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[guy]

I think that one or two of our players actually need frequent games. Some of them actually go off the boil if they don't play for the best part of two weeks. Not all of them though, and it's a pretty fine judgement to figure out the balance between that and resting them.

Maybe in the short term, but they'd probably be better off in the long run, ie in march, april of a long season

 

[EastLondonYid]

Unless players area injured, fucked or playing poorly don't change a team that is playing well and not losing.. Son doesn't deserve to be dropped.....so Alli in for injured Mason the only change needed..me thinks..

 

[Ossie85]

Son starts over Lamela for me simply because he's got more goals in him and can match Lamela's work rate. If we're comparing who's the better player for Spurs at the moment then it's a close call, but if we're comparing who was/is the better player after they each had only played 6 games for us, then it isn't a close call at all, and the more Son plays the better he'll get.

Lamela has improved a lot this season but I think he's kind of plateaued - being one footed imposes a glass ceiling on him I think, and there's even signs he's retrograded (or whatever the right word is) and, instead of keeping it simple like he had been, we're seeing a return of the step overs and delusions of being able to beat a man - I think it'll be a long time before any defender is bamboozled like Koscienly was.

Lamela has 4 in 16 and Son 3 in 12 (2 in the same game at home vs the worst opp we had in the season). I'm not so sure he has more goals in him. What I'm quite sure is that Son can't match Lamela's work rate. Not a chance.
We create less without Lamela, as seen by the 2 games he miss we scored only 1 goal and from set piece.
I think it's better to use a fast player when the opp defense is tired.

 

[JayB]

Dembele has been absolutely immense but did drift out of the game a bit on Sunday after taking that knock. Given how important he is to the team and his long history of lingering injuries, I'd personally prefer that he be given a full two weeks' rest with the holiday period looming.

Pulis is almost certainly going to look to park the bus and we won't need Dembele's ball retention and tackling prowess to dominate possession, etc. anyway. What we will need, rather, is the directness of Son and the invention of Lamela, and the havoc that their pressing high up the pitch creates.

Lloris
Walker Alderweireld Vertonghen Rose
Dier Alli
Lamela Eriksen Son
Kane​

 

[UpTownSpur]

Lamela has 4 in 16 and Son 3 in 12 (2 in the same game at home vs the worst opp we had in the season). I'm not so sure he has more goals in him. What I'm quite sure is that Son can't match Lamela's work rate. Not a chance.
We create less without Lamela, as seen by the 2 games he miss we scored only 1 goal and from set piece.
I think it's better to use a fast player when the opp defense is tired.

You seem confused, as Lamela's missed the West Ham game, in which we scored 4 and created a hatful of chances.

You previously insisted that Eriksen was incapable of making assists, yet he has made nearly twice as many as Lamela now.

Son has made 2 assists in his last 3 games, yet Lamela's only made something like 1 in 8.

Son can only score against rubbish teams? Go fish! Lamela has shown he's lethal from 3 yards but Son has shown he can get goals from 10+ yards with either foot.

He is not only quicker than Lamela, he is, crucially, stronger.

Eriksen has shown you up with your comments about him and hopefully Son will as well.

 

[Colston]

You seem confused, as Lamela's missed the West Ham game, in which we scored 4 and created a hatful of chances.

You previously insisted that Eriksen was incapable of making assists, yet he has made nearly twice as many as Lamela now.

Son has made 2 assists in his last 3 games, yet Lamela's only made something like 1 in 8.

Son can only score against rubbish teams? Go fish! Lamela has shown he's lethal from 3 yards but Son has shown he can get goals from 10+ yards with either foot.

He is not only quicker than Lamela, he is, crucially, stronger.

Eriksen has shown you up with your comments about him and hopefully Son will as well.

Not saying you are wrong, but dropping Lamela when he's finally got it going isn't right. He's been one of our best players this season and I'd rather we tried pulling out even more of his dormant potential as I still think his ceiling is higher than Son's.

 

[Young Nasty Man]

I think all things considered, you start your players who have been in the best form, and personally rest every last soul come Thursday. Start the academy against Monaco. The question for me is whether or not to start Harry? I still think Son needs to get into a groove. Reminds me of when Luka first came. Obviously two different skill sets and players but it took Luka 8 months to start ripping up the league. Son is working his tail off but is a streaky player that needs time. Maybe give Harry some rest and bring him on in the 65'? That Qarabag match may throw us off a couple of weeks and we are gonna be playing catch up for that.

This is one of the few teams I see us really struggling against. I always tell myself 2 points from struggling against TP sides. Say what you will, he coaches the most English game period and will force Spurs to try and score on set pieces. Not that I'm afraid of that because we have awesome free kick takers but I see him making Spurs really earn 3. Won't be surprised if we walk away with a draw. This is the type of match we desperately need to win of we want champions league. People will laugh at my lack of Harry but the boy needs rest especially to get through the New Year.

Lloris
Walker Alderweireld Verts Rose
Dier Alli
Lamela Dembele Eriksen
Son

 

[Ossie85]

You seem confused, as Lamela's missed the West Ham game, in which we scored 4 and created a hatful of chances.

You previously insisted that Eriksen was incapable of making assists, yet he has made nearly twice as many as Lamela now.

Son has made 2 assists in his last 3 games, yet Lamela's only made something like 1 in 8.

