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Another shot of positivity from Trix. Again.
I have little to no faith that such a radical overhaul - not quite but reasonably close to the one needed when ENIC first came in but made in a very different footballing landscape - will again be possible under the current chairman and board.I know a lot of fans didn't want the conference league but it does now throw up some new problems.
If you've been frustrated in the past with our "sell before we buy" narrative it's now just increased tenfold.
Before we even think about incomings or promoting youth we will have a first team squad of 34 players when they all return from loan.
There is so much to do and without a head coach and DOF this currently looks like an impossible task without having a fire sale.
It is pretty grim right now and this highlights the absolute mess we’re now in.I know a lot of fans didn't want the conference league but it does now throw up some new problems.
If you've been frustrated in the past with our "sell before we buy" narrative it's now just increased tenfold.
Before we even think about incomings or promoting youth we will have a first team squad of 34 players when they all return from loan.
There is so much to do and without a head coach and DOF this currently looks like an impossible task without having a fire sale.
It does mate, but they don't have our ownership and the numbers to shift that we do. It's a combination of many factors imo and the fact so many of them have been at the club for so long will also make this harder.But that’s a ‘big club’ problem, not specific to spurs bar the fact Levy attempts to recoup on deals. Paying premium wages and then needing to shift players to teams that have different salary caps to us affects gooners, utd, Citeh etc too
Dier won't be ve leaving and if he were too leave he'd generate 10million plus easy.We need a reality check with this summer. Fans will obsess over incomings but this summer has to be all about clearing the decks.
Fans also need to understand some of our players are worthless. Saw some people claim Eric Dier is worth 10m, we might get a crate of Neck Oil for him if we are lucky.
If we get 50m all together for the Dozen or so players we need to sell we could count ourselves extremely fortunate.
Reguillon - max value 10m if we get lucky and a lower down prem team sees him as a reclamation project
Ndombele - back to France on loan, worth almost nothing
Lo Celso - might get lucky and get 15-20m of Villa for him as Emery is a fan
Lloris - 0
Dier - 0
Winks - a few mill max
Rodon - max 6 or 7 mil from a top table championship club
Tanganga - almost 0
Sanchez - few mil
Perisic - 0
White - 500k max
Davies??? - 0
Sessegnon??? - max 10m if a team lower down the Prem likes him but we would be lucky
Gil??? - biggest value is to a Spanish club and they are all broke. I would like to see him stay
Approx 50m in value for 12 players we have probably spent 250m on. It is so bad
We won't sell all of them but fans have to realize these boys are worth very little, Europe has no money, a lot of them are on bigger wages than clubs at their real level can afford or have only one year left on their deal. We will have to pay a lot of them to go away. Levy wasted 150m last year and will sell before we buy. So don't expect any big deals unless we sell a top asset like Kane or Son.
This summer on transfers incoming i just hope we get a good keeper and CB. I would take 12 outgoings and 2 incomings. I also will be praying Udogie is the next Gareth Bale.
Dier won't be ve leaving and if he were too leave he'd generate 10million plus easy.
As Mason said these players have had 4 permanent managers in 4 yrs ( and 2 temps) and are being coached differently and you expect them to be consistent.... especially in defence. we have a blasted squad yes... let's stop the scapegoating and understand the dynamics our players had to player under over the last 4 yrs.
we just won the U17 and U18 league cups, what we need is show a realistic route to first team for the youngstersThe reality of no european football is it is the best chance we have to completely rebuild this club from DOF down to youth. It gives the club a chance to reinvigorate, focus on building back into our ethos and style through no interruptions, plenty of time on the training pitch and an opportunity to clear out the deadwood.
If we sold/released 12ish players (3 already/about to be gone) and bought 4 in Id be happy.
Serious question, what can you see that is positive?Another shot of positivity from Trix. Again.
Honestly pal, means nothing for first team football.we just won the U17 and U18 league, what we need is show a realistic route to first team for the youngsters
It's more than just Levy and co realising there's no choice though. Even if they have an epiphany and agree to the clear out at big loses, we then have to find clubs that want these players who have been poor for us that can actually pay the wages to get the players to want to leave.
No we won the league cups not the league's.we just won the U17 and U18 league, what we need is show a realistic route to first team for the youngsters
If we clear out about 10 players and sign approx 5(GK,CB x2,CM,AM) and promote some youth this is a great chance for a full and proper reset now with no Europe.
While I can see where you’re coming from I don’t believe the epiphany moment will come from Levy wanting to do better but from seeing the financial impact of lowering standards on the pitch.And this was the point of the thread. I see a lot of posters seeing this as a good thing, well they've got more faith in the hierarchy that they'll do what's necessary regardless of the financial cost than I have.
If we move on 10 and bring in 5 that still gives us a 29 man first team squad with no European football. it's still far too bloated and that's without any youngsters moving up.If we clear out about 10 players and sign approx 5(GK,CB x2,CM,AM) and promote some youth this is a great chance for a full and proper reset now with no Europe.
Will not being in europe next season effect our co-efficient ranking? In the 24/25 season there is extra CL spots up for teams that did not qualify for CL with the highest co-efficient ranking.