The England Thread

[beats1]

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Why the fuck does he always pick at least 3 RB's and 2 LB's FFS. This time he has Alexander-Arnold, Mings, Trippier and Wan Bissaka whilst also having Chilwell and Rose not to mention Gomez used to play LB. Meanwhile we only have Rice, Henderson and Winks who actually play DM/CM FFS

I find it odd that Wilson and Lingard have made despite being inconsistent

 

[THFCSPURS19]

Why the fuck does he always pick at least 3 RB's and 2 LB's FFS. This time he has Alexander-Arnold, Mings, Trippier and Wan Bissaka whilst also having Chilwell and Rose not to mention Gomez used to play LB. Meanwhile we only have Rice, Henderson and Winks who actually play DM/CM FFS

I find it odd that Wilson and Lingard have made despite being inconsistent

Mings is a CB now tbf.

 

[punkisback]

Why the fuck does he always pick at least 3 RB's and 2 LB's FFS. This time he has Alexander-Arnold, Mings, Trippier and Wan Bissaka whilst also having Chilwell and Rose not to mention Gomez used to play LB. Meanwhile we only have Rice, Henderson and Winks who actually play DM/CM FFS

I find it odd that Wilson and Lingard have made despite being inconsistent

Gomez is also A more natural RB than LB. But your point stands.

 

[Shadydan]

Why the fuck does he always pick at least 3 RB's and 2 LB's FFS. This time he has Alexander-Arnold, Mings, Trippier and Wan Bissaka whilst also having Chilwell and Rose not to mention Gomez used to play LB. Meanwhile we only have Rice, Henderson and Winks who actually play DM/CM FFS

I find it odd that Wilson and Lingard have made despite being inconsistent

That's 3 RB's which is pointless I agree but Gomez is going as a CB surely and who else could we have called up to play CM/CDM?

Edit -What's wrong with 2 LB's?

 

[nailsy]

The three right back thing is a bit strange, especially as Walker isn't there, but I guess he wants to have a closer look at Wan Bissaka before making a decision on who his preferred two are. He probably knows it's Walker plus one other so it's probably a good chance to compare all of the other options.

Oxlade Chamberlain getting recalled feels a bit early, but I guess if he's fit and has been in his plans all along then why not?

It feels like Mount has been called up too soon as well, but he did the same thing with Hudson Odoi and Sancho and that worked out pretty well. He probably wouldn't be there if other players were fit.

 

[bceej]

The three right back thing is a bit strange, especially as Walker isn't there, but I guess he wants to have a closer look at Wan Bissaka before making a decision on who his preferred two are. He probably knows it's Walker plus one other so it's probably a good chance to compare all of the other options.

Oxlade Chamberlain getting recalled feels a bit early, but I guess if he's fit and has been in his plans all along then why not?

It feels like Mount has been called up too soon as well, but he did the same thing with Hudson Odoi and Sancho and that worked out pretty well. He probably wouldn't be there if other players were fit.

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...h-southgate-tyrone-mings-euro-2020-qualifiers

Exactly. Would have thought Foden might be knocking on the door soon - he needs to get playing or hope for an injury.

 

[nailsy]

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...h-southgate-tyrone-mings-euro-2020-qualifiers

Exactly. Would have thought Foden might be knocking on the door soon - he needs to get playing or hope for an injury.

RB is such a difficult selection for Southgate. Does he go with the two attacking options in TAA and Walker, or pick the more defensive AWB, or the guy who did so well for the team at the world cup? TAA was the stand out RB for me last season so it's probably him plus Walker for now, but it could change a lot this season.

 

[Shadydan]

RB is such a difficult selection for Southgate. Does he go with the two attacking options in TAA and Walker, or pick the more defensive AWB, or the guy who did so well for the team at the world cup? TAA was the stand out RB for me last season so it's probably him plus Walker for now, but it could change a lot this season.

It's funny - We're ridiculously blessed at RB for the future, think we have the likes of Aarons, KWP, James, Gomez, Sessegnon, Tuanzebe, Kenny etc...

Think Southgate should be planning for the future anyway and just pick TAA and AWB going forward and make them mainstays.

 

[DJS]

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...h-southgate-tyrone-mings-euro-2020-qualifiers

Exactly. Would have thought Foden might be knocking on the door soon - he needs to get playing or hope for an injury.

I’m sure I read somewhere that this is possible Silva’s last season with City and Foden is using it to watch and learn from him with a view to possibly being an option to fill the void next season?

Might see Man City start using him a bit more this season too to blood him and see if he’s up to it.

 

[Marty]

I’m sure I read somewhere that this is possible Silva’s last season with City and Foden is using it to watch and learn from him with a view to possibly being an option to fill the void next season?

Might see Man City start using him a bit more this season too to blood him and see if he’s up to it.

This is Silva's last season at City, he and the club have both been very clear on that. The players voted to give Silva the armband this season as a thank you or token of respect because he's leaving.

I think Foden shadowing Silva this season and exploding onto the scene next season is very likely.

 

[nailsy]

It's funny - We're ridiculously blessed at RB for the future, think we have the likes of Aarons, KWP, James, Gomez, Sessegnon, Tuanzebe, Kenny etc...

Think Southgate should be planning for the future anyway and just pick TAA and AWB going forward and make them mainstays.

I'm not sure. We could do well at the Euros. I think we should pick our strongest players even if it means AWB might miss out this time.

 

[Shadydan]

I'm not sure. We could do well at the Euros. I think we should pick our strongest players even if it means AWB might miss out this time.

