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Time to stop selling to other EPL Clubs?

Blockbuster

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Jun 28, 2007
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I think our policy of selling players to other Premiership clubs needs to be looked at.
YES we make good money back on most of the players we sell and we do have a fantastically high turn over of players at the Lane but I think its starting to hinder our performances in League & Cup games.

Nearly EVERY match we have contains some sort of ex-spurs player with a grudge who gives it an extra 110% as 'its spurs' and we need payback.

Every game we play has got an added element and i think its now starting to take its toll.

Yes sometimes they make no difference by other times they do. just think it needs looking at.

Arsenal - Campbell
Aston Villa - Luke Young
Birmingham - Carr, Tainio
Blackburn - Robinson, Chimbonda,
Bolton - Sean Davis
Fulham - Kelly, Konchesky, Murphy, Zamora, Davies
Hull city - Gardner, Barmby, Marney,
Manchester United - Berbatov, Carrick
Portsmouth - Rocha, Brown, Kevin-Prince
Stoke City - Etherington
Sunderland - Steed, F. Campbell, Bent, Reid, Fulop
West Ham - Mido
Wolves - Kightly

Some tedious links but i think the point is still valid. This gives other teams an added incentive to play well against us.
28 players at 13 clubs. that's 26 Games with added Spice!

Am I looking for excuses or is this hindering us?
 

dontcallme

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Mar 18, 2005
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Excuses I think. The media might focus on a returning player more but if a player was deemed not needed then we need to sell him. If teams are beating us because an opposing player is putting 110% then we need to look at our work rate rather than our selling policy.
 

Adam

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Feb 23, 2004
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The thing is, you cant afford to be carrying dross in the squad. This, combined with the phobia of British players to go abroad and actually add some technical ability to their game makes it very difficult to offload your players to anyone apart from Premier League clubs.
 

Azrael

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May 23, 2004
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Christ. We can't sell to English clubs anymore?? There was a time when that was all we would do! Lets look at this list....

Arsenal - Campbell
Agree that this was a gutting sale, but it was years ago and would no longer be benefiting from Campbell as he was then by this season.

Aston Villa - Luke Young
Inferior to what we have now.
Birmingham - Carr, Tainio
Inferior to what we have now.
Blackburn - Robinson, Chimbonda,
Inferior to what we have now.
Bolton - Sean Davis
Inferior to what we have now.
Fulham - Kelly, Konchesky, Murphy, Zamora, Davies
All inferior to what we have now.
Hull city - Gardner, Barmby, Marney,
All inferior to what we have now.....and come on, Barmby?????
Manchester United - Berbatov, Carrick
These are the only players I think we should not have let go to English clubs. With Berbatov we didn't have a great deal of choice once he tried the sulking strike bullshit.
Portsmouth - Rocha, Brown, Kevin-Prince
All inferior to what we have.
Stoke City - Etherington
Inferior to what we have.
Sunderland - Steed, F. Campbell, Bent, Reid, Fulop
All inferior to what we have, although I would have liked Steed to have stayed as a benchwarmer.
West Ham - Mido
Overrated fat shit.
Wolves - Kightly
Did he ever do anything for us?
 

Hoowl

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Aug 18, 2005
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As Azreal said, with the exception of Berbatov and Carrick all those players were sold because we have better players and thus it shouldn't matter and we should confortable be able to play against them. In the cases of Berbatov and Carrick I suspect there was not a lot we could do about the deals, with player power being what it is.
 

spurdownunder

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Mar 20, 2007
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Classic stuff there Azrael!

Agree with all of that.

When we look back over some of the fees we got (****face aside) for that list of chaff, we replaced it with the likes of:

Palacios
Modric
Pav
Gomes
Bale
Corluka
Kranky
Bassong
Bentley
Crouchinho

OK, so I'm clutching at straws with the last couple, but you get my drift.

Onwards an upwards. The others can please themselves.
 

Adam456

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Jul 1, 2005
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Excuses I think. The media might focus on a returning player more but if a player was deemed not needed then we need to sell him. If teams are beating us because an opposing player is putting 110% then we need to look at our work rate rather than our selling policy.

What he said ^^

Plus note that we were pretty much forced into selling the only two players on that list that any of us would take back.

They're now both nearing 30 and we took a combined profit of £36m that we've re-invsted in others....
 

Luka Lennon

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Excuses I think. The media might focus on a returning player more but if a player was deemed not needed then we need to sell him. If teams are beating us because an opposing player is putting 110% then we need to look at our work rate rather than our selling policy.




Wrong. If a player is deemed not good enough we need to take him out back and whack him then bury him under the training pitch so this sort of thing doesn't happen anymore. capisce?
 

nailsy

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Jul 24, 2005
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I wouldn't mind seeing Etherington back at the club. He's improved since he left us and would offer us a different option from the bench.
 

shakus

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The policy of high 'staff turnover' has pretty much been the key factor,which is borne out of so many managerial changes, there is bound to be mass upheaval each time a new boss is appointed.

