The Mauricio Pochettino thread

[Archibald&Crooks]

Mate from memory there is a WC every four years so are you suggesting that in another three years time we can expect another shit show because some of our player's might be tired because if so that is bollocks mate, team's can still win thing's after WC clubs in other countries can still do it so what is the problem.

Post a list. You were asked to post a list. Or at least address the point being made. We all KNOW there's a World Cup every four years, we don't know how many players we will have in the next one and for how long. It's got fuck all to do with it and neither has your answer above.

You and everyone else are talking about the last World Cup. The response to your post was that we had a big majority of our players at the WC stay there literally until it ended, why not address that instead of coming up some load of old bollocks to avoid it

 

[Lighty64]

He has a track record of doing that.
I also find his substitutions mind boggling.
If you're playing shit and having a shocker you stay on. If your causing the opposition problems and having a good game you come off.
We're missing Verts today and he takes off Toby when we're down to 10 and need a result!!! Madness. So what he was on a yellow. You dont make a sub every time some picks up a yellow. I just didn't get it at all or against Ajax.

he took Toby off to make sure if we needed it, next week we could have our strongest defence in place v Everton. if Toby got sent off, and Jan isn't fit enough we would of been playing Foyth and Sanchez

 

[shelfboy68]

so you can't produce a list of Man U, Chelsea, Arsenal, and Liverpool players that played in the WC.

if we have 9 or 10 players reaching the final stages it will be even worse. the conditions they will be playing will be even more draining.

this season only Man C, and Chelsea have played more games than us, and both have squads a lot stronger thanks to owners with money to burn

I haven't bothered looking for other clubs because I'm not interested in them but you are insisting that this is the reason for the poor performance's I'm sorry I don't buy it mate.

 

[cider spurs]

Long live the Poch.

I remember Timmy. Dark times, best erased from memory.
More inclined to dance like a whirling dervish, enjoying every last morsel of delight that the Poch has brought since his arrival.

Careful what you wish for, it's okay to appreciate the here and now.

Dance bitches...dance.

 

[TEESSIDE1]

How many other clubs had as many players at the WC as we did? For as long as we did? I don't mean the group stages, go out and then come home and put their feet up, I mean all the way through to the final.

Tottenham Hotspur = excuses 101. Did we do anything to safeguard ourselves from injuries and/or fatigue in the summer or January? Nope. It’s funny how in the space of twelve months we’ve gone from laughing at the disarray at Arsenal and Chelsea to now being the ones in disarray due to piss poor management of our squad.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Tottenham Hotspur = excuses 101. Did we do anything to safeguard ourselves from injuries and/or fatigue in the summer or January? Nope. It’s funny how in the space of twelve months we’ve gone from laughing at the disarray at Arsenal and Chelsea to now being the ones in disarray due to piss poor management of our squad.

You want to write it off as excuses. Of course you do

It's not an excuse it's fact. I addressed what you said about the World Cup, why don't you do the same instead of making it about something else? But so you know, I agree that our failure to add to the squad was pretty much negligent but if that's the case then the WC must have been an issue. It's not rocket science.

 

[punkisback]

You say reluctance to strengthen...Poch wanted to strengthen the squad with players that can (there's no point buying then taking a age to rid of them) but was unable with the players he wanted, example Rabiot for Dembélé. Poch clearly is standing on principle when deciding to wait for players that will improve the squad. We've been in this position before buying players not good enough for the next level. Trippier was always going to be number 2 with Walker 1st choice until we took the 50 M was Aurier first choice?, this squad has really done while with all considered it has reached peak level we can all now clearly see. The next level is the recruitment of better players, it may not be a case of spending more money more with acquiring the right players. Poch know this and we (Levy) has to back him.

To be honest I'm waiting to see like others want is going to happened during the transfer window. If Poch is forced to downgrade and not achieve targets it will be a convenient excuse for Levy to sack him...I say this because they'll be no way Levy will allow a situation whereby Poch walks away on his terms.

The issue wasn’t about replacing players that we were selling! It wasn’t lack of quality of depth, but lack of actual players in the team!

 

[Lighty64]

I haven't bothered looking for other clubs because I'm not interested in them but you are insisting that this is the reason for the poor performance's I'm sorry I don't buy it mate.

well that's where we will not agree then, because if I wanted an argument and to be proved right, instead of being a melt everytime things ain't right, and your only excuse is lack of Levy spending.

these are not Sunday league players that go down the pub after a match and have 2or3 pints after a game. they are players that train hard for 5 days a week and have played near enough twice a week every week for 2 years. we have had a host of injuries caused by limbs that have been truly not had a rest. tiredness causes lack of concentration, and mistakes, and yes Levy and Poch where guilty of not buying, but who do you replace because the only 2 players that seriously needed replacing before the season, only 1 played a few minutes

 

[RichieS]

The issue wasn’t about replacing players that we were selling! It wasn’t lack of quality of depth, but lack of actual players in the team!

I may have missed your meaning, but if you're saying that we just don't have enough players in the squad then you're incorrect. If GK wasn't out on loan then there would be 26 players to fit into 25 registration slots I believe.

