Things you were wrong about, things you were right about and things you're still unsure of Spurswise
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Shadydan
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- Jul 7, 2012
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Wrong
Soldado - Thought he'd be the real deal, and backed him to come good and kept putting my nuts on the line, then I lost faith at the beginning of last season.
Holtby - Thought he'd be immense under Poch due to his pressing and stamina, guess not.
Paulinho - Thought he'd do well but didn't take into account that he has absolutely shite mentality.
Walker - Thought he was done for and that he wouldn't improve, he's made me eat my words big time.
I was also desperate for us to sign James McCarthy because I thought he'd be a bargain as he would give us that needed protection to the back four and also I thought Hernandez would have been a poor signing as I thought he was just a quicker Soldado.
Right
Poch - Knew he'd be the real deal for us from day one.
Lamela - Always backed this kid, just needed some confidence and direction which he now has.
Sherwood - Come on, that wasn't hard.
Rose - Backed this guy when he was getting pelters by fans, I knew he'd come good, again with some direction.
Dier - I thought he'd be a success as a DMF and has proved to be thus far.
Soldado - Thought he'd be the real deal, and backed him to come good and kept putting my nuts on the line, then I lost faith at the beginning of last season.
Holtby - Thought he'd be immense under Poch due to his pressing and stamina, guess not.
Paulinho - Thought he'd do well but didn't take into account that he has absolutely shite mentality.
Walker - Thought he was done for and that he wouldn't improve, he's made me eat my words big time.
I was also desperate for us to sign James McCarthy because I thought he'd be a bargain as he would give us that needed protection to the back four and also I thought Hernandez would have been a poor signing as I thought he was just a quicker Soldado.
Right
Poch - Knew he'd be the real deal for us from day one.
Lamela - Always backed this kid, just needed some confidence and direction which he now has.
Sherwood - Come on, that wasn't hard.
Rose - Backed this guy when he was getting pelters by fans, I knew he'd come good, again with some direction.
Dier - I thought he'd be a success as a DMF and has proved to be thus far.
ILS
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- Jun 21, 2008
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Wrong
Well.... Most people will remember my Hall of fame post about Bale not having the qualities to become a top class winger and should focus on becoming the best left back in the world....hmmmmm
Toby - had my serious doubts about signing him as I was never impressed with him...best signing this season.
Lamela - I never doubted his ability just that he would be better suited elsewhere.
Kane - I think it was the game against Shamrock when I wrote him off there and then.
Right
Capoue - used to argue with people comparing him to Patrick Vieira. The bloke is a good mid table premiership player.
Siggurdson - same as Capoue some players find their level playing with less pressure at smaller clubs
Dempsey - I always remember texting my mate saying knowing Levy he will bloody sign Clint Dempsey...next moment turns up in a taxi at the training ground.
And last but not least...Kevin Scott...850k for that shite could not believe it!
Undecided - Sandro loved the bloke but still unsure whether he was actually any good at football?
Well.... Most people will remember my Hall of fame post about Bale not having the qualities to become a top class winger and should focus on becoming the best left back in the world....hmmmmm
Toby - had my serious doubts about signing him as I was never impressed with him...best signing this season.
Lamela - I never doubted his ability just that he would be better suited elsewhere.
Kane - I think it was the game against Shamrock when I wrote him off there and then.
Right
Capoue - used to argue with people comparing him to Patrick Vieira. The bloke is a good mid table premiership player.
Siggurdson - same as Capoue some players find their level playing with less pressure at smaller clubs
Dempsey - I always remember texting my mate saying knowing Levy he will bloody sign Clint Dempsey...next moment turns up in a taxi at the training ground.
And last but not least...Kevin Scott...850k for that shite could not believe it!
Undecided - Sandro loved the bloke but still unsure whether he was actually any good at football?
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tototoner
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- Mar 21, 2004
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No War and Peace from me.
Right about
Adebayor - never wanted him, divisive character
van der Vaart - loved him before he played for us, a very special player
Dembele - a beast
Wrong about
Pochettino - wanted de Boer, don't want anyone else now
Lamela - thought he was a show pony but thankfully proving me wrong this season.
Undecided - :Levy, I still don't trust him and if he doesn't bring in another forward in Jan to support Kane then our season will frizzle out
Right about
Adebayor - never wanted him, divisive character
van der Vaart - loved him before he played for us, a very special player
Dembele - a beast
Wrong about
Pochettino - wanted de Boer, don't want anyone else now
Lamela - thought he was a show pony but thankfully proving me wrong this season.
Undecided - :Levy, I still don't trust him and if he doesn't bring in another forward in Jan to support Kane then our season will frizzle out
TheSpillage
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- Dec 26, 2013
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Right:
I was right in thinking all these recent, 'I was wrong' threads annoy me a bit. There's something a little bit self-congratulatory about them which I find painful.