There's a possible argument to say that AWB is in our strongest squad at the moment.

 

[beats1]

That's 3 RB's which is pointless I agree but Gomez is going as a CB surely and who else could we have called up to play CM/CDM?

Edit -What's wrong with 2 LB's?

No problem with 2 LB's but what im saying is, if anything I rather him take one RB or LB and have Gomez fill in rather than having 4 RB's (TAA, Mings, Trippier and Wan-Bissaka is ridiculous

I rather have 4 or 5 CM's offering different skillset from that position. TBH fullbacks aren't very varied to justify picking four different RB's

 

[Shadydan]

No problem with 2 LB's but what im saying is, if anything I rather him take one RB or LB and have Gomez fill in rather than having 4 RB's (TAA, Mings, Trippier and Wan-Bissaka is ridiculous

I rather have 4 or 5 CM's offering different skillset from that position. TBH fullbacks aren't very varied to justify picking four different RB's

Mings is a CB

I make that 3 RB's and 2 LB's and I reckon Gomex has been taken as a CB as well.

Trouble with CM's we don't really have much quality there to experiment although Grealish would have been nice.

 

[nailsy]

No problem with 2 LB's but what im saying is, if anything I rather him take one RB or LB and have Gomez fill in rather than having 4 RB's (TAA, Mings, Trippier and Wan-Bissaka is ridiculous

I rather have 4 or 5 CM's offering different skillset from that position. TBH fullbacks aren't very varied to justify picking four different RB's

Mings isn't a FB. Why have players who can fill in at RB when it's one of our strongest positions for available players?

You've already got 4 or 5 CMs. Barkley, Henderson, Winks, Madison, plus Oxlade Chamberlain played there before his injury. Who what would you take?

 

[beats1]

Mings is a CB

I make that 3 RB's and 2 LB's and I reckon Gomex has been taken as a CB as well.

Trouble with CM's we don't really have much quality there to experiment although Grealish would have been nice.

I seen mings play as left back and for someone reason thought that was his natural position

There is no doubt Gomez has been taken as a CB, but I still maintain I rather sacrifice a full back than take too many, albiet taking 2 is ideal for each match

I dont think Barkley should have gone since he hasn't been really getting a chance at Chelsea and rather take Grealish but actual CM, I rather take Shelvey,

Mings isn't a FB. Why have players who can fill in at RB when it's one of our strongest positions for available players?

You've already got 4 or 5 CMs. Barkley, Henderson, Winks, Madison, plus Oxlade Chamberlain played there before his injury. Who what would you take?

The problem I have is that some of those guys aren't CM's

For example Barkley, Madison and Oxlade are no.10's/CM

IF you playing a 4-3-3 in the barca mode

Iniesta ---------
-------------- Xavi
Busquets
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Now for someone to play the iniesta role we have Mount, Madison, Oxlade(why is there? Considering he isn't a starter for his team) and Barkley. For the Xavi role we have Henderson and Winks but for the DM role we only have Rice, we should take someone else.

If we were to play 4231 only imo Winks, Rice and Henderson would be good in the 2 CM roles, otherwise, we look susceptible in CM defensively

 

[nailsy]

There's a possible argument to say that AWB is in our strongest squad at the moment.

Yep, I guess that's what Southgate is trying to work out with this squad. It does really annoy me how certain players get call ups as soon as they move to a big club, but to be fair to Southgate he does pick players from smaller clubs as well.

I seen mings play as left back and for someone reason thought that was his natural position

There is no doubt Gomez has been taken as a CB, but I still maintain I rather sacrifice a full back than take too many, albiet taking 2 is ideal for each match

I dont think Barkley should have gone since he hasn't been really getting a chance at Chelsea and rather take Grealish but actual CM, I rather take Shelvey,
The problem I have is that some of those guys aren't CM's

For example Barkley, Madison and Oxlade are no.10's/CM

IF you playing a 4-3-3 in the barca mode

Iniesta ---------
-------------- Xavi
Busquets
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Now for someone to play the iniesta role we have Mount, Madison, Oxlade(why is there? Considering he isn't a starter for his team) and Barkley. For the Xavi role we have Henderson and Winks but for the DM role we only have Rice, we should take someone else.

If we were to play 4231 only imo Winks, Rice and Henderson would be good in the 2 CM roles, otherwise, we look susceptible in CM defensively

Don't forget that the manager is restricted in who he can select because of injuries. I'm sure Dier would be in the squad if he was fit. So would Dele, Hudson Odoi, etc.

Oxlade Chamberlain has been brought back into the squad quickly, but I think that's because Southgate wants to be loyal to his players. When they are badly injured he tells them that he won't forget about them and calls them back up once they are fit. It probably helps team spirit and morale so although it feels early I don't have an issue with it. Half the reason that he's been so successful is because of his man management skills.

 

[SugarRay]

The issue with TAA and AWB is they are nothing alike.

One is great going forwards and can be questionable going the other direction. The other one is basically the opposite! AWB is very very average going forward.

All depends on what he wants from his system and if he is adaptable to change if required etc

There’s a few right backs about now who would usually get plenty of caps in other eras but will only end up with a handful given the competition presently

 

[spursfan77]

Strange he hasn’t want to have a look at Grealish when players like chamberlain and Lingard are in there.

 

[SugarRay]

Strange he hasn’t want to have a look at Grealish when players like chamberlain and Lingard are in there.

I think he’s been poor so far this season

His midfield partner completely outplaying him