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rocklink

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Tottenham’s two-goal collapse against Stoke at the weekend was very avoidable. There was some mitigation to it and, yes, if Mauricio Pochettino had had an available second forward, Spurs might well have stumbled across the line and taken the points.

The temptation, then, is to write that game off as a false reality and as a product of Daniel Levy’s failure to equip the squad properly.

That’s fine – and Pochettino deserves that asterisk against his coaching performance – but if anyone believes that this problem is temporary, then they are sadly mistaken. This is a wake-up call, an introduction to what Tottenham life is likely to be like between now and the completion of the Northumberland Project.

What you see is what there is; there are no miracles happening between now and the end of this transfer-window and there are no secret £25m deals on the horizon. Spurs are now a ‘do what they can’ team, a club whose short-term ambition is to stay within the top-half of the table rather to make any further strides up the mountain.

When White Hart Lane’s replacement is built, that will change. The years following that move will be more optimistic and phrases like ‘net spend’ and ‘wage bill’ will gradually fade from prominence.

In the meantime, though, they will define the club’s existence and the prioritisation of economy over football will take a very visible toll on the first-team – and, as a consequence, test the loyalty of many fans.

Stoke was not a blip and the current situation is not an anomaly. This is one of those situations which will ultimately get worse before it gets better and, hopefully, that will bring with it a certain sense of perspective.

There are going to be disappointing results.

The team’s progress will be defined by the hypothetical maturation of younger players rather than the transfer-market.

Teams who have become traditional rivals will hold a significant financial advantage that will be hard to tolerate.

It’s going to be really galling and, given that the club have had some comparative success over the last decade, it’s going to take some getting used to. The Champions League is off the table and the usual annual footballing targets have all been simmered down.

It’s a necessity. It’s the short-term price which has to be paid if the club is to achieve anything in the future. Tottenham are not the beneficiaries of an oil baron’s wealth and have been unable to plot a West Ham-style theft on the tax payer, therefore their route to the next level must be organic and must be sponsored by sacrifice.

It’s really, really important for the fans to understand that and to adjust their thinking accordingly.

The audible discontent at the end of the Stoke game was, because of the circumstances, understandable. It was the type of limp surrender that has become synonymous with the club and it was facilitated as much by an absence of character as it was any staff shortages.

Going forward, however, the supporters have to be willing to grant the players and the manager a bit of leeway and recognise that the odds have shifted against them. Defeats against well-endowed sides are to be expected and disappointing performances against previously inferior opponents will have to be tolerated. If not, the water supply will be poisoned and the supporters will toil in an increasingly toxic world.

In this situation, the crowd have the power; their response to this adjusted reality will ultimately define the club’s morale. If the old standards are applied and expectations are not tempered, this period of limbo will be characterised by bitterness and resentment but if, fanciful as it sounds, the collective attitude is morelaissez faire, then some joy can be derived from what might prove to be a hard slog.

Incremental player developments; individual wins; the occasional knocking-over of a well-monied rival.

Tottenham fans need to turn away from the bigger picture because, simply, there isn’t going to be one for a while. The game-to-game moaning about managerial performance has to go, the hand-wringing over league positions and expected finishes is redundant, and the victimisation of certain players is also a very expendable negativity.

If these seasons are to be bearable, it will be because the fans have allowed them to be so.


http://thepremierleagueowl.com/tottenham-time-to-grit-those-teeth-and-smile/
 

Hotspur33

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Lots and lots to agree with there.
I think it is foolish to try and buy our way up the league as there are 5? Teams that can outspend us.
So buying potential stars and harvesting our academy IS the way forward. But this method is a slow burner. Patients is needed. And there will be many disappointing days ahead.
The only worrying thing, is how much of a game changer will this stadium be?
 

panoma

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Lots and lots to agree with there.
I think it is foolish to try and buy our way up the league as there are 5? Teams that can outspend us.
So buying potential stars and harvesting our academy IS the way forward. But this method is a slow burner. Patients is needed. And there will be many disappointing days ahead.
The only worrying thing, is how much of a game changer will this stadium be?

This is also something i wonder about. If we are a solid 7-10th place team by then, do we even get close to fill it on most weekends?
 

southlondonyiddo

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Many many disappointing days ahead!!:rolleyes: If I had a pound for every disappointing day watching The Spurs over the years I could probably afford to live in a world created by IDS

What's fucking new? Only difference will be we wont be wasting quite as much money as we usually do
 

Dinghy

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Agree with a lot of that... Except I think that the short term aim is to maintain a position in the top 6 not top half...
 

hodsgod

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Lots and lots to agree with there.
I think it is foolish to try and buy our way up the league as there are 5? Teams that can outspend us.
So buying potential stars and harvesting our academy IS the way forward. But this method is a slow burner. Patients is needed. And there will be many disappointing days ahead.
The only worrying thing, is how much of a game changer will this stadium be?
The trouble is just about every team is outspending us. I am genuinely worried this season. Several teams have bought in some decent players on the back of the new tv money, we have invested in the future, but not so much for this season at the moment. It could be a tough season.
 

lukespurs7

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Good post but perhaps a bit negative, we have a talented very YOUNG squad so they will make mistakes, we're missing a few players in LWF,ST and CDM, if we get them in and give the team time I think we could still do well but keeping up with the top4/5 will be tough agreed.
 

