Match Threads Spurs Vs Liverpool

[VoteMe4Prez]

I was watching the game with a Scouse supporter and even he said about how he couldn't believe the robbery they commited tonight

 

[Hotspur33]

Let’s be honest. A good performance would likely have been good enough to beat Liverpool this evening, when you look at how they are performing this season.
So I’m finding it hard to take many positives from a home defeat, that has seen us drop a place in the table.
I don’t think this squad is good enough to challenge for major honours, but I think it much more capable of playing better.
And whilst I’m not doubting Conte’s credentials, he can do a lot better.

 

[spurs mental]

I was watching the game with a Scouse supporter and he said about how he couldn't believe the robbery they commited tonight

Weird a scouser admitting to a robbery.

 

[Mattspurs1982]

“Spurs have taken 1 point from a possible 15 against Arsenal, Liverpool, Man United, Chelsea and Newcastle.”

ouch…

 

[DenverSpur]

First goal seemed like quality from a world class player in Salah. Second goal completely on Dier who unfortunately cost us there. We well deserved a point if not all three.

Agree about the second goal. For the first with 3 CBS one of them has to me marking the opposition’s top goal scorer when he’s in the area. Both Lenglet and Davies were drawn to the ball on the right leaving Salah in acres of free space.

 

[jonnyrotten]

I was watching the game with a Scouse supporter and even he said about how he couldn't believe the robbery they commited tonight

It's their speciality after all

 

[sparx100]

We played well for more than 45 minutes. Not sure what game you watched, but we pressed them very well first half, with the players at our disposal it just didn't work properly for us.

We also hit the post and bar once each that on another day go in.

I think you're just in the mindset that if we're 2 down at HT we can't have played well.

Moura did get kicked and Sess could have comfortably been given as a penalty seeing as City had one against them almost exactly the same.

We had the chances to score despite the referee tonight.

Must have watched a different first half as I thought we were slow, ponderous, second to most balls, barely creative and generally just happy to play on the back foot.

Would be interesting to see some stats comparison between the halves.

 

[Steffen]

One win in the last 20 prem meetings with them says otherwise I think.

Well, recency bias I guess. But we deserved at least 1 point today, and 3 points in both games last season. That’s 5 points dropped in three games.

 

[Steffen]

Play like that the rest of the season, and we get top 4 easily - possibly a trophy. We smashed «the Great Liverpool» without 2 of our best players.
Hopefully we’ll have a January window like the last one, and we can kick on.

 

[spurs mental]

Must have watched a different first half as I thought we were slow, ponderous, second to most balls, barely creative and generally just happy to play on the back foot.

Would be interesting to see some stats comparison between the halves.

We weren't as quick moving the ball but a lot of that was down to the players we had in the set up. We still did well and 1 down at HT I think we come back to win that game tonight.

Dier has really cost us

 

[Timberwolf]

Must have watched a different first half as I thought we were slow, ponderous, second to most balls, barely creative and generally just happy to play on the back foot.

Would be interesting to see some stats comparison between the halves.

Yeah we were pretty bad. We've certainly had a lot of worse first halves recently - we at least had a reasonable amount of the ball and weren't camped on the edge of our box - but aside from the Perisic chance and the Sess penalty call, we barely threatened and were certainly the inferior team.

In terms of half comparisons they mentioned on Sky that 11 of our 14 shots came in the 2nd half, and surely a lot of our possession did too. We were SO much better.

 

[greavesy461]

What game was everyone watching? We have FOUR of our five forwards injured, carrying knocks or literally just returning from injury. We had to start a LWB up front! We also have our best defender injured. We were well in the game until Dier made a stupid mistake under no pressure. (He’s clearly checked out until after World Cup now). Came out second half and absolutely bossed them for 45 mins. Nine times out of ten, one of the THREE very good penalty shouts get given (people seem to forget the Kane one). VAR doesn’t overturn any of them. Referee was abysmal. So glad to see Kulu back. I don’t think people realise how important he is to how we setup. For once I can go to bed thinking “we actually played well” even though we lost. Didn’t hear the booing at half time but whoever was doing that needs to grow a pair and back their team. Idiots.

 

[DenverSpur]

Fuck off are we meant to be proud of the second half, because that's four games in a row where exactly the same thing has happened. The most limp dick of first half performances with no intensity, urgency, energy, quality, ambition etc, and then all of a sudden a complete reversal after the break where suddenly we wake up. This might not be the best team/squad, we might be depleted in number, but in all these games we're showing we're eminently capable of trying to play a bit of football on the front foot with energy and demonstrably taking it to the opposition, we just don't do it until the situation absolutely forces us to.

