Tottenham could be forced to leave out Son Heung-min vs Liverpool after early exit

[E17yid]

Did you see the blood coming out of his left nostril when he was on the ground ?

Yep. Look, he took a bit of a whack enough to make me think, oh he’s not faking it, but was I wincing and in fear of him when I saw it? Nope.

 

[TheChosenOne]

Yep. Look, he took a bit of a whack but did it make me think, oh he’s not faking it, but was I wincing and in fear of him when I saw it? Nope.

As someone who has had bad concussions in the past (which probably explains my doollallyness) I watched Sonny walking off the pitch and to the dressing room. He looked shook to the core.

 

[E17yid]

As someone who has had bad concussions in the past (which probably explains my doollallyness) I watched Sonny walking off the pitch and to the dressing room. He looked shook to the core.

Yeah he looked disorientated for sure and if he’s still feeling symptoms today (dizziness or is vomiting after light training) then he probably suffered a concussion but we don’t know that yet. He could’ve just sufffered a bit of whack, got a bit dizzy and feel almost fine today. Goes without saying if he is still experiencing symptoms then he should have the week off but we don’t know anything yet.

 

[Japhet]

To be fair, I think Thomson was suffering much more than just small knocks in scrums. He was probably getting sparked out on a weekly basis, this, I imagine, will be the bigger issue. Sure small knocks can’t help but I think this headering a football is dangerous thing is going to far but obviously if the science is solid then we better ban headers pretty quick I suppose.

I think it's just something to be aware of, and that football should adopt the same head injury protocols as Rugby where the player has no say in the matter and the injury assessment is done independently. There was a keeper at the weekend (can't remember who) who stayed on for a good while after getting whacked but then couldn't carry on. That's daft, just as it was when Lloris did the same. Players will always say they're OK, not least because they can't think straight in that situation.

 

[Westmorlandspur]

I doubt he'll make Liverpool with medical protocols and stuff. Thought we looked OK when Lucas moved more central though, but we do need some threat from RWB when that happens. Richarlison back would be perfect. In the unlikely event that Conte unleashes Spence, I guess Doherty is our best option. Hope Sonny's OK. Looked out of it.

Didn’t look much better in the picture after the match in the dressing room.

 

[E17yid]

I think it's just something to be aware of, and that football should adopt the same head injury protocols as Rugby where the player has no say in the matter and the injury assessment is done independently. There was a keeper at the weekend (can't remember who) who stayed on for a good while after getting whacked but then couldn't carry on. That's daft, just as it was when Lloris did the same. Players will always say they're OK, not least because they can't think straight in that situation.

Yeah for sure, and this is how it is anyway isn’t it? It was clear at the time when he was walking off he couldn’t carry on. I’m talking about today and tomorrow in terms of how’s he’s feeling but he’ll undergo very similar protocols to rugby I imagine whereby each day he’ll have to undergo certain physical tasks to see if the symptoms come back. If they don’t the likelihood is he was never concussed in the first place. Fingers crossed that is the case.

It’s no one rule for everyone. Anyone who’s been punched in the face knows that sometimes it has little effect and other times it can spark you out. Depends on a lot of things. I personally didn’t think it looked like a really nasty head injury but sometimes the innocuous ones can be bad.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Fingers crossed both Kulu and Richy will be training next couple of days. Might be enough to manage a half each maybe.???

That would be amazing news if so ??

 

[yiddopaul]

He will (and should) be rested. Last year, the year before, I would have been worried about facing Liverpool without key players. They are a shadow of their former selves. And it's at WHL, so I'm not overly worried.

 

[Jules77]

Surely Perisic is capable and experienced at LWF if Son isn't fit? Unfortunately doesn't have the pace of Son to get in behind Liverpool's high defensive line

If Richarlison isn't fit, then would prefer working out how to get Gil in there. It's a very tough fixture and I've been in favour of NOT throwing him in too soon, but without Son we lack the run in behind on the counter, and I'm not sure Perisic gives us that. Gil's energy and pace combined with the frailty of TAA at the moment, I'd be prepared to give Gil a free runout.