The General

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Great post, but absolutely ridiculous. Arsenal didn't fall down the league whilst building their stadium. I don't believe the new stadium and success whilst it's being built have to be mutually exclusive. The ground should be being built with borrowed money against future revenues. I can live with no net spend (although I don't think we should have to with the huge TV money), even though I do think it will ultimately result in us slipping down the league. But going into a game with only one striker on the books with a squad number is inexcusable. No fan should accept the future shiny new stadium as an excuse for having only one striker when we have surplus players in every other position including positions where we've spent money this year.

But the big problem is there is no way Levy will accept not finishing in the top 6. He'll be shot of Pochetino like every manager before him and we'll be starting all over again. I'm not even sure Pochetino is any good but I'm so bored of the hire, clear out, rebuild, sell best player, fire repeat that we've seen of late.

The one thing I do agree with in your essay is that the fans are a massive problem at spurs. We need to be patient and support this young team. It will be tough this year, although it needn't have been as we have the nucleus of a quality squad and with the addition of a quality striker with pace we could have had a real go at winning our 5th/6th/7th mini league with Liverpool and Everton. But our fans won't be patient and neither will Levy.
 

Borks

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If only we had a striker in the squad other than Harry Kane that could hold the ball up and help us keep possession at 2-0.

Oh wait, Poch didn't put him in the 25.
 

Bobbins

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The new TV deal is a huge amount of money - hopefully if we are going to be in a position where we're basically breaking even in terms of transfers, the TV money should then go a long way towards paying the stadium costs. What is it, something like £30/40m more a season most clubs are getting? In a handful of seasons that's an enormous chunk of the stadium costs.
 

Archibald&Crooks

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The game-to-game moaning about managerial performance has to go, the hand-wringing over league positions and expected finishes is redundant, and the victimisation of certain players is also a very expendable negativity.

lol

It'd make a change but………..

Never in a million years.
 

cliff jones

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the stoke game was not an introduction at all. aside from the bale windfall fiasco, weve been run like this under enic. it doesnt have to be like this, but it will be because they are not going anywhere. some good points but all a bit jumbled.

critical ten days ahead. not short termism at all. happy for players still at the development stage to be signed more cheaply, but the striker we buy will play 20 to 30 games at least and therefore needs to know where the net is.
 

chaching

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The trouble is just about every team is outspending us. I am genuinely worried this season. Several teams have bought in some decent players on the back of the new tv money, we have invested in the future, but not so much for this season at the moment. It could be a tough season.

I both agree and disagree with this comment. I agree we need certain improvements in Midfield and attack which hopefully we will get in before the transfer window closes.

But spending doesn’t mean anything. In the 90s we were regularly one of the highest spending teams but our spending on wages were rubbish so we were just spending the money on average players and going nowhere. Now we are spending less on transfers but more on wages to get a higher calibre of player. You can get these players with relatively low transfer spend if you play the market well as transfer value has alot more variables than just player quality.

We are the 6th highest spending team on wages in the league with both a large gap above us and below us. No other team below us are getting close to us on wages and over the course of the season the very lowest I can see us is 7th and that’s if Liverpool and one from Everton or Southampton have a good season. I would say we are more likely to end up 5th or 6th with a small chance of 4th (similar sort of odds as us getting 7th).

At the moment we can’t compete on a level playing field with the top 4 but we are catching up with Liverpool in terms of income and fully expect the way they are run at some point they will implode unless they get very lucky and make champions league. I would say the teams below the top 6 if being honest would say they could not really fully compete with us.

The players that have gone to lower teams we were apparently not interested in as they would not fit our team mentality / ethos / tactics. The only ones I would say we should have got is Shaqiri and Cabaye. I am probably a bit biased with Shaqiri as I have always had a bit of a soft spot for him but I can see he could be a bit of a risk in our league and with our set up. I don’t know why not Cabaye but maybe he works best when you are a team that is always on a back foot and doesn’t work so well with a team that dominates the ball maybe that’s why it didn’t work out for him at PSG.

Just to add my assumptions are we will get at least one more player if we dont then you may be right saying it will be tough, but still would be surprised if we end up much lower than 7th
 
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