It's an either/or. That we're deliberately playing "anti-football" and trying to get away with doing as little as possible (unlikely), or something is going wrong in the preparation. Conte/Players/Fans can all come out and say that this is not the plan, but those cries do have shades of the Mourinho era where the same things defences were being said about "he tells them to press!" or that the team weren't supposed to sit back on a lead and go into their shells. At the end of the day something in how we're preparing for matches - whether that is tactical instruction, what is being done on the training pitch, what is said during the heat of the 90 minutes, whatever - is leading to the whole collective going out and operating in that fashion, so there is an issue, and Conte and co. have to get to the bottom of it.

Sorry usually agree with most of what you have to say but I can’t agree that the first half was how you described it. We were much more on the front foot than we have been previously and created various opportunities.

 

[Mattspurs1982]

This place is wild. One day it’s doom and gloom after the first five minutes of any game no matter what’s happening. Now it’s absolutely fine to suffer a second successive home defeat against a team who haven’t won away all season and effectively played with one forward player because we weren’t as gut-wrenchingly awful as we’ve been for most of the rest of the season.

It’s like an entirely bi-polar forum.

a bit like our bi polar football team, 1st half Ergh and second half wow. It’s hard to know if we’re bad or good!

 

[JCRD]

We played well for more than 45 minutes. Not sure what game you watched, but we pressed them very well first half, with the players at our disposal it just didn't work properly for us.

We also hit the post and bar once each that on another day go in.

I think you're just in the mindset that if we're 2 down at HT we can't have played well.

Moura did get kicked and Sess could have comfortably been given as a penalty seeing as City had one against them almost exactly the same.

We had the chances to score despite the referee tonight.

We didnt play too badly first half, and was better than previous games where the first half is concerned, but what we, including myself are most likely referring to is the different approach between first and second.

When we play the way we did in the second - there are far fewer mistakes from our players - thats evident so if that is the case, why not play to our strengths? our strength is attacking and not defending in the way he wants us to. We need to play higher up which means less mistakes - that is my view and im sure the stats will show us being more successful in second halves than in first halves - there is a reason why.

 

[spurs mental]

We didnt play too badly first half, and was better than previous games where the first half is concerned, but what we, including myself are most likely referring to is the different approach between first and second.

Think the approach was fine first half. We just couldn't get the passes right, and we had too many players that seemed to be out of position at times when they launched the ball diagonally.

Honestly, going in at HT 1 nil down instead of 2 and people would be saying we did alright first half, and there wasn't much wrong with the set up. That brain fart from Dier really fucked us.

When we play the way we did in the second - there are far fewer mistakes from our players - thats evident so if that is the case, why not play to our strengths? our strength is attacking and not defending in the way he wants us to. We need to play higher up which means less mistakes - that is my view and im sure the stats will show us being more successful in second halves than in first halves - there is a reason why.

We had a LWB playing as a second striker though so the options weren't great really.

I think we tried and did play higher up first half but couldn't make the ball stick. Konate basically followed Kane around the pitch and we had nobody else but Royal to hit at times and in that case we might as well just give the ball back to Liverpool

 

[mpickard2087]

Sorry usually agree with most of what you have to say but I can’t agree that the first half was how you described it. We were much more on the front foot than we have been previously and created various opportunities.

If we're judging that on it wasn't as bad and lacking intent as some of the other first half displays recently then yeah quite probably. I think that's damning with extremely faint praise though personally, I can only say I think there was night and day difference, again, between what we did as a collective before and after the break and for the 4th game in a row only seeing us only really attaching our bollocks when we were absolutely forced to give it a real go.

 

[sparx100]

We weren't as quick moving the ball but a lot of that was down to the players we had in the set up. We still did well and 1 down at HT I think we come back to win that game tonight.

Dier has really cost us

But the same team came out after half time and started to turn the screw. It shows that we can do it but we just dont start games like it. We were forced into it by conceding 2 goals. I agree Dier was at fault for the 2nd goal but the whole team were abject in the first half.

We shouldn't be gifting teams a first half free of charge.

 

[Russ1201]

So fucking angry. At the ref. At the unfair result. At Diers stupid stupid error n an other wise good game.

and the fucking gobshite 20 something "fans" openly kicking the team rather than supporting. Absolute ****s and embarrassing cringeworthy "support".

time for the club to make noise about refereeing and time wasting- after the disgrace that was Newcastle (record low amount of time played in a game at 53 minutes)

True we need Conte to turn into Klopp after games and cry about the referees, we might get a decision then. Unreal the amount of times lpool, City and United get decisions in their favour.

 

[VoteMe4Prez]

Not calling for the club to sell Dier but he does ultimately need replacing with a better calibre replacement. He has cost us the result tonight overall