The Kyle Walker-Peters Thread

[Spurrific]

If Trippier and Davies put in similar performances to KWP and Serge, it's fairly likely the majority of posters in this thread would all be giving them absolute pelters.

I'm not seeing anything yet that would make me think both full backs last night are anywhere near ousting the latest whipping boys.

Either against players like Sane, Sterling, Hazard etc. would not be a good thing. Higher ceiling? I'm doubtful.

KWP STILL needs a successful loan at Championship level to develop IMO...and more protein and gym time.

We literally just watched Trippier get beaten in the air by 4'6 Sterling, proceed to be beaten to the ball with ease, then twisted into a curly wurly before falling out of the way of the cross for City's goal this weekend.

I think Trippier should still be first choice, but he has always been sketchy in a back 4 defensively. If we enjoy the majority of possession and push the other team back, he'll be fine - but if we're forced back, he's beaten more often than not. His passing and attacking guile is a massive asset for us, though - so I can always see why he gets the nod. His crossing has been fairly average of late, but not sure if that's his fault or our attackers.

 

[bat-chain]

Grew into the game and did OK. Nice to have pace on both sides.

 

[faze_coys]

Honestly think some people overreacting. He was fine today, pretty poor first half but better in the second. His first game since May for us against a fast and strong Antonio of course he was struggling a little bit
But his defensive positioning and defending 1V1 is so much better than Trippier
Poch needs to give him consistent game time, can’t just rule him out after one game

Exactly this, he did well seeing as he barley plays any football, and didnt exactly have much help in front of him. The obvious signs are there with him and they are very positive.

 

[guy]

He needs some more upper body strength, he's very slight and was pushed off the ball quite a few times.

He certainly played like someone who was rusty, understandably not his best game.

Not sure why poch doesn't want to loan him out for 6 months, would be great for him.

 

[Paolo10]

We literally just watched Trippier get beaten in the air by 4'6 Sterling, proceed to be beaten to the ball with ease, then twisted into a curly wurly before falling out of the way of the cross for City's goal this weekend.

I think Trippier should still be first choice, but he has always been sketchy in a back 4 defensively. If we enjoy the majority of possession and push the other team back, he'll be fine - but if we're forced back, he's beaten more often than not. His passing and attacking guile is a massive asset for us, though - so I can always see why he gets the nod. His crossing has been fairly average of late, but not sure if that's his fault or our attackers.

I'm talking about the apparently best full backs we have...Serge and KWP. Trippier and Davies are the whipping boys.

 

[Shadydan]

I'm talking about the apparently best full backs we have...Serge and KWP. Trippier and Davies are the whipping boys.

That's normally what happens when you don't play well...you should know you've bashed Aurier enough times on here.

 

[Paolo10]

That's normally what happens when you don't play well...you should know you've bashed Aurier enough times on here.

Yeah, because he's a fucking clown.

You can count Trippier's bad games on one hand, you can count Aurier's good games on 2 fingers.

 

[Shadydan]

Yeah, because he's a fucking clown.

You can count Trippier's bad games on one hand, you can count Aurier's good games on 2 fingers.

Right...

 

[Paolo10]

Youve been almost penetrating Serge since the transfer rumour started tbh.

You still think he should be 1st choice, yeah?

 

[Shadydan]

Youve been almost penetrating Serge since the transfer rumour started tbh.

You still think he should be 1st choice, yeah?

For now yes but I'm done having a by sort of reasonable conversation or debate with you on the matter, you don't like Aurier, never have and never will (I have my suspicions why) so its a pointless exercise trying to engage with you.

Good day sir

 

[Paolo10]

Do elaborate on your suspicion please.

I'm on tenterhooks here, I'll be surprised if it's anything other than he has little (footballing) intelligence, has let us down more times than enough and yet somehow is still lauded by some (like you) as the best right back at the club...and apparently he's much faster on this forum than reality.

 

[eddiev14]

There's a section of Spurs Twitter, mainly fronted by Windy, that really rates Walker-Peters.

Based on what I've seen, I'm not too sure if he will make the grade for us. He seems to pass and dribble fairly well, but he looks easily pushed off the ball and is a bit small/lacking in physical power when driving forward.

Maybe that stuff can be developed. I don't know. I don't think I've boarded the hype train yet though, and can see why he doesn't get regular starts at this stage.

Seems and intelligent and genuinely nice fella though, so hope he makes it.

