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shelfmonkey

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Whoever we get out of Chelsea, Utd or Leicester, bearing in mind the VAR non decision yesterday, I'm willing to bet the game will be decided by the very same scenario going against us, by that I mean our opponents will have the winning goal ruled offside, only for VAR to rule it onside, even though to everyone watching it will be as inconclusive as yesterday.
 

mark87

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The draw takes place from 6:15 tonight, unless the Leicester Chelsea game goes into extra time then it will be a bit later.

We are ball number 1.
 

nuttynoah

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Jul 21, 2004
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Wigan in the semi, Leicester in the final.

VAR seems like a way of getting in-game adverts, money rules footall atm.
 

Trix

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Jul 29, 2004
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Trix my dear fellow, where is your Derring-do?

I left it back in the 1990's when money started to dictate who won what. We haven't won a trophy for over a decade, so for me the glory will be in seeing it lifted, I don't care who we beat on the way to doing that as long as we do.
 

Gb160

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I might be imagining it but didn't MOTD show the view that the var got to see, that Tv audiences didn't during the match, that showed Sonny clearly about two foot offside.
It was looking directly across the line, not that daft view from an angle with the lines drawn across the pitch.
 

BringBack_leGin

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No quite, what he said was if it wasn't conclusive via VAR(and it wasn't) then they have to go with the infield decision given by the linesman. He said it was his opinion that it was just onside, but that VAR did not conclusively show that it was. As far as the VAR regulations go the decision was the correct one IMO.

Agreed. I actually think VAR was fine yesterday. It was used without any delay to confirm that there was no foul in the build up to our goal. Then when Son scored it didn't show conclusively whether the ref was right or not, so it stuck with the ref.
 

mark87

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I might be imagining it but didn't MOTD show the view that the var got to see, that Tv audiences didn't during the match, that showed Sonny clearly about two foot offside.
It was looking directly across the line, not that daft view from an angle with the lines drawn across the pitch.

There's no way he was two foot offside, at half time during the game BT Sport showed he was offside by half of his foot, so the correct decision was made.
 

cider spurs

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Don't care. But what I will say...shouldn't be about whom we wish to avoid, I'm pretty sure that all remaining teams will be hoping to avoid Spurs.

Rightly so.
 

jonnyrotten

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Aug 16, 2006
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Don't care. But what I will say...shouldn't be about whom we wish to avoid, I'm pretty sure that all remaining teams will be hoping to avoid Spurs.

Rightly so.
I care. Because getting United or Chelsea reduces our chances of winning the thing. Wigan semi, Leicester final please.
 

TheChosenOne

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I left it back in the 1990's when money started to dictate who won what. We haven't won a trophy for over a decade, so for me the glory will be in seeing it lifted, I don't care who we beat on the way to doing that as long as we do.

This /\

Every decade of my life (b.1955) has seen my beloved Spurs win at least one trophy.

We have not won a trophy in this present decade so i want some silverware - especially for the new WHL.

Hurry up.
 

Doctor Dinkey

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Jul 6, 2013
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Whoever we get out of Chelsea, Utd or Leicester, bearing in mind the VAR non decision yesterday, I'm willing to bet the game will be decided by the very same scenario going against us, by that I mean our opponents will have the winning goal ruled offside, only for VAR to rule it onside, even though to everyone watching it will be as inconclusive as yesterday.
We're doomed, I tell ye!
 

Mullers

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I care. Because getting United or Chelsea reduces our chances of winning the thing. Wigan semi, Leicester final please.
We could still lose either of those. I remember that people thought the semi final with Portsmouth would be a walk over. Wigan already put out Man City.
We are going to have to work our arses off whoever we play.
 

hutchiniho

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Mar 19, 2006
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The VAR ref/pundit said something along the lines of it was hard to 100% confirm Son was onside. So if there was doubt they would rule it offside. He was then pressed whether he thought Son was on or off and he said on.

So VAR is obviously not fool proof as it still relies on human interpretation!

I didn’t mind this at all. Video should be used to overturn clear mistakes.

Boarder line calls should stay on field.
 

Phomesy

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The Taiwanese channel I was watching seemed to show Son's goal was onside yesterday, but there was no commentary in the bar, yet VAR ruled it offside. Was it mentioned much by the commentators? Didn't affect the result in the end, but they seem to be making a few dodgy calls with it.

VAR just ruled that the linesman hadn't made an "clear and obvious error". Which was true. It was too tight.

If the linesman had ruled Son onside and it had gone to VAR the decision would have been the same.

This is how VAR is supposed to work. Against Rochdale when Lamela's goal was over-ruled, VAR was used incorrectly.
 

Gb160

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There's no way he was two foot offside, at half time during the game BT Sport showed he was offside by half of his foot, so the correct decision was made.
This is the image MOTD came up with their jiggery pokery:
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Ive paused it to screenshot it, but that was a still image from when the ball was played, the problem with those angled shots BT were showing is people are always looking at their feet, tells a different story when seen across the line, which is obviously what the lineman could see, and why he flagged..
 

TheChosenOne

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Whoever we get out of Chelsea, Utd or Leicester, bearing in mind the VAR non decision yesterday, I'm willing to bet the game will be decided by the very same scenario going against us, by that I mean our opponents will have the winning goal ruled offside, only for VAR to rule it onside, even though to everyone watching it will be as inconclusive as yesterday.


But at least the FA confirmed the VAR ruling was a mistake for Lamela's goal against Rochdale. So it was all okay in the end.
No harm done eh ?

http://www.skysports.com/football/n...ly-disallowed-tottenham-goal-against-rochdale
 

hutchiniho

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I might be imagining it but didn't MOTD show the view that the var got to see, that Tv audiences didn't during the match, that showed Sonny clearly about two foot offside.
It was looking directly across the line, not that daft view from an angle with the lines drawn across the pitch.

What I haven’t worked out yet is why we don’t have a touchline camera whizzing up and down, as you see tracking the 100m.

If that can keep up with the fastest in the world surely someone could joystick that left and right in play. Then they’d always be a camera bang in line. Not of this line drawing none sense from a non conclusive angle.
 
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