"Hey, I can admit when I'm wrong. I'm a big enough man to do that and that makes me a decent supporter" seems to be a common sentiment on here at the moment.
Wrong:
I was wrong to not think this properly through before starting writing, because now I'm thinking about it loads and I want to go to bed because I'm knackered but I can't because I want to write more.
It's interesting that when things are going well we are suddenly more inclined and able to want to own up to our 'mistakes'. When things aren't going well, these posts don't exist. We're only able then to point out how to make things better. I reckon this would probably tell me something profound about human nature if I wasn't so tired (and stupid).
I was also wrong not to say man/woman in the 'right' section because I implied that only men like football and that is just bloody sexist.
I don't know:
I don't know what I'm talking about.
I was right in thinking all these recent, 'I was wrong' threads annoy me a bit. There's something a little bit self-congratulatory about them which I find painful.
"Hey, I can admit when I'm wrong. I'm a big enough man to do that and that makes me a decent supporter" seems to be a common sentiment on here at the moment.
Wrong:
I was wrong to not think this properly through before starting writing, because now I'm thinking about it loads and I want to go to bed because I'm knackered but I can't because I want to write more.
It's interesting that when things are going well we are suddenly more inclined and able to want to own up to our 'mistakes'. When things aren't going well, these posts don't exist. We're only able then to point out how to make things better. I reckon this would probably tell me something profound about human nature if I wasn't so tired (and stupid).
I was also wrong not to say man/woman in the 'right' section because I implied that only men like football and that is just bloody sexist.
I don't know:
I don't know what I'm talking about.
allpaths
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- Oct 31, 2014
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Wrong:
well where do I begin?
Toby- was very much against an average defender taking away precious playing time from dier, boy could I not have been more wrong on both of my concerns.
Dembele- thought he was utter shit and wanted him to be moved on in the summer, now I can't stand a game with him not in our side.
AVB- I was creaming myself for the guy, and I feel out of love with him really fast and without Bale he would have lost his job a lot sooner.
Townsend- thought he was going to be a really solid nice player for us, oh well.
Capoue- his passing fooled me, turned out to be a lazy moody guy who rather be a big fish in a small pond. Still think he has the skills, but not the right mentality
chiriches- kind of the same as above, thought if we could find a different position other than cb we could of had a player on our hands
pavlyuchenko- always liked how he could just rocket them in
right
Lamela, rose and walker- never lost the faith
Kane- was never a one season wonder
Soldaldo- never liked him, as a player he was so ill-suited for the prem
faith in the youth- along with poch, has really turned the club around
*Also becoming Spurs- one of the best decisions of my life, especially when my family has no other connections to any other club and it was up to me to fall in love with a club! Love at first sight.
not sure
eriksen- obviously a good player, but how well does he actually fit in with our style, i have my long-term doubts that he will stick around
trippier- is he more than just a gap until kwp is ready?
carroll- squad option or sell?
well where do I begin?
Toby- was very much against an average defender taking away precious playing time from dier, boy could I not have been more wrong on both of my concerns.
Dembele- thought he was utter shit and wanted him to be moved on in the summer, now I can't stand a game with him not in our side.
AVB- I was creaming myself for the guy, and I feel out of love with him really fast and without Bale he would have lost his job a lot sooner.
Townsend- thought he was going to be a really solid nice player for us, oh well.
Capoue- his passing fooled me, turned out to be a lazy moody guy who rather be a big fish in a small pond. Still think he has the skills, but not the right mentality
chiriches- kind of the same as above, thought if we could find a different position other than cb we could of had a player on our hands
pavlyuchenko- always liked how he could just rocket them in
right
Lamela, rose and walker- never lost the faith
Kane- was never a one season wonder
Soldaldo- never liked him, as a player he was so ill-suited for the prem
faith in the youth- along with poch, has really turned the club around
*Also becoming Spurs- one of the best decisions of my life, especially when my family has no other connections to any other club and it was up to me to fall in love with a club! Love at first sight.
not sure
eriksen- obviously a good player, but how well does he actually fit in with our style, i have my long-term doubts that he will stick around
trippier- is he more than just a gap until kwp is ready?
carroll- squad option or sell?
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fortworthspur
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I was wrong that we were fucked when we didnt get an experienced midfielder in August. I really thought we were screwed. And I was wrong when I said Alli wasnt the answer - not that I had any reason to believe he was crap, but just because I couldnt imagine a 19 year old playing as well as he has played. Which btw leads me to the few who arent convinced Alli is a special player - imagine him out of the side for 2 months.
theShiznit
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- Jul 26, 2004
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Wrong;
Dier, thought the Dier at CM experiment was headed for disaster but love what he's brought to the team in there. Can move the ball quickly as well, and shows a real leader's heart and desire.
