Quotas for foreign players in squads/teams

[JimmyG2]

Glen Hoddle thinks this would be a good idea to prevent foreign players 'blocking' English players.
The influx of foreign players/ managers has certainly had a positive impact in terms of skills and ideas.
But has it gone too far.
Spain has 60%+ native players in their leagues: Germany has 50%+
England have less than a third.
The Spanish and German teams are currently more successful than we are.
Coincidence; cause; or effect?.
Would it work or are their unforseen consequencies.

 

[SpursMad]

Glen Hoddle thinks this would be a good idea to prevent foreign players 'blocking' English players.
The influx of foreign players/ managers has certainly had a positive impact in terms of skills and ideas.
But has it gone too far.
Spain has 60%+ native players in their leagues: Germany has 50%+
England have less than a third.
The Spanish and German teams are currently more successful than we are.
Coincidence; cause; or effect?.
Would it work or are their unforseen consequencies.

It goes against the original purpose of the premier league. You want the best league in the world then you have to get the best players in the world participating. Wold is flat and all of that.

 

[beats1]

Disagree with this completely I follow alot of youth football and imo the problem isnt foreigners as we have better players than most of the world and yet they are run better and have a better understanding of the game to out perform us.

The problem here is we revere the wrong players and are run by and dominated by people and players with out footballing intelligence

People Like Lampard(who is intelligent off the ball with his runs but fuck all) and Gerrard prove this they are called world class but for England the best they can do is get out of the group stage and win the first knock out game. Pretty pathetic tbh.

I have seen so many intelligent great little players shunned because at they end of they day, they don't catch the eye and are not match winners

At the end of the day what does it say when people talk of gerrard as a legend and just name two games to justify it. CL final and beating west ham

In England we need a change of culture not a change in rules. If a player is playing for a PL team he should be better than a player who is playing in a sub standard league. Bayern and Dortmund domination with Barca and Madrid is helping their team be better. However would we beat Spain minus those teams and Germany minus Bayern and Dortmund. I dont think they would.

Also england stop need to picking names and start picking teams that is the reason why we may not make the World Cup because no other country would blame everything except the players themselves(Gerrard, Lampard and etc.). I mean we are also saying our supposedly world class players dont have enough world class players around them lol, which is funny because I can only name one world class player in the whole WCQ group for the other teams(Lewandoski)

 

[OmarsComing]

Disagree with this completely I follow alot of youth football and imo the problem isnt foreigners as we have better players than most of the world and yet they are run better and have a better understanding of the game to out perform us.

The problem here is we revere the wrong players and are run by and dominated by people and players with out footballing intelligence

People Like Lampard(who is intelligent off the ball with his runs but fuck all) and Gerrard prove this they are called world class but for England the best they can do is get out of the group stage and win the first knock out game. Pretty pathetic tbh.

I have seen so many intelligent great little players shunned because at they end of they day, they don't catch the eye and are not match winners

At the end of the day what does it say when people talk of gerrard as a legend and just name two games to justify it. CL final and beating west ham

In England we need a change of culture not a change in rules. If a player is playing for a PL team he should be better than a player who is playing in a sub standard league. Bayern and Dortmund domination with Barca and Madrid is helping their team be better. However would we beat Spain minus those teams and Germany minus Bayern and Dortmund. I dont think they would.

Also england stop need to picking names and start picking teams that is the reason why we may not make the World Cup because no other country would blame everything except the players themselves(Gerrard, Lampard and etc.). I mean we are also saying our supposedly world class players dont have enough world class players around them lol, which is funny because I can only name one world class player in the whole WCQ group for the other

Jakub Baszczykowski says hi

And Lampard and Gerrard are no longer world class.

 

[beats1]

Jakub Baszczykowski says hi

He isnt world class and then would you call PEA and Mkhitaryan world class because they are ahead of him but yet arent considered world class

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Glen Hoddle thinks this would be a good idea to prevent foreign players 'blocking' English players.
The influx of foreign players/ managers has certainly had a positive impact in terms of skills and ideas.
But has it gone too far.
Spain has 60%+ native players in their leagues: Germany has 50%+
England have less than a third.
The Spanish and German teams are currently more successful than we are.
Coincidence; cause; or effect?.
Would it work or are their unforseen consequencies.

I think Glenn Hoddle should stick to what he does best. Playing football in the 1980's.

 

[RichieS]

Didn't the Italians ban foreign players at one point in the interests of improving their national team? Did it work?

 

[JimmyG2]

Didn't the Italians ban foreign players at one point in the interests of improving their national team? Did it work?

Yep, between 1968/80.
Doesn't appear to have. They won the European cup in 1968
and the World Cup in 1982, 2006.
In 2010 a foreign player cap was introduced(Non EU that is) In Seria A.

We haven't won anything at European/World level since 1966.
After we failed to qualify in 2008 idea gained traction here
and it resurfaces in Italy from time to time.
The Russians recently relaxed restrictions brought some time ago.

 

[ethanedwards]

Disagree with this completely I follow alot of youth football and imo the problem isnt foreigners as we have better players than most of the world and yet they are run better and have a better understanding of the game to out perform us.