The past 6 / 7 years have been quite a ride and very unsettling for everyone, we haven't stuck to our guns much, caused by instant success demanded, even with the dreaded 5 yr plan, it wasn't executed particularly well.

With the exception of a few players we have a lot of young players in our squad that need at least another couple of years to fulfil their FULL potential.

With the current status relatively stable, as much as I don't agree with Harry and his tactics, change is something we can ill afford, we just need time and more patience than we've given already. (I've waited for 25 yrs for a decent title challenge, a few more is not a problem)

Having said that I still reckon come the summer that we'll be shipping at least 4 to 5 players off the books, so I don't think Harry's quite done yet with the squad.
 

nailsy

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Jul 24, 2005
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:rofl: are you here all week?

There are better players than him out there, but he would offer us a more direct attacking approach when we needed to change a game. This season he's played 29, scored 4 with 9 assists. At Stoke. His stats compare very well to Modric who has played 15, scored 2, with 4 assists.
 

Azrael

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There are better players than him out there, but he would offer us a more direct attacking approach when we needed to change a game. This season he's played 29, scored 4 with 9 assists. At Stoke. His stats compare very well to Modric who has played 15, scored 2, with 4 assists.
There's more to a player than goals and assists.
 

Blockbuster

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My Argument wasn't that we 'shouldn't' have let these guys go of course we should we have improved. its just with so many playing against us they feel the need to play better and hinder our results!
 

onthetwo

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May 19, 2006
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I think our policy of selling players to other Premiership clubs needs to be looked at.
YES we make good money back on most of the players we sell and we do have a fantastically high turn over of players at the Lane but I think its starting to hinder our performances in League & Cup games.

Nearly EVERY match we have contains some sort of ex-spurs player with a grudge who gives it an extra 110% as 'its spurs' and we need payback.

Every game we play has got an added element and i think its now starting to take its toll.

Yes sometimes they make no difference by other times they do. just think it needs looking at.

Arsenal - Campbell
Aston Villa - Luke Young
Birmingham - Carr, Tainio
Blackburn - Robinson, Chimbonda,
Bolton - Sean Davis
Fulham - Kelly, Konchesky, Murphy, Zamora, Davies
Hull city - Gardner, Barmby, Marney,
Manchester United - Berbatov, Carrick
Portsmouth - Rocha, Brown, Kevin-Prince
Stoke City - Etherington
Sunderland - Steed, F. Campbell, Bent, Reid, Fulop
West Ham - Mido
Wolves - Kightly

Some tedious links but i think the point is still valid. This gives other teams an added incentive to play well against us.
28 players at 13 clubs. that's 26 Games with added Spice!

Am I looking for excuses or is this hindering us?

Sorry, this is a daft thread - who the hell are we going to offload players to if its isnt other teams in the EPL?
 

Marty

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Mar 10, 2005
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And Kightly left us when he was 15!

There are only three players there that are good enough to be in our squad: Steeeeed, Carrick and Berba. Don't miss any of the rest of them.
 

jrio

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Nov 19, 2006
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I think our policy of selling players to other Premiership clubs needs to be looked at.
YES we make good money back on most of the players we sell and we do have a fantastically high turn over of players at the Lane but I think its starting to hinder our performances in League & Cup games.

Nearly EVERY match we have contains some sort of ex-spurs player with a grudge who gives it an extra 110% as 'its spurs' and we need payback.

Every game we play has got an added element and i think its now starting to take its toll.

Yes sometimes they make no difference by other times they do. just think it needs looking at.

Arsenal - Campbell
Aston Villa - Luke Young
Birmingham - Carr, Tainio
Blackburn - Robinson, Chimbonda,
Bolton - Sean Davis
Fulham - Kelly, Konchesky, Murphy, Zamora, Davies
Hull city - Gardner, Barmby, Marney,
Manchester United - Berbatov, Carrick
Portsmouth - Rocha, Brown, Kevin-Prince
Stoke City - Etherington
Sunderland - Steed, F. Campbell, Bent, Reid, Fulop
West Ham - Mido
Wolves - Kightly

Some tedious links but i think the point is still valid. This gives other teams an added incentive to play well against us.
28 players at 13 clubs. that's 26 Games with added Spice!

Am I looking for excuses or is this hindering us?
Those players in bold weren't sold by us to those clubs. That's about 2/3 of the total.

Of the ones that were, which have really punished us when playing against us? Only Steed and Bent.

As everyone has said, how the hell are you going to sell players by exclusively selling them outside of your own country? That's ignoring that players aren't serfs and can decide whether they want to go to a club.
 
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