Kane; looked a bit too leaden footed to be a prolific lone striker, and whilst he can still be a bit head down, selfish bull that carries the ball too often, he certainly has a lot more to his game, just needs to have a better picture and occasionally release the ball quicker when needed.
Soldado; not gonna call this wrong, just wrong for the team he was played with. Still liked his play outside the box, but inside the box was always on his mind, and he was thinking far too much about things when chances came his way. glad he's doing well again in Spain.
Right;
Lamela; love what he brings; Endeavour, a quickening of the pace (you'll notice a theme...) a range of passes and inventive creativity, he can do things a bit different. (still think the look the other way pass is the most pointless thing I've witnessed on a football field)
Mason; again,doesn't always get recognised but has heart, always on the move, can ping a pass between the gaps and weight a more subtle pass when needed. and plays one/two touch football with his head up and a picture of what's around him.
Toby, could see he was quality from the start, an organiser of men (not in a male madame way...) solid and gives his all, but not to the detriment of passing, stepping up with the ball or technique in possession.
Townsend; little in the way of football intelligence, his passing is woeful and has no idea of how to create using football rather than dribbling, and he seems incapable of running with power if he comes into contact with a full back, little in the way of guile or trickery/flair either (good ball striker though)
Poch; Has got us looking hungry and quite fluid (less so in recent weeks) in attack, working as a unit, pressing (with increasing regularity) and everyone knowing their jobs and what's expected of them, seems to have the squad fighting for him and all singing from the same sheet for now too...
Undecided:
Alli; He has an abundance of confidence, and it's good that he is always willing to try his tricks, and stretches teams with his runs and has decent movement. But goals aside (not happy to settle for goals even in a striker) I've not been swept away by the Alli hype train. quite slow to use the ball and moves often break down with him.
Dembele; Everyone knows what's great about Dembele, he has strength like an ox, can barely be shifted off the ball by even the strongest opponent and can keep the ball for fun, however I don't know if this is his gift or his curse, dwells on the ball sooo much, I love seeing a body feint or stand up, drop shoulder and glide past a player like the next man, but I am still not enamoured with the constant easy pass after he's beaten the man or the over reliance on his strength in possession that can lead to him being robbed by the second or third man he tries to beat. I don't know if it's indecision or inability to play anything other than passes to men wide open. but even in his current resurgence he still slows us down a lot.
Chadli; again, people will point to goals/assists, but what he does looks predictable and pedestrian, rarely looks like he's breaking a sweat, and another that tends to dwell and take too long to make his mind up. Ball striking also looks hit and miss. and rarely contributes to what I would call good moves. Doesn't really add to the fluid front line either. although seems to have that Dembele'esque time on the ball.
Dier, thought the Dier at CM experiment was headed for disaster but love what he's brought to the team in there. Can move the ball quickly as well, and shows a real leader's heart and desire.
Kane; looked a bit too leaden footed to be a prolific lone striker, and whilst he can still be a bit head down, selfish bull that carries the ball too often, he certainly has a lot more to his game, just needs to have a better picture and occasionally release the ball quicker when needed.
Soldado; not gonna call this wrong, just wrong for the team he was played with. Still liked his play outside the box, but inside the box was always on his mind, and he was thinking far too much about things when chances came his way. glad he's doing well again in Spain.
Right;
Lamela; love what he brings; Endeavour, a quickening of the pace (you'll notice a theme...) a range of passes and inventive creativity, he can do things a bit different. (still think the look the other way pass is the most pointless thing I've witnessed on a football field)
Mason; again,doesn't always get recognised but has heart, always on the move, can ping a pass between the gaps and weight a more subtle pass when needed. and plays one/two touch football with his head up and a picture of what's around him.
Toby, could see he was quality from the start, an organiser of men (not in a male madame way...) solid and gives his all, but not to the detriment of passing, stepping up with the ball or technique in possession.
Townsend; little in the way of football intelligence, his passing is woeful and has no idea of how to create using football rather than dribbling, and he seems incapable of running with power if he comes into contact with a full back, little in the way of guile or trickery/flair either (good ball striker though)
Poch; Has got us looking hungry and quite fluid (less so in recent weeks) in attack, working as a unit, pressing (with increasing regularity) and everyone knowing their jobs and what's expected of them, seems to have the squad fighting for him and all singing from the same sheet for now too...
Undecided:
Alli; He has an abundance of confidence, and it's good that he is always willing to try his tricks, and stretches teams with his runs and has decent movement. But goals aside (not happy to settle for goals even in a striker) I've not been swept away by the Alli hype train. quite slow to use the ball and moves often break down with him.
