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Aphex

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CDK as our number 1 attacking addition would be a huge risk. Could turn out like Gil, signs, everyone realises he's not ready and he's out on loan by Xmas.

He's not even close to being in the same league or conversation as Dybala, or Martinez etc.

We need to sign proven quality this summer, people who elevate the first team immediately. CDK isn't that player.
 

CoopsieDeadpool

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My big concern of CDK, and don’t get me wrong I think he’s a very exciting prospect, is that he’s still very raw and relatively untested against high quality opponents. Yes he’s played well in a handful of European games but it’s still a big risk to have him as our 1 forward addition imo. If we were to bring him in along with a more mature forward then I would have less concerns and he could very well step up seamlessly like Kulu but Seria A is a very different prospect to the Jupiler League. As said, think he’s a big prospect and would not be against him at all but I can see it being a risky choice if he were our only addition.


Everyone is raw & untested until they're given the chance to no longer be raw and untested.

Modric was those things when we signed him & that didn't work out too badly.

But I'm biased & very much agree with Trix on this one.

All aboard the Charles The Kettle train!
 

kaz Hirai

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Pretty sure it's guaranteed group stages nowadays for the Premier league.

thanks to Liverpool and chelsea, Man city to a much lesser dominating the thing, English teams who finish 4th wont have to qualify ever again probably , maybe when it reforms and the team that finishes 5th in the league gets CL they will have to
 

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Frankly I will support us signing anyone Conte wants.

There are people who said that losing Lo Celso, Ndombele, Gil and Dele in January, and only replacing them with Bentancur and Kulusevski, would leave us somehow weaker.

The bloke knows what's up. Give him the keys.
Hopefully he will have learnt some from his Chelsea transfers. There were some good buys absolutely, but his four record signings there were: Morata, Bakayoko, Batshuayi and Drinkwater.

That being said I'm confident in Paratici and Conte can make major improvements on the squad given the backing from Levy. Outgoings will also play a really important part.
 

doctor stefan Freud

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Everyone is raw & untested until they're given the chance to no longer be raw and untested.
Modric was those things when we signed him & that didn't work out too badly.
But I'm biased & very much agree with Trix on this one.

All aboard the Charles The Kettle train!
Hope it doesn’t run out of steam
 

kaz Hirai

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CDK as our number 1 attacking addition would be a huge risk. Could turn out like Gil, signs, everyone realises he's not ready and he's out on loan by Xmas.

He's not even close to being in the same league or conversation as Dybala, or Martinez etc.

We need to sign proven quality this summer, people who elevate the first team immediately. CDK isn't that player.
agree, if we dont make CL then fine that's the profile we should continue to go for. But if we are in the CL i'd be extremely disappointed if a player with potential was our main attacking target.
This summer with CL and Conte is a chance to totally pull away from Arsenal and United with a much higher calibre squad
 

Trix

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CDK as our number 1 attacking addition would be a huge risk. Could turn out like Gil, signs, everyone realises he's not ready and he's out on loan by Xmas.

He's not even close to being in the same league or conversation as Dybala, or Martinez etc.

We need to sign proven quality this summer, people who elevate the first team immediately. CDK isn't that player.
Isn't that the point of doing due diligence on the player before hand though. It's exactly what Conte has criticised all season with our past signings. We have just bought players that look good where they are, without considering how those skillsets will transfer to the Prem. I mean he's come in taken one look at them and said, " he's not a PL player, and needs to go" either on loan or be sold.

It's why I have far more hope with upcoming transfers. We looked at many players for January, and the two we bought in have settled very quickly and are tailor made for life in the Prem. There are so many players we have enquired about so far, but I'll bet my life that most of them will be whittled down when Conte has run the rule over their suitability to play in both the EPL and his system.
 

The Scarecrow

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He's MY first choice but there are others also I'd prefer over Dybala. He's a quality player no question, I'm just not convinced he's the best fit for us, but it's not me building the squad and how it will all come together.
I'm inclined to agree, but I still really want Dybala just because he's Dybala.
 

JW72

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Everyone is raw & untested until they're given the chance to no longer be raw and untested.

Modric was those things when we signed him & that didn't work out too badly.

But I'm biased & very much agree with Trix on this one.

All aboard the Charles The Kettle train!
Isn't that what @Ghost Hardware is saying though. He maybe a great prospect but not (yet) as our main option.
 
