If we are saying that Abbott is nowhere near ready and Craig has missed his window of opportunity that window must be quite narrow, as there’s only two years between them. Worth recalling that Mason made his Premier League debut at 23 after endless injuries and mostly unsuccessful loans
When Beckham went out on loan, Ferguson told him he had to be the best player on the pitch in every game if he wanted a future at United. Harsh but these are the standards would be premier league players have to meet. Scarlett is still young. He’ll have other opportunities to pass this test.
It might have been motivational for Beckham, but it's also just not true. Harry Kane very much did not meet that standard and he did alright!
He’s not that young - turns 20 in March. Think we have to accept it’s unlikely Scarlett ever contributes anything to spurs, same as Parrott
There is a train of thought he is not at the standard we hoped he was.
19 isn’t that young?! At 20 Harry Kane was being slated by Leicester City Fans and at 21 written off by many Spurs fans. The odds are Scarlett won’t make it - because those are always the odds - but it’s too soon to give up on him, and perhaps on Parrott, who looks like he might just be turning it round, after a shit loan (for different reasons) at Preston. The likes of Townsend and Mason had all sorts of shit loans before they got their chance at Spurs. Even Rose stunk at Bristol City, and most Spurs fans thought he was done when he didn’t immediately build on his loan at Sunderland.
First, I said it’s unlikely he ever contributes, which you agreed with in your own response. I didn’t ’give up’ on him. Second, I knew someone would bring up Kane and it doesn’t work, both because it’s like assuming you’re going to win the lottery again because you did once but also because even then Kane had done far more than Scarlett at the same age. The odds are low to begin with as you say, but it’s ridiculous not to acknowledge they are getting lower when he can’t get a game in the championship at his age. Same with Parrott - you can get excited about a 21 year old scoring 5 goals in the Dutch league as ‘turning it round’ if you want but the chances of him ever being at spurs’ level are minuscule. Its not mean, its just realistic
It was only a month at Preston. Not much to judge him on
Great straw man, but no one said he will never make it. I said it’s time to accept it’s highly unlikely, which it is. You cherry picking 4 players out of 25 years of spurs youth doesn’t disprove that.
The thing is you might as well make that statement for all our youth options. It's highly unlikely any of them will make it but that's hardly worth saying. Scarlett has a decent chance still. He can still learn from this experience too and is one of the more likely prospects to make it.
FFS the lengths people will go to refuse to to acknowledge someone isn’t doing as well as hoped is extraordinary. Scarlett has now had two bad loans in a row. He hasn’t developed as we hoped. There isn’t a zero chance he will ever be good for us (and no one ever said there was) but it’s a lot less likely than before.
Yes, l feel the lack of minutes says more about how good Ipswich are than tell us anything about Dane. But Kieran wouldn’t have wanted him if he hadn’t seen in him what other coaches have seen.
