taidgh
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He hasn't played for a youth team for ..3 seasons now? It's like calling Deki a youth player because he's 22.
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rabbikeane
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If we don't sign a striker then I think Conte might show more interest in Etete than Parrott. Due to his size and hold up play. Hope he gets a look at them both this summer.
Tottenham_God
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For me the Parrot situation is both interesting and important.
I consider his MK loan a huge success, purely from a physical, mental and tactical maturity standpoint. He played a lot of games and ended up finding a nice groove.
This next season the club must weigh up whether to loan him to a championship/lower end premier league side or have him be a squad player.
Given the amount of games and the lack of forward options, I'm leaning toward the latter. Shadowing Kane and Son whilst playing 20 odd games seems ideal to me.
I consider his MK loan a huge success, purely from a physical, mental and tactical maturity standpoint. He played a lot of games and ended up finding a nice groove.
This next season the club must weigh up whether to loan him to a championship/lower end premier league side or have him be a squad player.
Given the amount of games and the lack of forward options, I'm leaning toward the latter. Shadowing Kane and Son whilst playing 20 odd games seems ideal to me.
agrdavidsfan
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Etete apparently is gathering loads of interest, championship level teams wouldn’t be surprised if he leaves on a permanent
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What makes you think he'll leave on a perm? I would've thought another loan, at a higher level, would be in the cards because he did pretty well on his last one.
I wouldn't have thought that we'd be looking to move him on just yet
spurs9
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He is not yet good enough for us and I very much doubt he will get a lower end PL loan. In fact, he might have to make do with another League One loan, as he hardly set the league alight with 8 goals and 7 assists in 41 (34 starts) games. If he can't get a good Championship loan, I would be happy for him to go back to MK Dons to try and prove he is capable of a loan higher up.
spurs9
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1 year left on his contract and not looking like he will ever be anywhere close to challenging for a 1st team spot.
spurs9
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I don't think any of ours are ready for a PL loan. None of our U23 players would get into that Forest 1st 11 and they will be looking to upgrade on that team.
Tottenham_God
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I'm not so sure.
Harry scored 7 in 22 for Millwall before he came back to us. Hardly amazing numbers. Troy had a tough patch in the middle of the year that skewed his numbers.
If Conte likes him, I'm all for it
spurs9
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Millwall were in the Championship not League One, also Kane had 2 more loans after Millwall. If we are comparing Kane's loans to Parrott's, Troy is at the same stage as Kane's Leyton Orient (League One) loan, so had 2 x Championship loans and 1 premier league loan across two seasons, before the season Tim Sherwood game him a chance at the end of the (third) season.
Etete is definitely one of those that could be anything. Tbh I didn’t think he had a chance but I’m slowly coming round. Could be a bit of the crouch about him. Not the easiest on the eye but a lot of managers would like a 6ft 5 striker as an option. There’s definitely a niche for that of player.
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There was also some ITK that his agent was aiming to get him a move before the last loan.
rabbikeane
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We let Peter Crouch go when he was around Etete's age, after not having done much out on loan at Dulwich Hamlet and the Swedish league.
eddiebailey
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Neither the Leicester nor the Norwich loan was a success. Sherwood was of the opinion that he was ready after the Millwall loan and thought the subsequent loans a waste of time.
C0YS
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The stats don't say the whole story as he only really blossomed towards the end of the season and wasn't really playing as a striker. But I agree, there is little to suggest he is ready for the PL and he may well never be.
Having said that it would make a lot of sense to get a closer look in preason and he may well suit PL football over league 1 football, that certainly was the case regarding Ryan Mason for example.
All in all the bar that fans set for a successful loan is very low indeed. Parrott was a success at MK Dons, he kind of had to be because he was at risk of his career slipping away, but it was not a success to the level which suggests PL material and if he wasn't our player then we wouldn't consider him at all as a squad player.
Kane is an interesting example. At Millwall in the Championship he excelled. Like Parrott his numbers also don't tell the whole story, he was playing as a deeper striker and also took a while to get going.
But it was impressive enough that a PL club wanted him. Injuries got in the way and his other loan moves in the upper half of the championship were hardly successes. So it was a surprise that he managed to push himself into the first team. The same can happen to Parrott of course.
When it comes to playing at lower levels it's rarely as straightforward has if you play well you will do well in the PL and if you don't you aren't good enough. Different leagues, clubs play in different ways and players require different strengths. Etete, for example, looks set to become a very good lower league player but not sure he is that suited to the top level.
However, the comparison is forced. Kane was already considered a success in league 1 before he was 18, though he was an impact sub at Leyton Orient, and playing in the top half of the Championship is frankly a much much higher level that league 1. League one and league 2 are of a realitively similar level, going to the championship is one of the biggest leaps in football.
Kane did better than Parrott on loan for his age, but Parrott can still make it here, but the MK Dons loan doesn't support the arguement that he will or is ready to, in fact it appears to suggest the opposite.
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C0YS
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The loans may have been a waste of time, though you can still learn as a player after an unsuccessful loan. Development is what is important not 'success'. But there is no way Kane was good enough after his Millwall loan for anything aside from a bit role.
His game had personality but was lacking in key departments, particularly his hold up play. At the time I think it would be fair to say he was more suited as a number 10 or even out wide. But his Europa League opportunities also suggested he was a little raw and off the pace.
Even when Kane started getting minutes under Sherwood, he didn't really play with a lot of personality and a lot of fans had doubts about him, and when you listen to people who trained with him few thought it likely that he would become the player he did.
Kane was a player who I think was destined to really come to his own in his early 20s, he just didnt have the explosive attributes that are largely required to get a lot of game time as a striker at the top level when you are still raw.
Now, I think most of this improvement actually comes from training and not loans. In fact I think Kane showed a marked improvement in early 2013-2014 when watching the few youth games shown online. Largely playing off the left where his technique particularly stood out, his previously awkward movements were begining to get cut out and even seemed a little quicker.
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Player update | Tottenham Hotspur
We can confirm the departure of Pierluigi Gollini following the conclusion of his loan spell from Atalanta.
www.tottenhamhotspur.com
We can also confirm the departures of Development Squad players J'Neil Bennett, Kacper Kurylowicz, Dermi Lusala, Thimothee Lo-Tutala, Josh Oluwayemi, Tobi Omole and Isak Solberg following the conclusion of their contracts.
Under-18s players Jez Davies, Jordan Hackett, Khalon Haysman, Renaldo Torraj and Oliver Turner have also departed following the conclusion of their scholarships.
spursfan77
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yeah I thought he was meant to be highly thought of. Bit of a shock?