Our problems have been myriad this season, but it could easily be argued that the major one has been lack of "second XI" quality* i.e. we've had so many injuries at any given time that we've been reduced to playing a number of non-first choice players at once, which is always a recipe for disaster (it's why we never troubled the latter stages of the Europa despite nearly a decade in it). I would be amazed if we haven't used the most players of any team in the Top 4 this season (if not the entire PL).

Bizarrely, had the (extremely unpopular on here at the time) Grealish transfer gone through (and assuming he had stayed fitter for us than he has for Villa), I think we'd have had Top 4 wrapped up a couple of weeks ago as by far the biggest problems have been in CM.

*For the record, I'm not one of the people who believes any club outside of the financially doped ones should or even can seek to maintain 2 complete "starting quality" teams - it's total folly.

 

[shelfboy68]

well that's where we will not agree then, because if I wanted an argument and to be proved right, instead of being a melt everytime things ain't right, and your only excuse is lack of Levy spending.

these are not Sunday league players that go down the pub after a match and have 2or3 pints after a game. they are players that train hard for 5 days a week and have played near enough twice a week every week for 2 years. we have had a host of injuries caused by limbs that have been truly not had a rest. tiredness causes lack of concentration, and mistakes, and yes Levy and Poch where guilty of not buying, but who do you replace because the only 2 players that seriously needed replacing before the season, only 1 played a few minutes

Just because someone has a different opinion to you doesn't make them melts mate , I'm just annoyed with excuses it seems to be an on going theme at spurs but your entitled to believe what you wish.

 

[Lighty64]

Just because someone has a different opinion to you doesn't make them melts mate , I'm just annoyed with excuses it seems to be an on going theme at spurs but your entitled to believe what you wish.

not an excuse just I can see and understand why we are struggling

well if you can't see that the players are knackered then I suggest a visit to specsavers. we were all unhappy with the lack of signings last summer, but your unhappy every season with the players we do sign, the same players that have us hanging onto top 4, 2 semi finals.

your not the most positive of posters and not around as much and posting what we do right at times, and always look for the worst outcome.

 

[shelfboy68]

not an excuse just I can see and understand why we are struggling

well if you can't see that the players are knackered then I suggest a visit to specsavers. we were all unhappy with the lack of signings last summer, but your unhappy every season with the players we do sign, the same players that have us hanging onto top 4, 2 semi finals.

your not the most positive of posters and not around as much and posting what we do right at times, and always look for the worst outcome.

Lighty please find evidence of what player's that we have that I have slagged off, as for posting I will post what I want within the rules and for your info I do praise the club perhaps you should look harder rather than slag off people without foundation.

 

[ostrov]

Which proven winner should we buy this summer ?

Messi

 

[Rout-Ledge]

With all due respect to the ITKs, I’m yet to hear a coherent explanation for what happened in the TWs that comes close to convincing me Levy isn’t responsible.



Trix seems to suggest that Poch is the one who is to blame for turning down all the players he was offered, but also suggesting it was DL who ballsed up big time on Grealish. Hercules seems to think it’s Levy’s fault, and JJ sits somewhere in between.

I don’t think it’s a coincidence that the year we happen to spend nothing is also the one in which our stadium opening is delayed, with us having to continue playing at a half empty Wembley for longer than anticipated.

I don’t think the money was there. Hopefully it will be (at least to a reasonable extent) in the summer.

 

[13VanDerBale13]

Needs to get the players to practice there finishing in training, poor finishing is what ultimately cost us vs Bournemouth & if we’re not careful if could cost us vs Everton & ultimately a spot in the champions league

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

I don’t think it’s a coincidence that the year we happen to spend nothing is also the one in which our stadium opening is delayed, with us having to continue playing at a half empty Wembley for longer than anticipated.

I don’t think the money was there. Hopefully it will be (at least to a reasonable extent) in the summer.

Pretty sure you’re spot on mate also added to that we have too many non homegrown players in the squad so we have to sell them first before we can sign anyone, I mentioned this time and time again during the last 2 transfer windows but people seem to keep forgetting this.

As we sold dembele that did free up one league space at least but not a CL space.

Squad needs cleaning up in summer with about 4-6 outs first then we can fine tune and bring in the 2-3 to move us to the next level.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Needs to get the players to practice there finishing in training, poor finishing is what ultimately cost us vs Bournemouth & if we’re not careful if could cost us vs Everton & ultimately a spot in the champions league

Finishing was poor vs Bournemouth you’re right but I think that’s more the type of players the chances fell too and a lack of confidence and form rather than something that can be coached tbh.

 

[shelfboy68]

Pretty sure you’re spot on mate also added to that we have too many non homegrown players in the squad so we have to sell them first before we can sign anyone, I mentioned this time and time again during the last 2 transfer windows but people seem to keep forgetting this.

As we sold dembele that did free up one league space at least but not a CL space.

Squad needs cleaning up in summer with about 4-6 outs first then we can fine tune and bring in the 2-3 to move us to the next level.

Need more than 2/3 mate try doubling that is more like it 2/3 won't do a great deal.

 

[ATLguy]

Needs to get the players to practice there finishing in training, poor finishing is what ultimately cost us vs Bournemouth & if we’re not careful if could cost us vs Everton & ultimately a spot in the champions league

What is this thing called "finishing" which you speak of?

 

[Krule]

I would say 4/5 heading for the door...and a solid 6 to come in. Massive overhaul needed.