 

[DJS]

If Trippier and Davies put in similar performances to KWP and Serge, it's fairly likely the majority of posters in this thread would all be giving them absolute pelters.

I'm not seeing anything yet that would make me think both full backs last night are anywhere near ousting the latest whipping boys.

Either against players like Sane, Sterling, Hazard etc. would not be a good thing. Higher ceiling? I'm doubtful.

KWP STILL needs a successful loan at Championship level to develop IMO...and more protein and gym time.

Expected KWP is a youngster just starting in game and doesn’t have the wealth of experience that both Trippier and Davies are supposed to both have.

 

[mpickard2087]

I think KWP is probably competing with Trippier for a place in the squad. For me in an ideal world you want an attack minded advanced fullback for those games where you're dominant, on the front foot and having all the ball, and a Kyle Walker/Aurier type who is more robust and covers ground for tougher tests where it is a bit more of a battle. Trippier out of all of them has the best body of work obviously, but he's never really nailed the spot down consistently and on both flanks the fullback spots have massive question marks about them.

As for last night, obviously there were some faults but on the whole it was a good learning exercise for him. I'd say the most disappointing bit was the goal, he got caught underneath the ball/the guy peeled off him and that was within his control. Not too worried about Antonio troubling him physically, it was mainly him getting too tight first half and he learned in the second and just pinned him back to goal most of the time. Otherwise his one v one defending is solid, and probably stacks up well against the other full backs actually. Positionally he has got to watch out for getting caught ahead of the ball and being a bit more selective about when he flies forward, but a) he's a baby in terms of a defender with basically 5 mins of adult football experience, who expects him to be perfect in this aspect, and b) that's what's asked of our fullbacks, to push right up, and at some point we've had the same discussion about all of them over the last few years.

That was a tricky test for him in a game that didn't allow him to show off his best qualities by and large. He didn't wilt or implode in tricky moments, he got through it, there's of course stuff to work on, but he's got a lot of talent and a good attitude. Lets see how he progresses. He needs more than a game every three four five six months though, at some point if they rate him they've got to pull the trigger on regular football.

 

[Paolo10]

He needs a loan, there is no way we should be blooding him in the League at this point, certainly not ahead of Trippier...or even Serge and he's a liability.

 

[DJS]

He needs a loan, there is no way we should be blooding him in the League at this point, certainly not ahead of Trippier...or even Serge and he's a liability.

Aurier was playing pretty well before his injury so a tad harsh.

And Trippier has been poor this season so not sure why so crazy to play KWP ahead of him?

 

[dtxspurs]

Aurier was playing pretty well before his injury so a tad harsh.

And Trippier has been poor this season so not sure why so crazy to play KWP ahead of him?

At this point I think he's either trolling or he's actually Kieran Trippier.

 

[mpickard2087]

Paolo is right that Aurier is getting away far too easily from scrutiny. I do suspect that with some it's that with all the fanfare to his signing they're desperately hoping not to be proved wrong, but I digress......

This season he's a couple of fairly solid games (that still had some big question marks as to what he did at various stages) alongside one or two of his headless chicken ones. He's clearly got some ability and maybe he is on the cusp of his top form and we see the player we thought we were getting, as a Spurs fan I fucking hope so, but I think the evidence is being overblown. Last night again he was all over the place for the first 25 minutes, and he looked as suspect throughout as the rookie on the other flank did, if not more so in some aspects.

 

[Paolo10]

I just can't take you seriously dtx.

 

[C0YS]

There's a section of Spurs Twitter, mainly fronted by Windy, that really rates Walker-Peters.

Based on what I've seen, I'm not too sure if he will make the grade for us. He seems to pass and dribble fairly well, but he looks easily pushed off the ball and is a bit small/lacking in physical power when driving forward.

Maybe that stuff can be developed. I don't know. I don't think I've boarded the hype train yet though, and can see why he doesn't get regular starts at this stage.

Seems and intelligent and genuinely nice fella though, so hope he makes it.

He has a good chance given time. It could take a few more years though, he may not be willing to wait that long we will see. Thing is he has always impressed in the PL, but rarely convinced when given a chance in the cups. Think going forward he is exceptional, defensively he has got someway to go. He needs a bit more upper body strenth and a bit more nous, it'll come.

I get annoyed at both sides, those who think our youth should be progressed much more quickly and those who are way to quick to judge. I don't think Poch is perfect when it comes to youth, but I think he is the best at it since I've supported the club and knows how to develop a player for sure.