 

[StanSpur]

To be fair, I think Thomson was suffering much more than just small knocks in scrums. He was probably getting sparked out on a weekly basis, this, I imagine, will be the bigger issue. Sure small knocks can’t help but I think this headering a football is dangerous thing is going to far but obviously if the science is solid then we better ban headers pretty quick I suppose.

Well they have banned heading at junior levels and the number of ex footballers with dementia is disproportionate to the general public so the science does suggest there is a potential issue. There are arguments about the balls being a lot lighter these days but the flip side of that is that balls are hit harder. Regardless concussion is a serious thing that needs proper assessment and care and I hope son doesn’t have it and can return asap.

 

[E17yid]

Well they have banned heading at junior levels and the number of ex footballers with dementia is disproportionate to the general public so the science does suggest there is a potential issue. There are arguments about the balls being a lot lighter these days but the flip side of that is that balls are hit harder. Regardless concussion is a serious thing that needs proper assessment and care and I hope son doesn’t have it and can return asap.

For sure it’s serious which is why I said in my opening post, hope he’s not concussed. A concussion every few years or once a decade is not life threatening though. Repeated concussions over a short period of time, yes, but one every few years or decade? nah

Would you be in favour of banning headers?

 

[Tiberius Gracchus]

Son didn’t look comfortable at the time but anyone who’s taken a hits to the head will know that sometimes they leave you spinning without a concussion so fingers crossed it’s just that that made him unsteady. My initial thought was broken cheekbone based on where the shoulder hit so may be a few weeks and a phantom mask for the WC. Can’t see him playing at the weekend. Really struggle to see where goals come from given our very defensive midfield and missing 3 of our top 4 attackers. Moura looks lost at the moment, I’d be tempted to have sess and perisic on the left against Liverpool with sess trying to break the high line. Not an ideal final ball but probably the best pace we can offer in sons absence

Sess was excellent against liverpool last seaaon, can't remember if he was lwb or lwf, will assume lwb

 

[StanSpur]

For sure it’s serious which is why I said in my opening post, hope he’s not concussed. A concussion every few years or once a decade is not life threatening though. Repeated concussions over a short period of time, yes, but one every few years or decade? nah

Would you be in favour of banning headers?

No not in favour of banning headers but would be interested to see increased routine testing of players (particularly defenders) throughout the season to look at brain health as heading a ball 50 times in a space of a month could be as impactful as one big hit (or not) and it would be interesting and useful if premier league clubs who have the medical teams were doing this level of research. Maybe they are and I’m just waffling on a random topic!

 

[E17yid]

No not in favour of banning headers but would be interested to see increased routine testing of players (particularly defenders) throughout the season to look at brain health as heading a ball 50 times in a space of a month could be as impactful as one big hit (or not) and it would be interesting and useful if premier league clubs who have the medical teams were doing this level of research. Maybe they are and I’m just waffling on a random topic!

Yeah I’d imagine they do things like that and if they don’t they definitely should. As you rightly point out things like the balls are totally different today but data needs to be collected for sure.

 

[mil1lion]

Fingers crossed both Kulu and Richy will be training next couple of days. Might be enough to manage a half each maybe.???

I guess Richarlison is going to be more suited to start as only been a couple weeks for him. Kulu may have closer to 20 mins given the time out.

 

[mil1lion]

Fingers crossed he wasn’t concussed and he was just being a bit of a pussy. I don’t think it looked that bad to be honest and expected him to play on but footballers these days init.

The same pussy who played on with a broken arm at Villa you mean?

 

[E17yid]

The same pussy who played on with a broken arm at Villa you mean?

Yeah that’s the guy.

 

[mark87]

Did you see the blood coming out of his left nostril when he was on the ground ?

Planted there by our medical team, Kev.

 

[TheChosenOne]

Planted there by our medical team, Kev.

I thought it might have been the old razor trick by the Chilean keeper Rojas who sliced himself

 

[Navin R Johnson]