Sergio Aguero

[brendanb50]

Could be, but personally think it could be to do with how much players are pushed physically these days. Expected to go full pelt in training and games, and playing almost non stop.

There is too much football being played.

The thing that makes me a touch more suspicious though is that whilst I agree that the level of fitness and condition required to play the game at the top level now is very physically demanding, the level of care and health support available is suitably the best around as well.

The odd thing in some of these cases is that you'd presume any heart-based issues, no matter how small, would be spotted before things came to a head like they've done in some instances. We obviously don't have the benefit of their personal medical data, nor should we but either we have a serious flaw in the level of screening at the top level of the sport or there's another issue creating this impact.

Where I'm not well informed enough to really pick it apart is whether the screening for heart issues does need improving (seems odd that this wouldn't be exceptionally strong given the nature of the game and the value of the 'assets'), whether the instances of naturally occurring or genetic issues are higher in these players than the general public as a whole (that would seem unlikely), or whether those conditions are potentially a convenient way to hide the development of an issue caused by something else - either natural strain due to the level of fitness required or catalysts for that strain such as PEDs.

 

[carmeldevil]

Could be, but personally think it could be to do with how much players are pushed physically these days. Expected to go full pelt in training and games, and playing almost non stop.

There is too much football being played.

It's very possible. There's more emphasis on running in zones (Z1, Z2, etc) to train your heart for extreme athletic activity than going all out all the time. I don't know if this is supported by research though.

 

[Giovanni]

It's very possible. There's more emphasis on running in zones (Z1, Z2, etc) to train your heart for extreme athletic activity than going all out all the time. I don't know if this is supported by research though.

Whichever way you look at it, its far more common this year amoungst top level sports people.

 

[Marty]

Whichever way you look at it, its far more common this year amoungst top level sports people.

One year isn't a trend though.

If you have six cases over ten years but five of those six are in the same year, it's an unfortunate coincidence. We need to gather a lot more data for several more years to find out if there is a possible correlation.

But as of now, correlation does not equal causation. There isn't enough long term evidence (yet) to support causation.

 

[whitesocks]

I wouldn't be surprised to see a link to the caffeine energy drinks a lot of top teams seem to use.

There is an established link between high doses of caffeine and cardiac arrest/irregular heart beats.
Caffeine is a legal performance enhancer, so it wouldn't surprise me if it has become as part of the dressing room routine as quartered oranges used to be.

It makes me wonder if in the first half against leeds, was the team denied their enhancer? Half time, conte cracked open a barrel of redbull.

They are not footballers any more (maybe with the exception of ndombele), but athletes. Footballers ran on cigarettes and beer - near harmless performance levellers. These athletes run on different fuel, and for all this wengeren talk of good diet and banning working class staples like ketchup, they perhaps are just trying to compensate for all the enhancers they are making the players take.

 

[Giovanni]

One year isn't a trend though.

If you have six cases over ten years but five of those six are in the same year, it's an unfortunate coincidence. We need to gather a lot more data for several more years to find out if there is a possible correlation.

But as of now, correlation does not equal causation. There isn't enough long term evidence (yet) to support causation.

Yes i understand and in time hopefully all will become clearer (hopefully) and revealed.
I follow a few different sports and my general point was that these incidents are more common now in all sports and whilst they are not all presented by the media a bought to the publics attention it is still happenings but my worry is the lack of openness on what is being done to better understand what is happening. Is it covid? is it some kind of interaction with the vaccine to some people? potentially one linked to the lungs or most probably the heart?

Abstract 10712: Observational Findings of PULS Cardiac Test Findings for Inflammatory Markers in Patients Receiving mRNA Vaccines

This clinic has been using the PULS Cardiac Test (Predictive Health Diagnostics Co., Irvine, CA) a clinically utilized measurement of multiple protein biomarkers, which generates a score predicting t

www.ahajournals.org

Who knows? Time will tell.

 

[mstill13]

I remember reading somewhere that Erisken was unvaccinated at the time. Isn't that true?

The take up in footballers is quite low isn't it?

Is there any information on if these players that have had incidents are vaccinated?

 

[McFlash]

Until we know something definite, can we please not flood this thread with too much covid chat, just thoughts and memories of Kun.

My mental health has taken an absolute battering of late and football chat on this place is my escape.

 

[Giovanni]

I remember reading somewhere that Erisken was unvaccinated at the time. Isn't that true?

The take up in footballers is quite low isn't it?

Is there any information on if these players that have had incidents are vaccinated?

I believe eriksen wasnt, no. Although all of sheff uniteds players are jabbed.
Non the less i sure hope its something thats looked at, its hardly a good look having these incidents occuring more frequently and ignoring the subject thus normalising them.

 

[Giovanni]

FC Sheriff's Traore goes down clutching chest sparking concern vs Real Madrid

FC Sheriff Tiraspol star Adama Traore had to receive medical treatment during his side's Champions League encounter against Real Madrid having gone to ground clutching his chest

www.mirror.co.uk

AGAIN. Still not much of a fuss about it though, nothing to see here, everythings ok.

Head, sand, bury.

 

[Giovanni]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/16848929/wigan-charlie-wyke-collapsed-training/amp/

Unfortunatly another today, hmm

 

[TheTanguy]

 

[mr ashley]

Pretty classless from guillem Balague and the other journalists breaking this story.
If the man is set to announce his own retirement, why not let him announce it himself?
Not sure how the public benefit from knowing this in advance

 

[Spurslove]

Pretty classless from guillem Balague and the other journalists breaking this story.
If the man is set to announce his own retirement, why not let him announce it himself?
Not sure how the public benefit from knowing this in advance

As far as Sky are concerned, I don't think it's got anything to do with respecting Aguero's right to announce his own retirement, much more to do with being the first to break the news.

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[mr ashley]

As far as Sky are concerned, I don't think it's got anything to do with respecting Aguero's right to announce his own retirement, much more to do with being the first to break the news.

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I think that balague tbh. Then everyone else (sky, bbc etc) just jump on

 

[WalkerboyUK]

Retirement confirmed.

Sergio Aguero: Barcelona forward announces retirement from football at 33 due to heart condition diagnosis

Sergio Aguero suffered chest pains and dizziness during Barcelonas 1-1 draw with Alaves in October; striker was ruled out for three months after cardiac tests, but has now decided to retire; Aguero joined Barca in the summer from Manchester City, where he is the clubs record goalscorer

www.skysports.com

 

[hughy]

Terrorised us for years, one of the absolute best to have ever played in the Premier League.

 

[CantSmileWithoutYou]

A phenomenal Striker.

 

[GioW]

What a player

 

[ajspurs]

Nice touch.