Should we now adopt Spalletti's 4-6-0 strikerless formation?

[Misfit]

Centre forward, yes. Right back though? I can't imagine there is a right back better suited to linking up on the right wing anywhere near as well as Corluka does with Lennon. I don't think we can improve on Corluka for that reason.

Yeah but he doesn't have blistering pace is occasionally beaten (unlike other RBs who are faultless and never ever get bested by highly paid, fellow professional wingers and widemen).

Apart from his usually solid defence and great range of passing/support for Lennon - he's garbage.

:roll:

 

[SpurSince57]

Look who's talking rubbish:roll: i expect better from a senoir statesman from this forum!

1.Peter Crouch has only got into double figures twice since 2004-2005! And he is our first choice CF!

2. A world class striker is a Torres or a villa or even Fabiano. If you can't tell the difference between an average player and a world class player then thank God you are not a spurs scout!

3. Whether Fabiano was cup tied or not we still wanted him because he is miles better than what we currently have. None of our forwards have scored 20gls in a season which is what world class strikers do therefore with the exception of Pav on a good day they can't cut it at the top level e.g CL or games against the other big clubs.

Please reply to my message for more footballing education.:hello:

Do you have some kind of literacy problem? Or are you suffering from a permanent head cold, high up?

We have four decent strikers. None of them is 'terrible'.

Bent scored 24 goals for Sunderland last season. I guess that makes him 'world class'.

 

[Locotoro]

Do you have some kind of literacy problem? Or are you suffering from a permanent head cold, high up?

We have four decent strikers. None of them is 'terrible'.

Bent scored 24 goals for Sunderland last season. I guess that makes him 'world class'.

Eek

Somehow I knew that one would come into the equation

 

[SpurSince57]

Well, as a footballer he may be a complete klutz, but he's sure got a knack of popping up in the right place when it comes to goalscoring. He put away one chance in four for the Mackems (and unless you're talking about Henry or RvN in their prime it doesn't get a whole lot better than that), and was around one in five for us.

Yes, it would have been nice to sign a 'world-class' striker; whether Fabiano would have cut the mustard in the EPL I don't know, and it's all academic now. The point is, we know that our current four are entirely capable of knocking in 35-40 between them—except in 2008-2009, which was hardly a typical season, every permutation of strikers we've had since Santini came in has managed that—which isn't too bad at all. That makes Ashcroft's initial premise bollocks. What we don't have is a consistent goalscoring threat from midfield.

 

[Locotoro]

Well, as a footballer he may be a complete klutz, but he's sure got a knack of popping up in the right place when it comes to goalscoring. He put away one chance in four for the Mackems (and unless you're talking about Henry or RvN in their prime it doesn't get a whole lot better than that), and was around one in five for us.

Yes, it would have been nice to sign a 'world-class' striker; whether Fabiano would have cut the mustard in the EPL I don't know, and it's all academic now. The point is, we know that our current four are entirely capable of knocking in 35-40 between them—except in 2008-2009, which was hardly a typical season, every permutation of strikers we've had since Santini came in has managed that—which isn't too bad at all. That makes Ashcroft's initial premise bollocks. What we don't have is a consistent goalscoring threat from midfield.

I wholeheartedly agree...especially with the klutz comment

 

[Dwallace]

Do you have some kind of literacy problem? Or are you suffering from a permanent head cold, high up?

We have four decent strikers. None of them is 'terrible'.

Bent scored 24 goals for Sunderland last season. I guess that makes him 'world class'.

:stupid:



FOR YOUR BENEFIT SS57 I WILL POST IN CAPITAL LETTERS SO YOU CAN CLEARLY UNDERSTAND.

1. DECENT IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH WE ARE PLAYING IN THE CL AND WE NEED TO RAISE OUR STANDARDS (SOMETHING YOU SHOULD PROBABLY DO WITH YOUR POSTS) CROUCH, KEANE, DEFOE WILL NOT CUT IT AT THAT LEVEL MATE.

2. BENT MAY NOT BE WORLD CLASS BUT HIS PERFORMANCE OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF SEASONS HAS BE BETTER THAN ANY OF OUR ''DECENT STRIKERS''

3. FINALLY I ALSO DO SEMINARS FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE CLUESS ABOUT FOOTBALL PLEASE REGISTER OAP'S GET IN FOR FREE.

