Player Watch Player Watch: Yves Bissouma

[YB123]

The SMS dream lives on.

I think we get the message....

 

[mil1lion]

He's good but I like the protection we get from Bentancur and Skipp. I would rather a more box to box type who gets forward like Hojbjerg with more end product.

 

[mil1lion]

Villa could potentially have a midfield of:

Coutinho
Kamara/McGinn----------------Bissouma
​

That's on par with ours.

They'll be a threat next season if Gerrard can get the best out of them.

They will be way below us

 

[Darth Vega]

Villa could potentially have a midfield of:

Coutinho
Kamara/McGinn----------------Bissouma
​

That's on par with ours.

They'll be a threat next season if Gerrard can get the best out of them.

This strikes me as an Everton situation where everyone admires their transfers from a distance but they're shit year in year out.

 

[Aphex]

He's good but I like the protection we get from Bentancur and Skipp. I would rather a more box to box type who gets forward like Hojbjerg with more end product.

I'm not sure goal scoring from CM is so important in Conte's system. The three attackers we have carry enough goal threat, plus goals should also come from the wing backs. I think we actually need a passer in there a la Jorginho who can break the press with incisive passing from deep, to play in our wing backs into space to quick counter attacks and transitions.

Obviously goals from CM is always welcome but maybe it's not high on the priority list for the attributes in the CM we are looking to bring in

 

[chrisd2k]

I'm not sure goal scoring from CM is so important in Conte's system. The three attackers we have carry enough goal threat, plus goals should also come from the wing backs. I think we actually need a passer in there a la Jorginho who can break the press with incisive passing from deep, to play in our wing backs into space to quick counter attacks and transitions.

Obviously goals from CM is always welcome but maybe it's not high on the priority list for the attributes in the CM we are looking to bring in

Yep it's not. Unless going with three in midfield which is what I thought he would do from the start but with Skipp getting injured I don't think he has the personnel.

A playmaker who is positionally aware seems to be the choice so I can get us not wanting YB even though I'm a big fan

 

[hughy]

Villa could potentially have a midfield of:

Coutinho
Kamara/McGinn----------------Bissouma
​

That's on par with ours.

They'll be a threat next season if Gerrard can get the best out of them.

Well it's not is it, because you've added a hypothetical target to their midfield and not a hypothetical target to ours. Chuck someone like SMS in to our midfield and all of a sudden ours looks a lot better.

 

[synththfc]

I'm not sure goal scoring from CM is so important in Conte's system. The three attackers we have carry enough goal threat, plus goals should also come from the wing backs. I think we actually need a passer in there a la Jorginho who can break the press with incisive passing from deep, to play in our wing backs into space to quick counter attacks and transitions.

Obviously goals from CM is always welcome but maybe it's not high on the priority list for the attributes in the CM we are looking to bring in

it’s going to take our fans a lot of time to adjust to the fact that in a conte pivot (not 3 man CM) the CMs do NOT score or create goals as a primary function. Those functions come from the wingbacks specifically, sort of like in LFC’s system. anyone who thinks conte will play eriksen in a 2 man CM is out of their damn mind - eriksen will play in games where we switch to a 3 man midfield or provide cover for son and kulusevski

 

[Freddie]

This strikes me as an Everton situation where everyone admires their transfers from a distance but they're shit year in year out.

Who admires Everton's transfers?! They've made costly mistake after costly mistake, and on the whole we could all see them coming.

 

[Guntz]

Well it's not is it, because you've added a hypothetical target to their midfield and not a hypothetical target to ours. Chuck someone like SMS in to our midfield and all of a sudden ours looks a lot better.

I said potentially mate.

Bissouma is a real reported target for Villa and we haven't even been linked to SMS.

 

[Darth Vega]

Who admires Everton's transfers?! They've made costly mistake after costly mistake, and on the whole we could all see them coming.

Everton have had many windows in recent years where the general consensus was that they "won". It happens every year; there are loads of exotic sounding players that look good on YouTube whom people pretend to have watched, and then they end up at the likes of Leicester, Everton and Southampton and a bunch of fans get upset. Last year's big ones were Patson Daka (who's done fuck all) and Soumare (who Leicester want to sell after 12 months), others in recent years include Jordy Clasie, Coutinho, James Rodriguez - the list goes on.