Dembele; Everyone knows what's great about Dembele, he has strength like an ox, can barely be shifted off the ball by even the strongest opponent and can keep the ball for fun, however I don't know if this is his gift or his curse, dwells on the ball sooo much, I love seeing a body feint or stand up, drop shoulder and glide past a player like the next man, but I am still not enamoured with the constant easy pass after he's beaten the man or the over reliance on his strength in possession that can lead to him being robbed by the second or third man he tries to beat. I don't know if it's indecision or inability to play anything other than passes to men wide open. but even in his current resurgence he still slows us down a lot.
Chadli; again, people will point to goals/assists, but what he does looks predictable and pedestrian, rarely looks like he's breaking a sweat, and another that tends to dwell and take too long to make his mind up. Ball striking also looks hit and miss. and rarely contributes to what I would call good moves. Doesn't really add to the fluid front line either. although seems to have that Dembele'esque time on the ball.
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@ TwanYid: very interesting thread
Thanks. No one else seems to think so lol.
WiganSpur
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Right:
Pochettino- Was an advocate of him when most wanted FdB
Lamela- Knew he would come good eventually
Townsend- Will likely leave in January, just not good enough for us.
Wrong:
Kane- Didn't think he'd make it, but Pochettino turned him into a monster
Soldado, Capoue & Paulinho- Thought they'd be the nuts
I thought we'd be in real trouble without a CM, but Poch has done an amazing job with Eric Dier
Undecided:
Bentaleb & Chadli
Pochettino- Was an advocate of him when most wanted FdB
Lamela- Knew he would come good eventually
Townsend- Will likely leave in January, just not good enough for us.
Wrong:
Kane- Didn't think he'd make it, but Pochettino turned him into a monster
Soldado, Capoue & Paulinho- Thought they'd be the nuts
I thought we'd be in real trouble without a CM, but Poch has done an amazing job with Eric Dier
Undecided:
Bentaleb & Chadli
TheSpillage
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- Dec 26, 2013
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Please don't take my post as an insult to you, if you did! Didn't mean to offend at all. It was more a comment on previous 'I was wrong' threads that got under my skin and only got round to addressing here.
keithtighe93
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still unsure about Alli's footballing ability, I know he's done quite well but sometimes he just looks so average with a ball bouncing off him & other times he seems unbelievable
Spurs 1961
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- Aug 31, 2012
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Right
Lamela
AVB
Dier
Wrong
Kane
Soldado
Unsure
Mason
Carrol
Dembele (though he is on the way to proving me wrong)
Lamela
AVB
Dier
Wrong
Kane
Soldado
Unsure
Mason
Carrol
Dembele (though he is on the way to proving me wrong)
TheChosenOne
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- Dec 13, 2005
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Right : Venables. Alan Sugar. George Graham. Jukebox Durie
Not Proven : Soldado
Wrong : Sulk Ambell (Really thought the douchebag would stay)
Not Proven : Soldado
Wrong : Sulk Ambell (Really thought the douchebag would stay)
lillywhites61
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- Aug 11, 2009
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Biggest one I am wrong about was Rose, I really didn't see it but he has totally proved me wrong gladly!
Right about Dembele, always saw the talent and he has been stand out this year! Hopefully will continue now and show consistency
Right about Dembele, always saw the talent and he has been stand out this year! Hopefully will continue now and show consistency
Hans Moleman
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Right
AVB - Sport isn't played on a whiteboard, its about coping with the unexpected
Poch - Southampton improved immensely and he had experience having been successful in different leagues as a player and a manager
DIer - The guys a beast and had already shown through being a success at RB that he is adaptable - a trait of all good players
Wrong
Kane - Too goofy looking for mine, didn't rate him. Now, the future without him wouldn't look half as bright as what it does with him.
Rose - Never thought he would be up to it
Capoue - Thought he would be like what Dier is now for us. Maybe with the right attitude he would have?
AVB - Sport isn't played on a whiteboard, its about coping with the unexpected
Poch - Southampton improved immensely and he had experience having been successful in different leagues as a player and a manager
DIer - The guys a beast and had already shown through being a success at RB that he is adaptable - a trait of all good players
Wrong
Kane - Too goofy looking for mine, didn't rate him. Now, the future without him wouldn't look half as bright as what it does with him.
Rose - Never thought he would be up to it
Capoue - Thought he would be like what Dier is now for us. Maybe with the right attitude he would have?
Borks
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Why so much hate Twan? I think we all have players we either struggle to feel a connection with or don't think are good enough for the team but I generally reserve my hatred for real ****s like Wilshere and Terry, not players that wear the lilywhite shirt. I think Eriksen only ever plays to 60% of his potential, it really annoys me and I would like to see him moved on but I'll still sing his name at matches and be ecstatic when he scores a winner for us. We all want the same thing for the club, right?