 

[talkshowhost86]

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FOR YOUR BENEFIT SS57 I WILL POST IN CAPITAL LETTERS SO YOU CAN CLEARLY UNDERSTAND.

1. DECENT IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH WE ARE PLAYING IN THE CL AND WE NEED TO RAISE OUR STANDARDS (SOMETHING YOU SHOULD PROBABLY DO WITH YOUR POSTS) CROUCH, KEANE, DEFOE WILL NOT CUT IT AT THAT LEVEL MATE.

2. BENT MAY NOT BE WORLD CLASS BUT HIS PERFORMANCE OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF SEASONS HAS BE BETTER THAN ANY OF OUR ''DECENT STRIKERS''

3. FINALLY I ALSO DO SEMINARS FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE CLUESS ABOUT FOOTBALL PLEASE REGISTER OAP'S GET IN FOR FREE.

1. 'Decent' was good enough to get us into the Champions League. As I've said elsewhere we scored the goals we did last season despite having large periods without Lennon, Bale and Modric playing. With those three fit and firing and with VdV added to the mix our strikers will get more chances. As they scored goals last season without that creativity behind them shall we give them a chance with those players setting them up before we write them off?

2. Are you kidding with Darren Bent? Yes the guy is a good, maybe even a very good finisher but we saw first hand that he offers very little else. If you don't put it exactly where he wants it he won't score. Defoe can create something out of nothing, Crouch has a massive aerial threat and Keane can drop deep and add an extra dimension to our play. Bent can do none of those things.

3. Ummmm....grow up maybe?

 

[SpurSince57]

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FOR YOUR BENEFIT SS57 I WILL POST IN CAPITAL LETTERS SO YOU CAN CLEARLY UNDERSTAND.

1. DECENT IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH WE ARE PLAYING IN THE CL AND WE NEED TO RAISE OUR STANDARDS (SOMETHING YOU SHOULD PROBABLY DO WITH YOUR POSTS) CROUCH, KEANE, DEFOE WILL NOT CUT IT AT THAT LEVEL MATE.

2. BENT MAY NOT BE WORLD CLASS BUT HIS PERFORMANCE OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF SEASONS HAS BE BETTER THAN ANY OF OUR ''DECENT STRIKERS''

3. FINALLY I ALSO DO SEMINARS FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE CLUESS ABOUT FOOTBALL PLEASE REGISTER OAP'S GET IN FOR FREE.

You realise that capital letters actually make your claptrap more difficult to read? No? Probably a good thing.

Frankly, I'd get more football knowledge from my Tony the Talking Turd desk toy than from you. What did you say the 'D' stood for?

 

[fatpiranha]

i wouldn't say that our strikers are terrible but they are clearly inadequate for the task ahead. Keane was a good striker who has lost some pace. Crouch has never been prolific. Pavlyuchenko is probably our best hope simply for his unpredictability.

Defoe is the player who is our most prolific goalscorer but his record against good defences is simply appalling. Since joining Spurs he has played 47 times against the traditional 'Top 4' scoring 5 goals, one of which was a penalty and another an extra time goal against a Liverpool reserve side in the Carling Cup. It included a run of 32 consecutive appearances for Spurs against the 'Top 4' teams without scoring a single goal. Compare with the much maligned Darren Bent who in 20 games for us and Sunderland (although most of his appearances for us against the Top 4 were as a substitute) has managed 8 goals.

Let's hope that either Pav comes good or we get another striker in in January as most of our games this season will either be against good defences or weaker teams that park the bus.

 

[Original # 10]

Our midfielders are fantastic
Our 'dreadful' strikers will lap up the amount of ammunition they will receive
Its not our strikers that have been letting us down its the creative midfielder to unlock stubborn defences that meant we lost a few silly games last season.
I'm assuming Modric wont be out for 4/5 months this season and hope RVDV gets a good bill of health.
Then we'll be rocking.
So no
4-6-0 is a total no no for me

 

[Dwallace]

1. 'Decent' was good enough to get us into the Champions League. As I've said elsewhere we scored the goals we did last season despite having large periods without Lennon, Bale and Modric playing. With those three fit and firing and with VdV added to the mix our strikers will get more chances. As they scored goals last season without that creativity behind them shall we give them a chance with those players setting them up before we write them off?