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spurs9

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Hopefully he will have learnt some from his Chelsea transfers. There were some good buys absolutely, but his four record signings there were: Morata, Bakayoko, Batshuayi and Drinkwater.

That being said I'm confident in Paratici and Conte can make major improvements on the squad given the backing from Levy. Outgoings will also play a really important part.
Conte didn't get the players he wanted, he complained about it all season, which is a big reason why they had a poor 2nd season and the reason he left.

Michael Emenalo was Chelsea's sporting director and in charge of transfers.
 

JW72

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Isn't that the point of doing due diligence on the player before hand though. It's exactly what Conte has criticised all season with our past signings. We have just bought players that look good where they are, without considering how those skillsets will transfer to the Prem. I mean he's come in taken one look at them and said, " he's not a PL player, and needs to go" either on loan or be sold.

It's why I have far more hope with upcoming transfers. We looked at many players for January, and the two we bought in have settled very quickly and are tailor made for life in the Prem. There are so many players we have enquired about so far, but I'll bet my life that most of them will be whittled down when Conte has run the rule over their suitability to play in both the EPL and his system.
The implication is that there was no due diligence on Gil, or LoCelso, or Ndombele, or Clarke etc. Is that really true? Surely sometimes players, especially from other leagues or levels, just don't work out how you hoped?
 

jpascavitz

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Frankly I will support us signing anyone Conte wants.

There are people who said that losing Lo Celso, Ndombele, Gil and Dele in January, and only replacing them with Bentancur and Kulusevski, would leave us somehow weaker.

The bloke knows what's up. Give him the keys.
This. We need this posted everyday in this chat after a new link appears. Everywhere Conte has been he makes some sort of ugly yet beautiful frankenstein team of cast offs or players you think are just past it, sprinkled in with a couple big or smart signings here and there and then he makes magic happen.

Personally, I think it'd be even more enjoyable to win trophies with a squad full of hard working players that Twitter says isn't good enough ?
 

spursfan77

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Shock horror aggregators peddling half truths again. Absolutely boils my piss.

Doesn’t sound like he actually knows then and is speculating. As are we all.

This should be copy and pasted or posted as a sticky on every single transfer thread this summer for people to remember!
 

rossdapep

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Conte didn't get the players he wanted, he complained about it all season, which is a big reason why they had a poor 2nd season and the reason he left.

Michael Emenalo was Chelsea's sporting director and in charge of transfers.
Yeah he wasn't happy they missed out on Lukaku and signed Morata.

Bit of a strange one as you'd think Chelsea would have backed him after his first season, where I don't even think they were expected to win the title.

I bet he had a smirk to himself when they eventually signed Lukaku
 

spurs9

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Yeah he wasn't happy they missed out on Lukaku and signed Morata.

Bit of a strange one as you'd think Chelsea would have backed him after his first season, where I don't even think they were expected to win the title.

I bet he had a smirk to himself when they eventually signed Lukaku
He also wanted Bonnuci, Mertens and Alex Sandro, which was very different to what he got.
 

Trix

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The implication is that there was no due diligence on Gil, or LoCelso, or Ndombele, or Clarke etc. Is that really true? Surely sometimes players, especially from other leagues or levels, just don't work out how you hoped?
Yeah I very much think that's what he's saying. We've looked at NDombele for instance and seen a very gifted young footballer the manager likes and that will come to us so we've jumped in without considering how he'll work out in the Prem.
 

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CDK as our number 1 attacking addition would be a huge risk. Could turn out like Gil, signs, everyone realises he's not ready and he's out on loan by Xmas.

He's not even close to being in the same league or conversation as Dybala, or Martinez etc.

We need to sign proven quality this summer, people who elevate the first team immediately. CDK isn't that player.
you won't sign proven quality up front to sit on the bench most of the time - its much more likely to be a promising young player who will be happy to get game time as and when

I would still expect most of our signings to be under the age of 25 with maybe an odd free transfer to throw in a bit of experience
 

kaz Hirai

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you won't sign proven quality up front to sit on the bench most of the time - its much more likely to be a promising young player who will be happy to get game time as and when

I would still expect most of our signings to be under the age of 25 with maybe an odd free transfer to throw in a bit of experience

but that's why you sign proven quality, to push one of our usual first teamers to the bench or at least make it very competitive who gets picked each week/mid week. , there by making us stronger all round.
Like liverpool and Diaz, made it more difficult for Jota and Roberto to be as regular
 
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