally we'd retain Eriksen and Toby but if they were to leave we'd have a decent chance in Eriksen's case of signing a player like Brookes or Maddison. If Toby goes we'd maybe go back for Pavard.

Llorente will most likely be off. I'd actually like Mitrovic as a plan B type CF. We already have a couple of false 9s in Son and Lucas.

In midfield I think Berge would suit us well but it seems odd that we didn't try to tie up a deal to bring him in at the end of the season if we're interested.Maybe we're aiming higher. I'd also like a player like Barella/Aouar who takes opponents on in the middle of the park.

I'd ship Trippier out and use KWP more. Upgrade on Aurier would be nice but unlikely.

In reality I think we'll bring in a maximum of 3 unless Eriksen goes. I think wholesale changes would be a big setback for us but it may have to happen unfortunately.
 

wrd

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Your last sentence is key.

Yeah its gone from needing 2/3 to needing a good 6, thats why I tried to keep it so it would only be 2/3 first teamers and more people who are youth prospects.
 

Hakkz

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Yeah its gone from needing 2/3 to needing a good 6, thats why I tried to keep it so it would only be 2/3 first teamers and more people who are youth prospects.

Also leaves us with the dilemma of spending more on a few players and risk leaving gaps in the squad.
 

wrd

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With these sorts of expectations, the club doesn’t stand a chance!

That much change is not even desirable. It needs to be slower and targeted on our biggest weaknesses otherwise the culture - a culture that Poch has tried so hard to instil - will suffer.

No more than 3 incomings for the first team (plus a third choice gk).

I mean its called the transfer wish list thread not the transfer expectations otherwise im throwing a paddy thread. I also said I felt the club has given himself too much to do over the summer.

I tried to name players for near 90% certain positions we need to replace

Dembele has left so: Rabiot (whos out of contract)
If Eriksen is leaving: Out of favour Isco who we could try and work into a deal.
Wanyama is crocked so: Berge from Genk

Then Rb has been an issue all season but this one was unrealistic but selling trips and aurier for Wan-Bissaka but alternatively Max Aaroms which is a far more realistic deal

Sessegnon depends on costs so again offering Lewis as an alternative

Then Llorente and Janssen are likely to leave so im suggesting a 19 year who idolises Kane to be bedded in.

The rest were luxury purchases, I dont think you needed to say the club doesnt have a chance, the club basically needs to do 2 seasons worth of work this summer.
 
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