The Cricket Thread

[aussiespursguy]

I’d like to see the umpire comparisons with regard overturned decisions. It seems to me that Joel Wilson uses the review system as an aid a bit more than others.

I tend to agree. I think he is a good umpire, well respected amongst the players, but does not back himself as much as he should.

 

[UncleBuck]

Thing is four of them got in and got themselves out again, even if only two of them went on to score 70 each that would have given us 320 odd.
We’re just not building once we’ve played ourselves in.

 

[dellybelly]

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Thing is four of them got in and got themselves out again, even if only two of them went on to score 70 each that would have given us 320 odd.
We’re just not building once we’ve played ourselves in.

It's very frustrating because strangely, I think we've done better on this tour than we did the last time even though the result is likely to be by the same 4-1 margin. I think we were 'in' the game in three of the four tests so far but the consistency just hasn't been there. And that's the reason I wouldn't be too hard on this team. Our toughest tour with very inexperienced spinners, against one of the best teams in the world, who, at home, generally don't lose series. Tempered expectation but huge frustration, we could and may be should have done so much better.

 

[PCozzie]

I said last year during (I think) the Ashes series that Bazball was a method to free the players from the shells they had retreated to and to help them to enjoy cricket without the crushing pressure they were under, but that it was not and is not a lasting strategy to win test matches or series. It was shock-tactics, and it took every opponent by surprise.

Somewhere between the dreadful West Indies tour, and the (admittedly hugely entertaining) Ashes of 2023 is a style of cricket that suits the players we have and provides a long term model for the 5-day game. Retain some of the agressiveness and ingenuity, but respect what the opposition have and play the occasion a little more.

We shout very loudly but have quite a small bat, to mangle a famous phrase.

 

[dellybelly]

One great benefit from this tour is that Duckett has taught Jaiswal how to bat. The Indian fans will always be grateful to Duckett, Stokes and Baz.

 

[SargeantMeatCurtains]

Embarrassingly bad.

 

[TEESSIDE1]

Embarrassingly bad.

And even worse today.

The sad thing about the England team is they’ve gone from been one of the best sides in the world to needing new bowlers but persisting with dad’s army and now there’s issues with the batting as well. The majority of the ‘leaders’ have either retired or play T20 instead. There’s so many issues with this England Test side that it’s going to be many years before they’re competitive again. The ODI and T20 side is also not as good as it once was.

 

[sharky127]

Not the best of series for us but i do feel we've unearthed a potential gem in Bashir. Hartley i'm less sure of as he just isn't consistent enough, bowling far too many freebies which release any pressure we might build up. I think the jury is still out on Ahmed too but at least he offers us something different and has a fair bit of potential with the bat too.

On the batting front i think time is up for YJB but who we can bring in is up for debate whilst Pope needs to step up and start realising his potential. I think i'd also like to see James Rew get a chance with the gloves, this is harsh on Foakes who's glovework is exemplary but i think Rew his class as a batsman could be a huge asset for England.

 

[funkycoldmedina]

Not the best of series for us but i do feel we've unearthed a potential gem in Bashir. Hartley i'm less sure of as he just isn't consistent enough, bowling far too many freebies which release any pressure we might build up. I think the jury is still out on Ahmed too but at least he offers us something different and has a fair bit of potential with the bat too.

On the batting front i think time is up for YJB but who we can bring in is up for debate whilst Pope needs to step up and start realising his potential. I think i'd also like to see James Rew get a chance with the gloves, this is harsh on Foakes who's glovework is exemplary but i think Rew his class as a batsman could be a huge asset for England.

I don't think it's as bad as that. We've got a good opening partnership now, you're right about Pope needing to step up, Brook and Root make up a solid top 5. We could do with a couple of quicks/seamers coming into the picture but Bashir and Ahmed look good for potential future English spinners.
My concern is if Stokes can stay motivated/fit to develop that team because it needs brave captaincy. We'll benefit from what he's done in this series.

 

[sharky127]

Tbh i forgot about Brooks but agree on the seamers. I think Anderson could well retire from Tests after this series if he manages to pick up one more wicket to get to 700. I quite like Potts as he has that fighting spirit but not too sure about who else we have, Atkinson isn't good enough for me and Robinson is always carrying a knock.

 

[funkycoldmedina]

Tbh i forgot about Brooks but agree on the seamers. I think Anderson could well retire from Tests after this series if he manages to pick up one more wicket to get to 700. I quite like Potts as he has that fighting spirit but not too sure about who else we have, Atkinson isn't good enough for me and Robinson is always carrying a knock.

Olly Stone, but he's always carrying a knock as well. Potts is going to have to develop some consistency and guile to his bowling because he's only mid 80's.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Although you never know and all that, unless Stokes brings him on very soon, it’s starting to look like oh Jimmy Jimmy will have to wait until the summer to reach that 700 wicket milestone.

 

[LSUY]

Although you never know and all that, unless Stokes brings him on very soon, it’s starting to look like oh Jimmy Jimmy will have to wait until the summer to reach that 700 wicket milestone.

Wouldn't mind that. Bring up the milestone in the 1st Test against the Windes at Lords.

 

[UncleBuck]

Wouldn't mind that. Bring up the milestone in the 1st Test against the Windes at Lords.

Got a feeling he’ll call time on it this summer

 

[southlondonyiddo]

Got a feeling he’ll call time on it this summer

He’s only 42 in July - no age for a fast bowler these days

 

[UncleBuck]

He’s only 42 in July - no age for a fast bowler these days

I think quite a few were saying exactly that when he was 38! If he had of retired at 38 though that would have been 60 less wickets for him over 36 tests!

 

[southlondonyiddo]

I think quite a few were saying exactly that when he was 38! If he had of retired at 38 though that would have been 60 less wickets for him over 36 tests!

Still bowling well but you can see his decline in the field. Used to be a brilliant fielder

I’d be amazed if he didn’t retire after the 1st test of the summer, which hopefully brings up his 700th victim

Would be a fitting send off at Lords. Or maybe he’ll hang on until he can retire on his home ground

 

[UncleBuck]

Still bowling well but you can see his decline in the field. Used to be a brilliant fielder

I’d be amazed if he didn’t retire after the 1st test of the summer, which hopefully brings up his 700th victim

Would be a fitting send off at Lords. Or maybe he’ll hang on until he can retire on his home ground

Just looked up the fixtures for this summer, Windies and Sri Lanka is a pretty poor show.
21st August at Old Trafford against Sri Lanka would be my bet!

 

[sharky127]

He’s only 42 in July - no age for a fast bowler these days

He just needs to take a leaf out of my book and shorten his run up! Done no end of good for my consistency and has more or less eradicated my once an over beamer! If he takes heed then he's got anothr 2-300 test match wickets in him still!