 

[mil1lion]

I'm not sure goal scoring from CM is so important in Conte's system. The three attackers we have carry enough goal threat, plus goals should also come from the wing backs. I think we actually need a passer in there a la Jorginho who can break the press with incisive passing from deep, to play in our wing backs into space to quick counter attacks and transitions.

Obviously goals from CM is always welcome but maybe it's not high on the priority list for the attributes in the CM we are looking to bring in

Assists is more what I'm thinking. Hojbjerg gets into some great positions but has been lacking with his final ball. I think Bentancur is more the Jorginho of our team anyway, the presser tends to be more box to box. I would love a Gerrard type to complete the midfield. Someone who gets a foot in but technical in the final 3rd. Gazza was so special at that because aside from his obvious talent with the ball he was fierce in the tackle too.

 

[mil1lion]

This strikes me as an Everton situation where everyone admires their transfers from a distance but they're shit year in year out.

Everyone was raving about Leicester last summer too

 

[Trix]

Am I the only one not that bothered by him?

No you aren't. He's a good player but it's a position where there are an awful lot of alternatives. All depends on what Conte wants specifically skillset wise from whoever we bring in for that position.

I'm sure whomever we bring in there will be a number of CM's we've been linked with that we'll see "missed the boat" posts about before too long. Even more so now everyone knows we have money to spend.

 

[Tarricko]

He's good but I like the protection we get from Bentancur and Skipp. I would rather a more box to box type who gets forward like Hojbjerg with more end product.

I had Bissouma pegged as more of a box to box player anyway. He's always up and down. Not a big goal scorer but he really covers ground end to end - he doesn't just sit and protect the back four.

 

[mil1lion]

I had Bissouma pegged as more of a box to box player anyway. He's always up and down. Not a big goal scorer but he really covers ground end to end - he doesn't just sit and protect the back four.

Only really watched him properly against us where he largely sat in. That might have been as his job was to stop Kane though. He's never looked that good with final ball in the bits I've seen of him. Tidy passer but not sure he offers much different to Bentancur. I think McKennie is more likely and sounds cheaper. He seems more the dynamic type that we lack in central midfield.

 

[zonbon32]

I had Bissouma pegged

A very 21st century punishment

 

[bobbof]

A shame, I think Bissouma would have been brilliant for us. Would rather have him than Phillips, he has impressed me every single time I’ve watched him. Understandable if we are unsure about his legal troubles, though.

 

[Nick-TopSpursMan]

After Rice he is basically the best PL CM outside of the top 4 teams and would probably get in every top 4 side too.

Followed by Neves who’s also an excellent CM.

In PL terms and considering our formation (2 defensively strong and mobile CMs), those 3 are the best CMs we could go for by a country mile.

Guimaraes will join that list as he continues to adapt to the PL.

 

[Freddie]

Everton have had many windows in recent years where the general consensus was that they "won". It happens every year; there are loads of exotic sounding players that look good on YouTube whom people pretend to have watched, and then they end up at the likes of Leicester, Everton and Southampton and a bunch of fans get upset. Last year's big ones were Patson Daka (who's done fuck all) and Soumare (who Leicester want to sell after 12 months), others in recent years include Jordy Clasie, Coutinho, James Rodriguez - the list goes on.

I was referring specifically to Everton though. I always thought James Rodriguez was a busted flush. Guys like him and Coutinho will always have flashes but then lose interest at that kind of level. They've spent massive money on guys like Sigurdsson, Schneiderlin, Walcott, Iwobi, Keane, Doucoure, Delph, Moise Kean, Gbamin, Mina, Klaassen, Tosun. All over 20 million I think. I'd say Richarlison is the single big one they got right. Moise Kean was the only one I wanted us to get at the time. They signed Klaassen, Rooney and Siggy in the same window and people claimed they had an amazing window...they all play in the same position! They're a shit show of a club with worse leadership than Man Utd. Our track record is quite poor but way better than theirs.

But yeah, Bissouma would have been good but I'm suspicious as to why the fee is apparently so much lower than they demanded for Ben White...