Son can only score against rubbish teams? Go fish! Lamela has shown he's lethal from 3 yards but Son has shown he can get goals from 10+ yards with either foot.

He is not only quicker than Lamela, he is, crucially, stronger.

Eriksen has shown you up with your comments about him and hopefully Son will as well.

You seem a little nervous, relax. We are only discussing players, and in the end it means absolute shit what we say here.

You are right, I stand corrected. I was thinking about Qarabag and Chelsea.
Eriksen had 2 assists last season. At the moment I said that, those were the facts.
I never said Son can only score against rubbish teams. I only mentioned that 2 were in the same game and against the worst defence we faced. And I did that because you said "he's got more goal in him".
"Lamela has shown he's lethal from 3 yards but Son has shown he can get goals from 10+ yards with either foot" You seem confused, iirc all 3 goals from Son were from inside the box. Lamela 3 yards?? He scored a rabona from outside the box FFS!!

Neither player has shown me up on anything because I rate both Son and Eriksen. I always have. On the other hand you seem to have an agenda against Lamela. My previous comments were never intended to criticize Son as you seem to believe, but to state in which qualities he's better or worse than Lamela. You basically said Son is better than Lamela in everything, which is just plain wrong. Son doesn't have the same work rate, and he's def not stronger.

 

[Shadydan]

Always puzzles me why people have such ridiculous agendas against our own players

 

[UpTownSpur]

Always puzzles me why people have such ridiculous agendas against our own players

Totally agree. Son's been here literally 5 minutes and some fans seem ready to give up on him.

 

[thfc12]

Lloris
Walker Alderweireld Vertonghen Rose
Dier Dembele
Lamela Eriksen Son
Kane

 

[Shadydan]

Totally agree. Son's been here literally 5 minutes and some fans seem ready to give up on him.

Indeed what's even more puzzling is people who are so desperate to have their opinions validated they lie and make up BS and twist words in order to appease their own agenda.

Can't remember who it was but someone on here called me a "Lamela truther" I just lol'd cause I didn't think anyone was that said to come up with a name like that

 

[Riandor]

Lloris
Walker Alderweireld Vertonghen Rose
Dier Dembele
Lamela Eriksen Son
Kane

Why drop Alli?

 

[UpTownSpur]

Indeed what's even more puzzling is people who are so desperate to have their opinions validated they lie and make up BS and twist words in order to appease their own agenda.

Can't remember who it was but someone on here called me a "Lamela truther" I just lol'd cause I didn't think anyone was that said to come up with a name like that

I have never lied or made up anything, someone - he who shall not be named - interpreted a post I made as making up stuff when in fact it was taken directly from Squawka.

I believe it was I who came up with the term "Lamela Truther", referring to myself and others like me, as people who speak the unvarnished truth about Lamela, because he does seem to be a player that attracts exaggerations of his prowess. One good game and he's suddenly a "50 million player" destined for "Real Madrid". What I take most objection is the constant degrading of other players by some over zealous posters and I see myself as a defender of Son, of Eriksen, of Chadli, of Mason, of Dembele, of Alli.

As I have said before, Lamela has a big role to play for us this season, and in certain games, particularly tough away games, his work rate is a welcome addition, but in games against lesser teams who will get men behind the ball, I'd choose other players like Son or Alli over him, as their superior technical ability in relation to shooting and being able to use both feet makes them more likely to come up with a goal. In these such games, I see Lamela's role being that of a "closer" like they have in baseball, someone to bring on for the last 20 minutes when leading to help seal the win.

 

[Shadydan]

I have never lied or made up anything...

One good game and he's suddenly a "50 million player" destined for "Real Madrid".

Righteo...

 

[HotspurFC1950]

Oh dear. Off to another thread.

 

[Bofbro]

Alli comes back for Mason, then the only debatable decision is Lamela or Son, I just feel Son is better served on the left of centre, so I feel Lamela will get the nod on the right.

 

[millsey]

Alli comes back for Mason, then the only debatable decision is Lamela or Son, I just feel Son is better served on the left of centre, so I feel Lamela will get the nod on the right.

Yet Son mainly played on the right in Germany

 

[Bofbro]

Yet Son mainly played on the right in Germany

No he didn't, he played central and left at Hamburg and mainly left at Bayern L

 

[kremlyn]

I have never lied or made up anything, someone - he who shall not be named - interpreted a post I made as making up stuff when in fact it was taken directly from Squawka.

I believe it was I who came up with the term "Lamela Truther", referring to myself and others like me, as people who speak the unvarnished truth about Lamela, because he does seem to be a player that attracts exaggerations of his prowess. One good game and he's suddenly a "50 million player" destined for "Real Madrid". What I take most objection is the constant degrading of other players by some over zealous posters and I see myself as a defender of Son, of Eriksen, of Chadli, of Mason, of Dembele, of Alli.

As I have said before, Lamela has a big role to play for us this season, and in certain games, particularly tough away games, his work rate is a welcome addition, but in games against lesser teams who will get men behind the ball, I'd choose other players like Son or Alli over him, as their superior technical ability in relation to shooting and being able to use both feet makes them more likely to come up with a goal. In these such games, I see Lamela's role being that of a "closer" like they have in baseball, someone to bring on for the last 20 minutes when leading to help seal the win.

Are you the Popular Liberation front of Lamela or the Peoples Popular Militant front of Lamela?

Whose version of the truth do you represent?