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Flashspur

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Bild says Bayer Leverkusen winger Julian Brandts release clause on his contract will drop to around £21m this summer. Liverpool are sniffing around. We'd be crazy to pass this one up. He'd be cheap at twice the price. C'mon Poch and Levy.
 

mpickard2087

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Literally no club in the world operates this way consistently. Yes, you have a great talent coming through you make some space like City with Foden, say, but on the whole it doesn’t happen. Clubs who sell players produce more players. The maths is simple.

And as I've said 99.9% of football clubs play it safe and easy. Maybe they shouldn't, and maybe they should start thinking and trying to operate differently.
 

danielneeds

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And as I've said 99.9% of football clubs play it safe and easy. Maybe they shouldn't, and maybe they should start thinking and trying to operate differently.
It’s nothing to do with playing it safe, it’s that it’s very hard to build a competitive team with young players. Look at what happened to Monaco after they lost the first batch of talent, the second attempt to do it failed badly.
 

Dharmabum

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I hear you but Ajax play a far less competitive league and therefore have more scope to give young player chances. Conversely though we are probably one of the better teams at integrating youth products.

True, playing in a league with less quality can make it easier to develop young talent but that is just one of many factors. If it was that easy in a less competitive league, like the Eredivisie, then all the teams in that league should also develop top talent. But they don't.
Ajax have a long tradition of finding and developing top-talents - dating back to the late 60s when they built up one of the best clubs teams ever, the team that won the European Cup 3 times in row (with the likes of Suurbier, Hulshof, Krol, Neeskens, Cruijff, Keizer, Swart), as well as the CL winners in 1994-95, based on home-grown talents.
And Ajax also developed plenty of home-grown talents when the Eredivisie was on par with, or even better, than the English top league quality wise.
 
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Mr Pink

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As I've said before, at what point do we (and other clubs) stop the pattern of just trying to buy the best Ajax player(s) every year and start to look at who and how they run the club and develop/identify players.......

But I guess that's far too much thinking and hard work, compared to waving the chequebook about.

I'm pretty sure these things have to studied and considered.

If there's one thing Levy doesn't miss, it's the opportunity to build and grow this Club as economically as he can, bridging the gap with those above who've had more means.
 

Dharmabum

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Bild says Bayer Leverkusen winger Julian Brandts release clause on his contract will drop to around £21m this summer. Liverpool are sniffing around. We'd be crazy to pass this one up. He'd be cheap at twice the price. C'mon Poch and Levy.

That's exactly what many other clubs will think as well. Besides, the cheaper his price the more he'll demand in salary, bonuses, signing-on fees etc.
 

double0

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As I've said before, at what point do we (and other clubs) stop the pattern of just trying to buy the best Ajax player(s) every year and start to look at who and how they run the club and develop/identify players.......

But I guess that's far too much thinking and hard work, compared to waving the chequebook about.
Tbf to our club we have addressed our academy and have had success coming through the latest Kane and Winks. Liverpool raided Southampton and nothing is said of it. We'll still need to look around at the moment Bournemouth have an interesting talent pool.
 

double0

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Correct me if I am wrong but I think @COYS Forever meant Mousa Dembele and not Ousmane Dembele ...
Thanks for pointing out I should have been more clear... Dembele was in response to @daryl hannah. My comment that because De Jong has been bought by Barcelona doesn't mean he'll be world class and pointed out O Dembele and Courtinho having questionable performance.
 

parj

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O don't think
As I've said before, at what point do we (and other clubs) stop the pattern of just trying to buy the best Ajax player(s) every year and start to look at who and how they run the club and develop/identify players.......

But I guess that's far too much thinking and hard work, compared to waving the chequebook about.

Ajax have a different situation to Spain, England, Germany and Italy. The club's are smaller (financially) and normally pick up players cheap. Also, Ajax are genuinely the biggest club in Netherlands so they will have youngsters wanting to join them.

We are producing young players, but remember Ajax had a spell of having average players. It is cyclical. We only recently invested in youth and it will take time to get through, but loan system in UK doesn't support young player development due to so much money being available in comparison to other leagues so they don't really get a chance unless they already really good.

We are heading the right way but it will take time after decades of neglect
 

THFCSPURS19

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O don't think

Ajax have a different situation to Spain, England, Germany and Italy. The club's are smaller (financially) and normally pick up players cheap. Also, Ajax are genuinely the biggest club in Netherlands so they will have youngsters wanting to join them.

We are producing young players, but remember Ajax had a spell of having average players. It is cyclical. We only recently invested in youth and it will take time to get through, but loan system in UK doesn't support young player development due to so much money being available in comparison to other leagues so they don't really get a chance unless they already really good.

We are heading the right way but it will take time after decades of neglect
O don't.
 

heelspurs

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It’s nothing to do with playing it safe, it’s that it’s very hard to build a competitive team with young players. Look at what happened to Monaco after they lost the first batch of talent, the second attempt to do it failed badly.
Your example of Monaco does not support your contention. Monaco had a fire sale. They didn't just lose a talented youngster or two. But the team they had was built up over a few seasons. And in a few seasons they will be good again as there is a shitload of young talent there like Ballo-toure that they just picked up from Lille.

I don't believe it is hard to do it is just hard to do with making wholesale changes like Monaco did and expecting to be competitive immediately. But that goes with older players too. We made the mistake of keeping a static squad when we should have been in constant flux, a couple out with a couple new faces in to change the dynamic and hopefully improve us.
 

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It’s happening #bowenincoming
 

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LeParisien

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Not buying anyone is working just fine trolololol

That moment when Sissoko goes down and they cut to Skipp warming up!!
 
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