2. Are you kidding with Darren Bent? Yes the guy is a good, maybe even a very good finisher but we saw first hand that he offers very little else. If you don't put it exactly where he wants it he won't score. Defoe can create something out of nothing, Crouch has a massive aerial threat and Keane can drop deep and add an extra dimension to our play. Bent can do none of those things.

3. Ummmm....grow up maybe?

ummmmm..... shut up maybe?

 

[Dwallace]

You realise that capital letters actually make your claptrap more difficult to read? No? Probably a good thing.

Frankly, I'd get more football knowledge from my Tony the Talking Turd desk toy than from you. What did you say the 'D' stood for?

:duh:

So let me get this clear you get your football knowledge from a talking turd? hmm... ok i know your old SS57 but it sounds like you may have gone senile just relax take of your slippers sit in your chair and have a nice evening nap.:rofl:

 

[ethanedwards]

1. 'Decent' was good enough to get us into the Champions League. As I've said elsewhere we scored the goals we did last season despite having large periods without Lennon, Bale and Modric playing. With those three fit and firing and with VdV added to the mix our strikers will get more chances. As they scored goals last season without that creativity behind them shall we give them a chance with those players setting them up before we write them off?

2. Are you kidding with Darren Bent? Yes the guy is a good, maybe even a very good finisher but we saw first hand that he offers very little else. If you don't put it exactly where he wants it he won't score. Defoe can create something out of nothing, Crouch has a massive aerial threat and Keane can drop deep and add an extra dimension to our play. Bent can do none of those things.

3. Ummmm....grow up maybe?

Well he must be able to do something, after all he outscores our forwards, may not be flashy but knows where the old onion bag is.

 

[sim0n]

Well, as far as the actual topic goes, I don't think a strikerless formation is a good idea. Everton is going to try it today, so let's see how they get on:

"Everton boss David Moyes has gone without a recognised striker in his team - an intriguing way to combat the chronic lack of goals that have undermined their start to the season. Plenty of threat provided by the likes of Tim Cahill and Marouane Fellaini though."

No logic in it for me, but what do I know :shrug:

Nah, fuq that. No striker in the line up is daft :duh:

 

[mil1lion]

It worked for Everton last season. But it also suited their style of play, to get plenty of crosses in for Fellaini and Cahill to attack.

 

[AW?]

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FOR YOUR BENEFIT SS57 I WILL POST IN CAPITAL LETTERS SO YOU CAN CLEARLY UNDERSTAND.

1. DECENT IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH WE ARE PLAYING IN THE CL AND WE NEED TO RAISE OUR STANDARDS (SOMETHING YOU SHOULD PROBABLY DO WITH YOUR POSTS) CROUCH, KEANE, DEFOE WILL NOT CUT IT AT THAT LEVEL MATE.

2. BENT MAY NOT BE WORLD CLASS BUT HIS PERFORMANCE OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF SEASONS HAS BE BETTER THAN ANY OF OUR ''DECENT STRIKERS''

3. FINALLY I ALSO DO SEMINARS FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE CLUESS ABOUT FOOTBALL PLEASE REGISTER OAP'S GET IN FOR FREE.

Not defending SS57 because he can fight his own battles, but it's ironic how you're accusing senility when you clearly need to grow up a bit.

And the thing about our strikers and Bent, well, in fact why am i even bothering to reply to such dribble? Crouch whilst not being the best striker in the world has scored goals on every level he's played at and Defoe? well who knows what he could do in the CL he hasn't even been in it before.

You're a fucking embarrassment.

 

[sim0n]

It worked for Everton last season. But it also suited their style of play, to get plenty of crosses in for Fellaini and Cahill to attack.

Everton got lucky at the end. At 3-1 they put a striker in (Yakubu) and scored 2 goals at the death...

4-6-0 is naff

 

[mil1lion]

With goals from Pienaar and Arteta