The problem here is we revere the wrong players and are run by and dominated by people and players with out footballing intelligence

People Like Lampard(who is intelligent off the ball with his runs but fuck all) and Gerrard prove this they are called world class but for England the best they can do is get out of the group stage and win the first knock out game. Pretty pathetic tbh.

I have seen so many intelligent great little players shunned because at they end of they day, they don't catch the eye and are not match winners

At the end of the day what does it say when people talk of gerrard as a legend and just name two games to justify it. CL final and beating west ham

In England we need a change of culture not a change in rules. If a player is playing for a PL team he should be better than a player who is playing in a sub standard league. Bayern and Dortmund domination with Barca and Madrid is helping their team be better. However would we beat Spain minus those teams and Germany minus Bayern and Dortmund. I dont think they would.

Is that you Glenn

 

[DFF]

Stop favouring brick shithouses over skillful players at youth level.

The amount of rugby players (some of them playing for England youth rugby) i encountered at County level was a joke. Space Jam looking motherfuckers they were, and I was no small kid either. Of course the skillful players were overpowered and the England youth rugby players never actually made it in rugby or football. So it was lose-lose.

If Messi grew up in our country he'd be pushing trolleys around a car park.

 

[brasil_spur]

Also england stop need to picking names and start picking teams that is the reason why we may not make the World Cup because no other country would blame everything except the players themselves(Gerrard, Lampard and etc.). I mean we are also saying our supposedly world class players dont have enough world class players around them lol, which is funny because I can only name one world class player in the whole WCQ group for the other teams(Lewandoski)

Whilst your post was very good overall, this bit is stand-out the most important in my opinion.

England has been picking the 'best' players for too long now, and not the BEST TEAM.

Trying to accomodate Gerrard and Lampard in a 4-4-2 formation is ridiculous, it could only have ever been one or the other.

And whilst we're on the subject of formations, it's clear that 4-3-3 in whatever exact form you prefer is the way the top teams in the world are playing right now. So for England this means developing players that fit that formation.

For example Aaron Lennon won't ever be a great player in that formation, whereas Townsend could be.

Rooney also struggles in that formation as he is neither an effective wide man nor a loan striker. He could potentially fill the central AM role - but then i'm not sure that's where his strength as a player lies - but he could adapt to that role if he wanted.

 

[OmarsComing]

He isnt world class and then would you call PEA and Mkhitaryan world class because they are ahead of him but yet arent considered world class

Jovetic definitely world class.

 

[beats1]

Jovetic definitely world class.

I disagree my definition of world class is one of the best in the world or among them and he isnt there yet imo but he will be possibly this season or next. Its like calling Lamela world class who was very successful at Roma he is going to be but not yet

 

[OmarsComing]

I disagree my definition of world class is one of the best in the world or among them and he isnt there yet imo but he will be possibly this season or next. Its like calling Lamela world class who was very successful at Roma he is going to be but not yet

Jovetic is easily world class. He was doing stuff vs England that no one else could do and he was imo the best player on the pitch.

 

[beats1]

Jovetic is easily world class. He was doing stuff vs England that no one else could do and he was imo the best player on the pitch.

You have to remember this is England we are talking about, Yarmalenko was doing stuff they cant do, shit even some of our U21's would put this england team to shame in terms of skill and creativity

 

[Mullers]

Spanish and German players have better technical skills than English players and their prices are much more reasonable. Like you've said England haven't had hardly any success down the years, stopping foreign talent won't help England, it will make England worse. They well be stuck with NRC, Andy Carroll, Downing, etc etc.

 

[Geyzer Soze]

There already is, isn't there? A certain number of players in the squad have to be "home grown" already, no? So there's already quotas the question must be about ratios

 

[Spursidol]

There already is, isn't there? A certain number of players in the squad have to be "home grown" already, no? So there's already quotas the question must be about ratios

Not quite.

Arsenal for example are famous for bringing overseas players into their academy at an early enough age such that they qualify as being 'home grown' even though the players wiould never want to play foir England.

Probably 80% of Spurs players in the academy would qualify to play foir England.

 

[Spursidol]

Spanish and German players have better technical skills than English players and their prices are much more reasonable. Like you've said England haven't had hardly any success down the years, stopping foreign talent won't help England, it will make England worse. They well be stuck with NRC, Andy Carroll, Downing, etc etc.

Historically very true.

Some of the best English academies, including Spurs, are now starting to churn out technically very good players - but it will take quite a few years for that change to really take effect at England level as I guess each academy will be licky to develop a top class player more than one per year and often not that frequently.

 

[mill]

I think Glenn Hoddle should stick to what he does best. Playing football in the 1980's.

You're better than that. Hoddle talks more sense than half the retarded English managers with their narrow minded views 'we didn't do that in my day' is the attitude most take.

Pleat's a great example, heard him in an interview dismissing the need for 2 holding mids yet went on to say he played hodge as a defensive wunger as he doesn't believe you can play 2 offensive wingers, er think about it pleaty.......

Disappointed in you bc