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Player Roger Ibañez

bungle4

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Maldini and Irwin did ok. Loads of more recent examples as tactics evolve as well.
 

p.l.edmonds

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That’s a right footed left back.
I’m talking about left footed right backs
I've had this thought about left-footed right backs before too. I literally can't think of a single one, ever.

I think I recall Benni Assou-Ekotto shifting to RB for half a match when we lost an RB (or two) to injury / red cards. I think it would have been under Redknapp. It was the most out-of-position I've ever seen anyone look, like we'd have been better with literally anyone else (or possibly nobody) out there. And that's not a dig at Benni, I thought he was alright in Redknapp's team; it's just how alien it felt.
 

jimbo

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Agree it’s odd- although not as odd as when we use right footed left backs (when has there been a left footed right back ever?)
My guess is that it's to do with the fact that left-footed players are rarer, so there's much less need for a left-footed right-back than a right-footed one. If you're strongest position is full-back and you're left-footed then you're going to be a left-back, if you're right-footed then you might be either depending on what the team you're developing in needs.
 

Stoof

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My guess is that it's to do with the fact that left-footed players are rarer, so there's much less need for a left-footed right-back than a right-footed one. If you're strongest position is full-back and you're left-footed then you're going to be a left-back, if you're right-footed then you might be either depending on what the team you're developing in needs.
YOU are strongest position.
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

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Why are Roma so happy to sell him? Do we have any regular watchers of Serie A on here that could give some insight.

He seems to have a lot of the qualities we are looking for to work in a high line - fast, aggressive, decent enough on the ball, can play left or right centre back.

I would still be disappointed if we didn't manage to sign Laporte as well but at 30m euros Ibanez does seem like a good squad signing to replace Sanchez/Tanganga/Dier/Rodon.

EDIT: I've just read this https://onefootball.com/es/noticias/roma-look-to-sell-roger-ibanez-due-to-ffp-issues-37625556
 

Tucker

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Why are Roma so happy to sell him? Do we have any regular watchers of Serie A on here that could give some insight.

He seems to have a lot of the qualities we are looking for to work in a high line - fast, aggressive, decent enough on the ball, can play left or right centre back.

I would still be disappointed if we didn't manage to sign Laporte as well but at 30m euros Ibanez does seem like a good squad signing to replace Sanchez/Tanganga/Dier/Rodon.

EDIT: I've just read this https://onefootball.com/es/noticias/roma-look-to-sell-roger-ibanez-due-to-ffp-issues-37625556
That was going to be my uninformed guess, they can flog him and get a comprable defender (that probably suits Jose’s team better) in on a free.
 

Timberwolf

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Is he any good in the air? Feel like if we're want a partner for Romero we could really use someone tall and dominant in the air while looking at the stats Ibanez is below average for aerials won.

Edit: sorry for asking a question @EastMeonYid
 
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wrd

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I'm still hoping for Laporte but I can see how Ibanez plus Theate would make sense. Though saying that, Theate will be expensive himself, so I've completely undermined myself here, should probably stop typing, why is it still going, why won't I stop, it's like a sickness, please stop, please stop, why won't it stop.
 

coy-spurs1882

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Why are Roma so happy to sell him? Do we have any regular watchers of Serie A on here that could give some insight.

He seems to have a lot of the qualities we are looking for to work in a high line - fast, aggressive, decent enough on the ball, can play left or right centre back.

I would still be disappointed if we didn't manage to sign Laporte as well but at 30m euros Ibanez does seem like a good squad signing to replace Sanchez/Tanganga/Dier/Rodon.

EDIT: I've just read this https://onefootball.com/es/noticias/roma-look-to-sell-roger-ibanez-due-to-ffp-issues-37625556
unrealistic but I want all of them replaced (Rodon does not need replacing as he is not part of the squad though)
 

Nick-TopSpursMan

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Is he any good in the air? Feel like if we're want a partner for Romero we could really use someone tall and dominant in the air while looking at the stats Ibanez is below average for aerials won.

Edit: sorry for asking a question

I'm concerned about Ibanez as he is known for making big errors but this in bold needs a bit more context.

Whilst you are correct that for Aerials Won he is at 1.96 (44th percentile) which is average, arguably the most important stat is Aerial Win % and for this he sits at 68.5% which puts him in the top 86th percentile which is very good.

This likely means that for whatever reason he isn't contesting a huge amount of aerial duels. This could be for a number of reasons. If he's playing as a LCB in a 3 he may not have to deal with a high volume of high balls etc. Perhaps Roma's style means he isn't the CB who engages aerial balls primarily etc. The only way to analyse this further is live/video scouting. But purely in terms of his win % he's doing very well aerially.
 

Timberwolf

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I'm concerned about Ibanez as he is known for making big errors but this in bold needs a bit more context.

Whilst you are correct that for Aerials Won he is at 1.96 (44th percentile) which is average, arguably the most important stat is Aerial Win % and for this he sits at 68.5% which puts him in the top 86th percentile which is very good.

This likely means that for whatever reason he isn't contesting a huge amount of aerial duels. This could be for a number of reasons. If he's playing as a LCB in a 3 he may not have to deal with a high volume of high balls etc. Perhaps Roma's style means he isn't the CB who engages aerial balls primarily etc. The only way to analyse this further is live/video scouting. But purely in terms of his win % he's doing very well aerially.
Thanks - that's encouraging to hear (except for the big errors part).
 

Japhet

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Why are Roma so happy to sell him? Do we have any regular watchers of Serie A on here that could give some insight.

He seems to have a lot of the qualities we are looking for to work in a high line - fast, aggressive, decent enough on the ball, can play left or right centre back.

I would still be disappointed if we didn't manage to sign Laporte as well but at 30m euros Ibanez does seem like a good squad signing to replace Sanchez/Tanganga/Dier/Rodon.

EDIT: I've just read this https://onefootball.com/es/noticias/roma-look-to-sell-roger-ibanez-due-to-ffp-issues-37625556

They're after Ndicka on a free I think.
 

carpediem991

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Wouldn't be surprised if a swap Ibanez - Hojbjerg could be on the cards. Mourinho likes Pierre and showed interest before.
 

Timberwolf

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For all the talk of Jose, is he actually going to stay? Seemed like he was nailed on to leave Roma given his comments and the links to various jobs at the end of the season. Feel like he's probably done about everything he can do there - hard to see him getting the type of financial support he got in the last 2 seasons again given they missed out on CL and have FFP issues.
 

FrankSpencer

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I'm concerned about Ibanez as he is known for making big errors but this in bold needs a bit more context.

Whilst you are correct that for Aerials Won he is at 1.96 (44th percentile) which is average, arguably the most important stat is Aerial Win % and for this he sits at 68.5% which puts him in the top 86th percentile which is very good.

This likely means that for whatever reason he isn't contesting a huge amount of aerial duels. This could be for a number of reasons. If he's playing as a LCB in a 3 he may not have to deal with a high volume of high balls etc. Perhaps Roma's style means he isn't the CB who engages aerial balls primarily etc. The only way to analyse this further is live/video scouting. But purely in terms of his win % he's doing very well aerially.
Smalling is the person that often goes for the aerial duals.
 
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